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  • DoogCourics
    DoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739
    Despite an overall performance that many considered disappointing for the Washington Huskies, nearly half the seven that did take part this past week in the 2020 NFL Scouting Combine made the All-Combine team.

    Center Nick Harris was a first-team pick, while receiver Aaron Fuller and tight end Hunter Bryant made honorable mention.

    "There's a good amount to be said about the players coaches tab to demonstrate each drill at the combine, and with the linemen, it was mainly Harris demoing drills for his group," NFL.com's Nick Shook said of the UW senior center. "He was an instant contributor at Washington and the reasons for his impact were easily seen on the field in Indianapolis. His footwork is excellent and his agility is top notch. Harris brings an element of power and explosiveness on the inside that very well could translate into a Pro Bowl center at the next level. Watching Harris run through drills was a treat, and while his 20 bench press reps are a slight concern and could contribute to a slide in the draft, his athleticism is difficult to overlook."

    Harris ran a 5.1 official 40, jumped 103 inches in the standing broad jump, 29.5 inches in the vertical jump, and racked up 20 reps at 225 pounds on the bench press.



    NFL.com's Chad Reuter was very complimentary of Fuller, who ran a 4.59 40, 7.14 in the 3-cone (L) drill, jumped 118 inches in the standing broad jump, and 34 inches in the vertical jump.

    "Fuller's lack of size (5-foot-11) and below-average 40 time (4.59) mean little to me," Reuter said. "The former Husky was the most natural hands-catcher in the first group of receivers. While not huge or extremely fast, his route-running was quick and reliable. I don't know how high Fuller will be drafted, but he'll likely still be waiting to go long after his quarterback (Jacob Eason) has heard his named called. Teams willing to overlook his measurables and rely more on his game tape and combine performance, however, should take a shot on his talent."



    Bryant, who received mixed analysis on the day he tested and worked out, made the All-Combine team nonetheless. "He didn't run as fast as I thought he would, but he's having a good field workout, the way he's moving around," NFL.com Analyst Daniel Jeremiah said at the time.

    NFL.com's Lance Zierlein compared Bryant to Jordan Reed, who played six years with the Washington Redskins.

    "He will get the matchup-tight-end moniker, but scouts feel like he's more of a big slot receiver in the pros," Zierlein said of Bryant, who decided to leave UW with a year of eligibility remaining. "He doesn't have ideal size or determination as a blocker, but he has sticky hands with the acceleration to work past linebackers and threaten seams. He's a straight-line mover who gets bogged down in and out of breaks. He has playmaking ability but needs linear routes that allow him to keep moving on all three levels. Bryant is a scheme-dependent pass-catcher with a higher ceiling, but lower floor and a history of knee injuries that will need clearance by NFL medical staffs."
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    Emoterman said:

    RealRhino said:

    For comparison, to see if this is a training room issue, past guys:

    Budda - 36%
    Ross - 96
    Dissly - 17
    BBK - 85
    Gaines - 40
    Gaskin - 31
    Kaleb - 84
    Jordan - 22
    Byron - 46
    Rapp - 32
    King Kevoo - 99
    Sample - 52

    Socha was here, right? Only have two guys approaching the low numbers of this year's crop; makes it seem like an anomaly.

    Wow, this seemed like the potential weakness in the argument that Socha sucks, but other than genetic freaks Ross, McGary, and King (I'm implicitly arguing that they'd score high with or without S&C), everyone except BBK barely average, and even including BBK's 85th %, the average percentile of the moldable clay is 40th; 34th plucking out self-motivating BBK.

    Again, what am I missing? That data set is even more damning, to my eyes.
    That is quite a caveat. Almost everyone in the NFL other than QBs are genetic freaks.

    Looking at the results as a whole without cherry picking to fit a narrative the results this year were significantly worse than recent classes.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Emoterman said:

    RealRhino said:

    For comparison, to see if this is a training room issue, past guys:

    Budda - 36%
    Ross - 96
    Dissly - 17
    BBK - 85
    Gaines - 40
    Gaskin - 31
    Kaleb - 84
    Jordan - 22
    Byron - 46
    Rapp - 32
    King Kevoo - 99
    Sample - 52

    Socha was here, right? Only have two guys approaching the low numbers of this year's crop; makes it seem like an anomaly.

    Wow, this seemed like the potential weakness in the argument that Socha sucks, but other than genetic freaks Ross, McGary, and King (I'm implicitly arguing that they'd score high with or without S&C), everyone except BBK barely average, and even including BBK's 85th %, the average percentile of the moldable clay is 40th; 34th plucking out self-motivating BBK.

    Again, what am I missing? That data set is even more damning, to my eyes.
    Wow, this seemed like the potential weakness in the argument that Socha is good, but other than guys coming off injury Dissly, Jordan, and Rapp (I'm implicitly arguing that they'd score low with or without a different S & C), everyone except Gaskin 35% or better, and even including MMFG 's 31%, the average percentile of the moldable clay is 63.2%

    Again, what am I missing? That data set is even more impressive, to my eyes.














    Cherry picking is bullshit.

    hth.
  • Emoterman
    Emoterman Member Posts: 3,333
    dnc said:

    Emoterman said:

    RealRhino said:

    For comparison, to see if this is a training room issue, past guys:

    Budda - 36%
    Ross - 96
    Dissly - 17
    BBK - 85
    Gaines - 40
    Gaskin - 31
    Kaleb - 84
    Jordan - 22
    Byron - 46
    Rapp - 32
    King Kevoo - 99
    Sample - 52

    Socha was here, right? Only have two guys approaching the low numbers of this year's crop; makes it seem like an anomaly.

    Wow, this seemed like the potential weakness in the argument that Socha sucks, but other than genetic freaks Ross, McGary, and King (I'm implicitly arguing that they'd score high with or without S&C), everyone except BBK barely average, and even including BBK's 85th %, the average percentile of the moldable clay is 40th; 34th plucking out self-motivating BBK.

    Again, what am I missing? That data set is even more damning, to my eyes.
    Wow, this seemed like the potential weakness in the argument that Socha is good, but other than guys coming off injury Dissly, Jordan, and Rapp (I'm implicitly arguing that they'd score low with or without a different S & C), everyone except Gaskin 35% or better, and even including MMFG 's 31%, the average percentile of the moldable clay is 63.2%

    Again, what am I missing? That data set is even more impressive, to my eyes.














    Cherry picking is bullshit.

    hth.
    You're absolutely right, I just wish I could find a cherry to pick out of this shitpie:

    Jacob Eason 16.7 percentile
    Salvon Ahmed 27.1 percentile
    Hunter Bryant 32.3 percentile
    Aaron Fuller 11.4 percentile
    Trey Adams 2.4 percentile
    Nick Harris 31.2 percentile

    How long should graveyards be whistled past?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Emoterman said:

    dnc said:

    Emoterman said:

    RealRhino said:

    For comparison, to see if this is a training room issue, past guys:

    Budda - 36%
    Ross - 96
    Dissly - 17
    BBK - 85
    Gaines - 40
    Gaskin - 31
    Kaleb - 84
    Jordan - 22
    Byron - 46
    Rapp - 32
    King Kevoo - 99
    Sample - 52

    Socha was here, right? Only have two guys approaching the low numbers of this year's crop; makes it seem like an anomaly.

    Wow, this seemed like the potential weakness in the argument that Socha sucks, but other than genetic freaks Ross, McGary, and King (I'm implicitly arguing that they'd score high with or without S&C), everyone except BBK barely average, and even including BBK's 85th %, the average percentile of the moldable clay is 40th; 34th plucking out self-motivating BBK.

    Again, what am I missing? That data set is even more damning, to my eyes.
    Wow, this seemed like the potential weakness in the argument that Socha is good, but other than guys coming off injury Dissly, Jordan, and Rapp (I'm implicitly arguing that they'd score low with or without a different S & C), everyone except Gaskin 35% or better, and even including MMFG 's 31%, the average percentile of the moldable clay is 63.2%

    Again, what am I missing? That data set is even more impressive, to my eyes.














    Cherry picking is bullshit.

    hth.
    You're absolutely right, I just wish I could find a cherry to pick out of this shitpie:

    Jacob Eason 16.7 percentile
    Salvon Ahmed 27.1 percentile
    Hunter Bryant 32.3 percentile
    Aaron Fuller 11.4 percentile
    Trey Adams 2.4 percentile
    Nick Harris 31.2 percentile

    How long should graveyards be whistled past?
    Nobody's arguing this year's were good.

    The point is they haven't been bad before this year.

    Especially when you compare performances versus recruiting ranking.

    UW kids have consistently outperformed their ranking under Socha until this year with Ahmed, Bryant and Adams.

    You want to argue that's a trend, go for it. But don't misrepresent prior years to do it.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,768 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Emoterman said:

    dnc said:

    Emoterman said:

    RealRhino said:

    For comparison, to see if this is a training room issue, past guys:

    Budda - 36%
    Ross - 96
    Dissly - 17
    BBK - 85
    Gaines - 40
    Gaskin - 31
    Kaleb - 84
    Jordan - 22
    Byron - 46
    Rapp - 32
    King Kevoo - 99
    Sample - 52

    Socha was here, right? Only have two guys approaching the low numbers of this year's crop; makes it seem like an anomaly.

    Wow, this seemed like the potential weakness in the argument that Socha sucks, but other than genetic freaks Ross, McGary, and King (I'm implicitly arguing that they'd score high with or without S&C), everyone except BBK barely average, and even including BBK's 85th %, the average percentile of the moldable clay is 40th; 34th plucking out self-motivating BBK.

    Again, what am I missing? That data set is even more damning, to my eyes.
    Wow, this seemed like the potential weakness in the argument that Socha is good, but other than guys coming off injury Dissly, Jordan, and Rapp (I'm implicitly arguing that they'd score low with or without a different S & C), everyone except Gaskin 35% or better, and even including MMFG 's 31%, the average percentile of the moldable clay is 63.2%

    Again, what am I missing? That data set is even more impressive, to my eyes.














    Cherry picking is bullshit.

    hth.
    You're absolutely right, I just wish I could find a cherry to pick out of this shitpie:

    Jacob Eason 16.7 percentile
    Salvon Ahmed 27.1 percentile
    Hunter Bryant 32.3 percentile
    Aaron Fuller 11.4 percentile
    Trey Adams 2.4 percentile
    Nick Harris 31.2 percentile

    How long should graveyards be whistled past?
    Nobody's arguing this year's were good.

    The point is they haven't been bad before this year.

    Especially when you compare performances versus recruiting ranking.

    UW kids have consistently outperformed their ranking under Socha until this year with Ahmed, Bryant and Adams.

    You want to argue that's a trend, go for it. But don't misrepresent prior years to do it.
    The seniors weren't leaders. They were good role players on a conference championship team.

    I think that's all there is to it.
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    There was a shortage in the rhino cum market for many teams for the last few years.

    Look at bloomgren who left Stanford at the beginning of the shortage. He knew what time it was and made a pre-emptive move and look where they are now. A passing team.

    UW testing poorly and rationalizations are given that they are "coached well" and got recognition from all star selections - as being reasons that may suggest it's not a big deal.

    I don't know man. Testing this year is really bad relatively.

    An anomaly? Maybe

    All I know is that it's stupid and not acceptable. I'm stopping right there. Something is fucked up.
  • DoogDawg
    DoogDawg Member Posts: 129
    edited March 2020

    Top two issues I had with Petersen as well

    Will never understand why people love to take shots at Pete. All he did was lead us to the CFB, win two pac-12 titles and lead us to three new year six bowl games.
    Lost all three then quit like a pussy

    Never got a quarterback or an offense

    Left us with an assistant

    Fuck that guy for real
    I say this with the greatest respect: go die in a slow-burning fire.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,311 Founders Club




    NFL.com's Chad Reuter was very complimentary of Fuller, who ran a 4.59 40, 7.14 in the 3-cone (L) drill, jumped 118 inches in the standing broad jump, and 34 inches in the vertical jump.

    "Fuller's lack of size (5-foot-11) and below-average 40 time (4.59) mean little to me," Reuter said. "The former Husky was the most natural hands-catcher in the first group of receivers. While not huge or extremely fast, his route-running was quick and reliable. I don't know how high Fuller will be drafted, but he'll likely still be waiting to go long after his quarterback (Jacob Eason) has heard his named called. Teams willing to overlook his measurables and rely more on his game tape and combine performance, however, should take a shot on his talent."

    So the other receivers couldn't catch?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839




    NFL.com's Chad Reuter was very complimentary of Fuller, who ran a 4.59 40, 7.14 in the 3-cone (L) drill, jumped 118 inches in the standing broad jump, and 34 inches in the vertical jump.

    "Fuller's lack of size (5-foot-11) and below-average 40 time (4.59) mean little to me," Reuter said. "The former Husky was the most natural hands-catcher in the first group of receivers. While not huge or extremely fast, his route-running was quick and reliable. I don't know how high Fuller will be drafted, but he'll likely still be waiting to go long after his quarterback (Jacob Eason) has heard his named called. Teams willing to overlook his measurables and rely more on his game tape and combine performance, however, should take a shot on his talent."

    So the other receivers couldn't catch?
    Fuller caught everything he touched his entire career except the Cal and Stanford games this year when he inexplicably couldn't catch the Corona Virus from a Chinese ladyboy. Yet for some reason Eason Kept. Throwing. Him. The. Ball. He must have had 20 targets versus Stanford.

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