Serious question: Should Jen Cohen fire Mike Hopkins?
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wouldnt that be more of a 'hex?'tap1thur29weretaken said:
Once again, @Yousef_#1UberDriver, consequences in terms of tolls or the extent of the epidemic you have become on University of Washington Hardcore Husky website is aimed at increasing fear and panic among people cannot be calculated. You are very bad man.Yousef_#1UberDriver said:Jen Cohen should sodomize PurpleBaze with rusty hookah
Leader @DerekJohnson, I respect rule to not call for genocide, but I hope this Yousef contracts COVID-19, spends many weeks in hospital isolation and recovers after many painful days of treatment only to never drive car again. This curse I put upon him. -
No, give him one more yearGreenRiverGatorz said:
Chinned for getting this thought across mid-stroke.RoadDawg55 said:
I never said Fire Sark until 2012. Never said It about Pete. Hope is the last place coach with no icoming fercuits. He’s gotta go.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I think this bored goes nuts about firing. Some probably think Saban ought to be fired.
That said, a repeat of and he's gone
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No, give him one more yearI think it would be best to give Hop two more years, then view the body of work. (I voted for 1 more year). That would be 5 years.
I have some hope that he can do a better job, like he did when surprised everyone in his first year.
And maybe limit the one-and-done’s. With the exception of Stewart none of them have made uw a better team, just good recruiting rankings. -
No, give him one more year76 votes
48% fire him now
36% one more year
13% needs more time to clean up the program -
No, give him one more year
Standard response around here is fire this person fire that personDerekJohnson said:76 votes
48% fire him now
36% one more year
13% needs more time to clean up the program -
Yes, right now
And?Tequilla said:
Standard response around here is fire this person fire that personDerekJohnson said:76 votes
48% fire him now
36% one more year
13% needs more time to clean up the program -
No, give him one more year
EnlighteningTequilla said:
Standard response around here is fire this person fire that personDerekJohnson said:76 votes
48% fire him now
36% one more year
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No, give him one more yearThere’s absolutely no reason to fire Hop
Yes ... this year has been below what was expected ... took longer than desired for the light bulb to go on
The thing I look for in evaluating is whether the team has quit ... this team despite their flaws for large parts of the season never quit
Firing people isn’t something that should be arrived at lightly ... when it is it is usually warranted because of non-performance related behavior or there are large vendettas in play -
No, give him one more year
This is a good point. Romar had a few teams fold the tent on him. This team never quit. Close loss after close loss they always played hard and led in the second half in pretty much every game they played this year. They seem to be figuring some things out. Sweeping the desert is not easy. If Hop can coach next years team to an NIT then he is probably a pretty good coach. The question that remains is can he build a roster of solid four year players and develop those guys as they mature. Fire Dollar or Conroy and bring in a coach, young or old that can run an offense. Next years team will need an offensive identity that can get guys open looks at the bucket through ball movement and off ball movement. What we ran this year with actual talent will be a disaster with next years roster. Just my two cents. Coach stays.Tequilla said:There’s absolutely no reason to fire Hop
Yes ... this year has been below what was expected ... took longer than desired for the light bulb to go on
The thing I look for in evaluating is whether the team has quit ... this team despite their flaws for large parts of the season never quit
Firing people isn’t something that should be arrived at lightly ... when it is it is usually warranted because of non-performance related behavior or there are large vendettas in play -
Yes, right now
Doog legends or not, what coach in their right mind would bring in two guys that either played or coached for the prior coach who got run out of town?theknowledge said:
This is a good point. Romar had a few teams fold the tent on him. This team never quit. Close loss after close loss they always played hard and led in the second half in pretty much every game they played this year. They seem to be figuring some things out. Sweeping the desert is not easy. If Hop can coach next years team to an NIT then he is probably a pretty good coach. The question that remains is can he build a roster of solid four year players and develop those guys as they mature. Fire Dollar or Conroy and bring in a coach, young or old that can run an offense. Next years team will need an offensive identity that can get guys open looks at the bucket through ball movement and off ball movement. What we ran this year with actual talent will be a disaster with next years roster. Just my two cents. Coach stays.Tequilla said:There’s absolutely no reason to fire Hop
Yes ... this year has been below what was expected ... took longer than desired for the light bulb to go on
The thing I look for in evaluating is whether the team has quit ... this team despite their flaws for large parts of the season never quit
Firing people isn’t something that should be arrived at lightly ... when it is it is usually warranted because of non-performance related behavior or there are large vendettas in play
Cameron Dollar hasn't seen the better side of basketball since he started eating pizza in Clarkston. And he hasn't stopped. Nom nom nom.
And no recruits this year?!? From a supposed local guy in Conroy? WTF???? He should be able to drive to Garfield, O'Dea and Beach and pull at least ONE D-1 caliber guy out of the lunchroom. If your 'local' hometown guy can't do that, then there's something more that is either being left unsaid or he's not well-liked with the local power brokers/high school coaches. Get your shit together or GTFO. Even Stan Empterman was asked to LEAVE and he's sure as fuck a bigger doog legend than Will fucking Conroy.
Don't even get me started on that lurch motherfucker Rice. He couldn't be Ken Bone's piss boy from an X and O standpoint. WTF does he bring to the table other than "look at me, I played with Grandmama and Stacy Augmon"? He should know how to cheat like a motherfucker and bring in talent with those roots. Instead Hop gets the one fucking Mormon from the Tarkanian tree.
Either Hop sweeps his staff and gets his own guys in there or he gets no more tim. Very simple. -
No, give him one more year
You better be fielding a top 68 team in year 4theknowledge said:
This is a good point. Romar had a few teams fold the tent on him. This team never quit. Close loss after close loss they always played hard and led in the second half in pretty much every game they played this year. They seem to be figuring some things out. Sweeping the desert is not easy. If Hop can coach next years team to an NIT then he is probably a pretty good coach. The question that remains is can he build a roster of solid four year players and develop those guys as they mature. Fire Dollar or Conroy and bring in a coach, young or old that can run an offense. Next years team will need an offensive identity that can get guys open looks at the bucket through ball movement and off ball movement. What we ran this year with actual talent will be a disaster with next years roster. Just my two cents. Coach stays.Tequilla said:There’s absolutely no reason to fire Hop
Yes ... this year has been below what was expected ... took longer than desired for the light bulb to go on
The thing I look for in evaluating is whether the team has quit ... this team despite their flaws for large parts of the season never quit
Firing people isn’t something that should be arrived at lightly ... when it is it is usually warranted because of non-performance related behavior or there are large vendettas in play -
Yes, right now
53rd in kenpom baby.Doogles said:
You better be fielding a top 68 team in year 4theknowledge said:
This is a good point. Romar had a few teams fold the tent on him. This team never quit. Close loss after close loss they always played hard and led in the second half in pretty much every game they played this year. They seem to be figuring some things out. Sweeping the desert is not easy. If Hop can coach next years team to an NIT then he is probably a pretty good coach. The question that remains is can he build a roster of solid four year players and develop those guys as they mature. Fire Dollar or Conroy and bring in a coach, young or old that can run an offense. Next years team will need an offensive identity that can get guys open looks at the bucket through ball movement and off ball movement. What we ran this year with actual talent will be a disaster with next years roster. Just my two cents. Coach stays.Tequilla said:There’s absolutely no reason to fire Hop
Yes ... this year has been below what was expected ... took longer than desired for the light bulb to go on
The thing I look for in evaluating is whether the team has quit ... this team despite their flaws for large parts of the season never quit
Firing people isn’t something that should be arrived at lightly ... when it is it is usually warranted because of non-performance related behavior or there are large vendettas in play -
Yes, right nowGiving him one more year is the doogiest shit ever. Who on the roster is going to lead the charge to the NCAA tournament? Did everyone forget we currently have zero incoming recruits?
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Last place in the conference is no reason to fire a coach? Holy fuck. That is with probably the best or 2nd best big man in the conference and a probable top 5 player. He’s not coming back either.Tequilla said:There’s absolutely no reason to fire Hop
Yes ... this year has been below what was expected ... took longer than desired for the light bulb to go on
The thing I look for in evaluating is whether the team has quit ... this team despite their flaws for large parts of the season never quit
Firing people isn’t something that should be arrived at lightly ... when it is it is usually warranted because of non-performance related behavior or there are large vendettas in play
Zero fucking recruits! Naz, Battle, and Tsohonis are the best players on the team next year. Maybe Bey. None of those guys should be any better than the third, or probably 4th-6th best players on a good (8 seed or above) team. A front court of Nate Roberts, Wright, and BPJ. Not one had a chance of averaging 10 a game. They won’t get close to .500 in Pac 12.
You think Stevenson, Elleby (if he even returns), Noah Williams, and Emmett Matthews might help. Get 3 of those and maybe we are a bubble team next year. We are four players away from being decent. I’m sorry, but next year’s front court is the worst in the conference. The PG play is bottom third.
I remember when Romar and NWG beat a pretty good Utah team late in the year a couple years back.
Teams don’t quit every single game, but that shouldn’t be a minimum requirement. It should be expected that they play hard. We are delaying the inevitable. We will suck next year and I’ll be surprised if we are decent at all the next year either. It’s over. -
Yes, right now
Roy Williams has titles and has won everywhere he went. If Hop has three or four good years then a blunder, sure, cut him a break. He doesn’t. He has zero recruits. It’s ridiculous that anyone with standards doesn’t want him door ass out as soon as possible.huskyhooligan said:
The poont is he is just trying to do Syracuse at UW. Stringent to the 2-3. It was eye opening how much the team responded to switching to zone, and full court pressure, and at that point one could see the talent come forward. Also Syracuse is a national hoops brand, with actual history and accomplishments, with the benefit of being in the ACC (currently) where a 9th or 10th place finish can still lead to a tourney appearance. BTW Syracuse is a .500 conference team the last 5 years.RoadDawg55 said:
A continuation of Syracuse? They aren’t ever getting last in the conference.huskyhooligan said:Waffled between yes and no. Question is, is Hop going to be just a continuation of Syracuse, or adapt.
Should Roy Williams be fired for finishing last in the ACC this year?
Did Coach K stay stringent to the coaching philosophy of Bob Knight? Roy Williams to Dean Smith? Is Bill Self doing everything Larry Brown did? Or did they take that, put their own spin on things, and adapt to new situations. My poont is I don't see Hop adapting, just being a zealot to a system, that though successful at Syracuse, isn't a great fit for the talent on his roster. -
No, he needs several more years to clean up the programPeople forget that it took John Wooden 15 years to win his first natty doing it the right way. They forget that.
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This is some of the finest alt handle work since @Octavian’s Five Reasons.coronabruin said:People forget that it took John Wooden 15 years to win his first natty doing it the right way. They forget that.
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Yes, right nowThe Venn diagram of Hop doogs and Sark doogs is a fucking circle.
If Hop has any recruits we’d be hearing how we can’t fire him because we’d lose them. But he has nada. Tough times for doog excuses. -
Yes, right now
Hurtful. I throw dirt on your head!Doog_de_Jour said:
This is some of the finest alt handle work since @Octavian’s Five Reasons.coronabruin said:People forget that it took John Wooden 15 years to win his first natty doing it the right way. They forget that.
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Yes, right now
Unless one of the Nordstrom Bros. do their best Sam Gilbert and step up with some cups of cash, ain't happening any time soon in Montlake.coronabruin said:People forget that it took John Wooden 15 years to win his first natty doing it the right way. They forget that.
Ain't happening any time ever with Hop in charge.
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Yes, right now
Ding! Diffferet ka that one basketball, you only need 7-8 good players to succeed. Ideally, you want more but tons of chmamoioonshipn caliber teams went 7 deep. You get above 9 and emeiatry problems start becoming more more likely.ThomasFremont said:The Venn diagram of Hop doogs and Sark doogs is a fucking circle.
If Hop has any recruits we’d be hearing how we can’t fire him because we’d lose them. But he has nada. Tough times for doog excuses.
If after next year, Hoo signs Banchero, Nowell, and another legit recruit (Nolan Hickman), he could have a very good team. Perfect combo of a one and done, but not being completely dependent on a one and one.
Those three, maybe another recruit, and Battle, Bey, Tshonois, and of you can get anything out of Roberts should have a PAC 12 contender. I just have zero faith to get it down.
You know what else might help that team. Getting a good recruit or two this year where he has completely shut the bed.! -
Yes, right now
YRYKRoadDawg55 said:
Ding! Diffferet ka that one basketball, you only need 7-8 good players to succeed. Ideally, you want more but tons of chmamoioonshipn caliber teams went 7 deep. You get above 9 and emeiatry problems start becoming more more likely.ThomasFremont said:The Venn diagram of Hop doogs and Sark doogs is a fucking circle.
If Hop has any recruits we’d be hearing how we can’t fire him because we’d lose them. But he has nada. Tough times for doog excuses.
If after next year, Hoo signs Banchero, Nowell, and another legit recruit (Nolan Hickman), he could have a very good team. Perfect combo of a one and done, but not being completely dependent on a one and one.
Those three, maybe another recruit, and Battle, Bey, Tshonois, and of you can get anything out of Roberts should have a PAC 12 contender. I just have zero faith to get it down.
You know what else might help that team. Getting a good recruit or two this year where he has completely shut the bed.!
Butt still, when did @FireCohen hack your account?
Worried about you! -
Free pubdnc said:
YRYKRoadDawg55 said:
Ding! Diffferet ka that one basketball, you only need 7-8 good players to succeed. Ideally, you want more but tons of chmamoioonshipn caliber teams went 7 deep. You get above 9 and emeiatry problems start becoming more more likely.ThomasFremont said:The Venn diagram of Hop doogs and Sark doogs is a fucking circle.
If Hop has any recruits we’d be hearing how we can’t fire him because we’d lose them. But he has nada. Tough times for doog excuses.
If after next year, Hoo signs Banchero, Nowell, and another legit recruit (Nolan Hickman), he could have a very good team. Perfect combo of a one and done, but not being completely dependent on a one and one.
Those three, maybe another recruit, and Battle, Bey, Tshonois, and of you can get anything out of Roberts should have a PAC 12 contender. I just have zero faith to get it down.
You know what else might help that team. Getting a good recruit or two this year where he has completely shut the bed.!
Butt still, when did @FireCohen hack your account?
Worried about you! -
Yes, right now
That would at least be a reason, albeit a dumb one, to keep him. The zero recruits is the nail in the coffin. That will set us back years.ThomasFremont said:The Venn diagram of Hop doogs and Sark doogs is a fucking circle.
If Hop has any recruits we’d be hearing how we can’t fire him because we’d lose them. But he has nada. Tough times for doog excuses. -
Yes, right nowHaha wtf happened, I do not know.
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No, he needs several more years to clean up the programExtend Hop Now!
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Yes, right now
Who could have saw this coming?RoadDawg55 said:
This. We are going to suck next year and it will be a real topic that even doogs will consider. Might as well just do it now.whlinder said:If you think you’re going to have to fire them eventually, fire them now
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No, give him one more yearHis buyout this year is something like $11.6 million. It ain't happening in a pandemic / AD deficit year.
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Yes, right nowDon't fire him, just demote him to a defensive assistant coach...then hire a couple of names that can go get local and national talent.
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Yes, right now
You misspelled 'towel boy in the equipment room'.DawgsCanDance said:Don't fire him, just demote him to a defensive assistant coach...then hire a couple of names that can go get local and national talent.
