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Naaah, there's no liberal/Rat party bias in the press.

SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
edited March 2020 in Tug Tavern
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-10/biden-pushes-back-in-confrontation-over-guns

For some odd reason this story omits a number of relevant facts.

Biden has proposed a new "assault weapons" ban. Biden just announced that Beto, a person who has publicly stated that he wants to confiscate guns, will be his point person on gun issues.

Far from being "full of shit" the guy who questioned Biden has a very legitimate point and Biden should be pressed to answer for it instead of being excused for being an asshole. And it's Joe who doesn't have his facts straight and is lying. He claims the "AR-14" is a machine gun and that they are already illegal. This guys don't even know the weapons they want to ban.
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  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Huh, this interaction makes me like Biden a lot more. Maybe there's something to this whole "decorum is overrated" movement.

    For some reason I get the feeling you'd be swooning if Trump had told a liberal provocateur the same thing.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    Huh, this interaction makes me like Biden a lot more. Maybe there's something to this whole "decorum is overrated" movement.

    For some reason I get the feeling you'd be swooning if Trump had told a liberal provocateur the same thing.

    Biden, gets his facts wrong and lies about his stated position on assault weapons. Yeah, I can see why you loved it.
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  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    edited March 2020
    SFGbob said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    Huh, this interaction makes me like Biden a lot more. Maybe there's something to this whole "decorum is overrated" movement.

    For some reason I get the feeling you'd be swooning if Trump had told a liberal provocateur the same thing.

    Biden, gets his facts wrong and lies about his stated position on assault weapons. Yeah, I can see why you loved it.
    "You are actively trying to end our Second Amendment right and take away our guns,"

    I don't see any statement from Biden that suggests that he's going to repeal the 2nd Amendment or otherwise confiscate guns that are currently owned by private citizens. Feel to free to point me in the right direction if he did in fact say that.

    Edit: just saw the video above. I won't run away from this and I'll happily concede that point to you. Whether Biden has it as a platform item or not, he has in fact suggested that he could confiscate assault rifles from private citizens.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    Biden lied about his position when confronted with the facts. He then insulted the person who correctly cited back to him his record and then threaten the person with physical violence.


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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    SFGbob said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    Huh, this interaction makes me like Biden a lot more. Maybe there's something to this whole "decorum is overrated" movement.

    For some reason I get the feeling you'd be swooning if Trump had told a liberal provocateur the same thing.

    Biden, gets his facts wrong and lies about his stated position on assault weapons. Yeah, I can see why you loved it.
    "You are actively trying to end our Second Amendment right and take away our guns,"

    I don't see any statement from Biden that suggests that he's going to repeal the 2nd Amendment or otherwise confiscate guns that are currently owned by private citizens. Feel to free to point me in the right direction if he did in fact say that.

    Edit: just saw the video above. I won't run away from this and I'll happily concede that point to you. Whether Biden has it as a platform item or not, he has in fact suggested that he could confiscate assault rifles from private citizens.
    And with that comment you just elevated yourself about 95% of all other liberals.

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  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    SFGbob said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    SFGbob said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    Huh, this interaction makes me like Biden a lot more. Maybe there's something to this whole "decorum is overrated" movement.

    For some reason I get the feeling you'd be swooning if Trump had told a liberal provocateur the same thing.

    Biden, gets his facts wrong and lies about his stated position on assault weapons. Yeah, I can see why you loved it.
    "You are actively trying to end our Second Amendment right and take away our guns,"

    I don't see any statement from Biden that suggests that he's going to repeal the 2nd Amendment or otherwise confiscate guns that are currently owned by private citizens. Feel to free to point me in the right direction if he did in fact say that.

    Edit: just saw the video above. I won't run away from this and I'll happily concede that point to you. Whether Biden has it as a platform item or not, he has in fact suggested that he could confiscate assault rifles from private citizens.
    And with that comment you just elevated yourself about 95% of all other liberals.

    I appreciate the sentiment, though not the label.
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  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Pulse check for the Tug: would you repeal the 1986 assault rifle ban?

    Personally I'm in favor of the ban, but certainly wouldn't support any measure (like Biden suggested to Cooper) that would entail confiscating existing weapons from citizens that were grandfathered in.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 109,604 Founders Club
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    Huh, this interaction makes me like Biden a lot more. Maybe there's something to this whole "decorum is overrated" movement.

    For some reason I get the feeling you'd be swooning if Trump had told a liberal provocateur the same thing.

    Twitter comments were similar. About time Democrats fought back!

    My contention has always been that most Americans prefer a fight.

    Joe has a lot of support and likes to be the tough guy. He would be formidable if he isnt suffering from dementia

    The Democrats complain about Trump because he's effective.
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  • HustlinOwlHustlinOwl Member Posts: 953
    Biden doesn't know the trigger pull weight and rifling pattern inside the gun so he doesn't know shit about the guns he's talking about. Great defense Bob.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    HustlinOwl said:

    Biden doesn't know the trigger pull weight and rifling pattern inside the gun so he doesn't know shit about the guns he's talking about. Great defense Bob.

    Who do you pretend that strawman is when you fuck it in the ass Owl?

    Biden appears to not know his stated position on assault weapons that's listed on his own fucking campaign website nor does he seem to recall what he said to CNN just a few months ago.

    Work the balls Owl, work the ball. Btw, good to see you come back here after you were exposed for lying out your ass yesterday.
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  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,971 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    Biden lied about his position when confronted with the facts. He then insulted the person who correctly cited back to him his record and then threaten the person with physical violence.


    The media went absolutely apeshit when Trump said something at a rally about a heckler deserved to get punched or something like that. The media is perfectly fine with Dementia Joe threatening everyone with physical violence who has the audacity to question his positions. Scratch leftists find fascists.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    edited March 2020
    DuckHHunterisafag said:

    SFGbob said:

    Biden lied about his position when confronted with the facts. He then insulted the person who correctly cited back to him his record and then threaten the person with physical violence.


    The media went absolutely apeshit when Trump said something at a rally about a heckler deserved to get punched or something like that. The media is perfectly fine with Dementia Joe threatening everyone with physical violence who has the audacity to question his positions. Scratch leftists find fascists.
    You'll notice that the media had no problem with the fact that Joe was lying about his position on guns and the Union guy had his facts correct. In fact I've seen media types on Twitter blowing Joe saying he went toe to toe and fact to fact with the Union guy. Absolute bullshit.


    Trump attacks the media and the media loses it and claims he is a dictator who is threaten our political norms. Joe attacks a voter and threatens to slap him and the MSM praises Joe.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 109,604 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    DuckHHunterisafag said:

    SFGbob said:

    Biden lied about his position when confronted with the facts. He then insulted the person who correctly cited back to him his record and then threaten the person with physical violence.


    The media went absolutely apeshit when Trump said something at a rally about a heckler deserved to get punched or something like that. The media is perfectly fine with Dementia Joe threatening everyone with physical violence who has the audacity to question his positions. Scratch leftists find fascists.
    You'll notice that the media had no problem with the fact that Joe was lying about his position on guns and the Union guy had his facts correct. In fact I've seen media types on Twitter blowing Joe saying he went toe to toe and fact to fact with the Union guy. Absolute bullshit.


    Trump attacks the media and the media loses it and claims he is a dictator who is threaten our political norms. Joe attacks a voter and threatens to slap him and the MSM praises Joe.
    It's the homecourt advantage

    But visitors still win games when the home team sucks
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    RaceBannon said:

    SFGbob said:

    DuckHHunterisafag said:

    SFGbob said:

    Biden lied about his position when confronted with the facts. He then insulted the person who correctly cited back to him his record and then threaten the person with physical violence.


    The media went absolutely apeshit when Trump said something at a rally about a heckler deserved to get punched or something like that. The media is perfectly fine with Dementia Joe threatening everyone with physical violence who has the audacity to question his positions. Scratch leftists find fascists.
    You'll notice that the media had no problem with the fact that Joe was lying about his position on guns and the Union guy had his facts correct. In fact I've seen media types on Twitter blowing Joe saying he went toe to toe and fact to fact with the Union guy. Absolute bullshit.


    Trump attacks the media and the media loses it and claims he is a dictator who is threaten our political norms. Joe attacks a voter and threatens to slap him and the MSM praises Joe.
    It's the homecourt advantage

    But visitors still win games when the home team sucks
    I believe there is some truth in the critique about all the media slobbering over Rat party candidates ultimately being bad for them when it comes to the General Election. They aren't used to being hit and having their assertions challenged.
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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,706 Founders Club
    edited March 2020
    Does the term "main stream" media even matter anymore? @RaceBannon talks about the decline of "shared experience" and nowhere is this more true than media. Fox kills CNN, MSNBC, etc in cable ratings. How many people watch the ABC, NBC and CBS nightly new anymore? Conservatives own talk radio. Trump has the 21st century twatter bully pulpit. If you're a right winger, it's very easy to get 100% of your news from conservative media. Same holds true if you're a lefty.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    YellowSnow said:

    Does the term "main stream" media even matter anymore? @RaceBannon talks about the decline of "shared experience" and nowhere is this more true than media. Fox kills CNN, MSNBC, etc in cable ratings. How many people watch the ABC, NBC and CBS nightly new anymore? Conservatives own talk radio. Trump has the 21st century twatter bully pulpit. If you're a right winger, it's very easy to get 100% of your news from conservative media. Same holds true if you're a lefty.

    The media that really hurts Republicans I believe is the pop culture/Hollywood. It hurts them with low info, low engagement voters. Plenty of people get all of the political "news" from SNL and the Daily Show and the late night TV shows.
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  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,448 Standard Supporter
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    Huh, this interaction makes me like Biden a lot more. Maybe there's something to this whole "decorum is overrated" movement.

    For some reason I get the feeling you'd be swooning if Trump had told a liberal provocateur the same thing.

    Why does it not surprise me that a rat thinks Biden is brilliant for getting it wrong.
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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,706 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Does the term "main stream" media even matter anymore? @RaceBannon talks about the decline of "shared experience" and nowhere is this more true than media. Fox kills CNN, MSNBC, etc in cable ratings. How many people watch the ABC, NBC and CBS nightly new anymore? Conservatives own talk radio. Trump has the 21st century twatter bully pulpit. If you're a right winger, it's very easy to get 100% of your news from conservative media. Same holds true if you're a lefty.

    The media that really hurts Republicans I believe is the pop culture/Hollywood. It hurts them with low info, low engagement voters. Plenty of people get all of the political "news" from SNL and the Daily Show and the late night TV shows.
    Pop culture didn't hurt Trump. It's why he's President.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    YellowSnow said:

    SFGbob said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Does the term "main stream" media even matter anymore? @RaceBannon talks about the decline of "shared experience" and nowhere is this more true than media. Fox kills CNN, MSNBC, etc in cable ratings. How many people watch the ABC, NBC and CBS nightly new anymore? Conservatives own talk radio. Trump has the 21st century twatter bully pulpit. If you're a right winger, it's very easy to get 100% of your news from conservative media. Same holds true if you're a lefty.

    The media that really hurts Republicans I believe is the pop culture/Hollywood. It hurts them with low info, low engagement voters. Plenty of people get all of the political "news" from SNL and the Daily Show and the late night TV shows.
    Pop culture didn't hurt Trump. It's why he's President.
    Yeah but Trump is a unicorn.
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