FINALLY! Trump To Withhold Federal Funding From Sanctuary Cities

TurdBomber said:

dnc said:

SFGbob said:

dnc said:

TurdBomber said:

Hilarious that the dumb fucking Dems are making states rights arguments, after spending the last 40 years shitting all over any Red State that tried to assert them.

Hypocrisy anyone?

Not hilarious that conservatives are suddenly against states rights after spending the last 160 years supporting them?

We're living in the upside down.

When Rat party members stood in the school house doorway I didn't support it. Now when they thumb their nose at Federal law, I don't support it. State's have no authority over immigration issues. That's a section of the law left solely to the Federal government. Are some people above the law? State's Right never involved areas of the law that are solely the purview of Federal Government.

I don't disagree.

I also think when the states won't support the rights of "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" for certain individuals in their purvey then it's the federal governments right (and responsibility) to step in and enforce those rights.

Which pretty much ends the vast majority of states rights issues historically.

@dnc, you're confusing the Constitution's language with the Declaration of Independence. Two vastly different documents. Two vastly different purposes.

C'mon @dnc. You're better than that.

The constitution is built on the foundation of the Declaration of Independence. They don’t exist independently but are forever intertwined.

dnc said:

TurdBomber said:

dnc said:

SFGbob said:

dnc said:

TurdBomber said:

Hilarious that the dumb fucking Dems are making states rights arguments, after spending the last 40 years shitting all over any Red State that tried to assert them.

Hypocrisy anyone?

Not hilarious that conservatives are suddenly against states rights after spending the last 160 years supporting them?

We're living in the upside down.

When Rat party members stood in the school house doorway I didn't support it. Now when they thumb their nose at Federal law, I don't support it. State's have no authority over immigration issues. That's a section of the law left solely to the Federal government. Are some people above the law? State's Right never involved areas of the law that are solely the purview of Federal Government.

I don't disagree.

I also think when the states won't support the rights of "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" for certain individuals in their purvey then it's the federal governments right (and responsibility) to step in and enforce those rights.

Which pretty much ends the vast majority of states rights issues historically.

@dnc, you're confusing the Constitution's language with the Declaration of Independence. Two vastly different documents. Two vastly different purposes.

C'mon @dnc. You're better than that.

The constitution is built on the foundation of the Declaration of Independence. They don’t exist independently but are forever intertwined.

Except for the Constitution being a source of binding law, and the Dec of Ind not. But aside from that.

MikeDamone said:

PurpleThrobber said:

RaceBannon said:

SFGbob said:

RaceBannon said:

I was never for State's Rights

That wasn't a conservative issue not that I am a conservative. It was a racist's issue.

Not everything is everybody does it equally

The people I supported back in the day who now support state's rights and illegals over citizens are hurting minorities and white workers the most. The very people the democrats claim to help.

And the people that Trump is helping.

You don't believe that a state should be able to set their own drinking age? How about gun laws? Should some states be able to allow concealed carry?

Should some states be allowed to ignore the 2nd amendment and take your guns?

Like I said the name state's rights is so associated with racists that it should be retired with Jim Crow

There are things legitimately left to the states.

K.I.S.S. Pretty well laid out right thur for y'all.

Anything in question, let the 9 homeys in robes figure it out.

Lol at 18 and 21. It’s funny and horrifying.

Mostly horrifying.

TurdBomber said:

dnc said:

TurdBomber said:

Hilarious that the dumb fucking Dems are making states rights arguments, after spending the last 40 years shitting all over any Red State that tried to assert them.

Hypocrisy anyone?

Not hilarious that conservatives are suddenly against states rights after spending the last 160 years supporting them?

We're living in the upside down.

Immigration is regulated at the federal level, chiefly under the rules established in 1952 with the passage of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986 was enacted to curb illegal immigration, denying welfare benefits to undocumented immigrants and strengthening sanctions against employers who hire them.

The U.S. Congress has control over all immigration-related regulations, while the White House is in charge of enforcing immigration laws.

Jurisdiction and the Supremacy Clause
The federal government's jurisdiction over immigration law has consistently been upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court, which has overruled attempts by state legislatures to single out immigrants. Additionally, the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution is generally interpreted to mean that federal laws trump state laws, except for certain matters constitutionally left to the states.


Sorry, you were saying?

You're entirely missing the point. Anyone who claims to uniformly champion states' right, or oppose them, is a fucking imbecile. The "hypocrisy" charge that gets thrown around is equally stupid. There are plenty of nuanced reasons to delineate when states' rights should supersede federal intervention, and when they shouldn't. Most reasonable people would agree that the federal government has domain over immigration issues. The far left doesn't think so. That makes them fucking idiots, but neither side is being hypocritical.

TurdBomber said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

TurdBomber said:

dnc said:

TurdBomber said:

Hilarious that the dumb fucking Dems are making states rights arguments, after spending the last 40 years shitting all over any Red State that tried to assert them.

Hypocrisy anyone?

Not hilarious that conservatives are suddenly against states rights after spending the last 160 years supporting them?

We're living in the upside down.

Immigration is regulated at the federal level, chiefly under the rules established in 1952 with the passage of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986 was enacted to curb illegal immigration, denying welfare benefits to undocumented immigrants and strengthening sanctions against employers who hire them.

The U.S. Congress has control over all immigration-related regulations, while the White House is in charge of enforcing immigration laws.

Jurisdiction and the Supremacy Clause
The federal government's jurisdiction over immigration law has consistently been upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court, which has overruled attempts by state legislatures to single out immigrants. Additionally, the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution is generally interpreted to mean that federal laws trump state laws, except for certain matters constitutionally left to the states.


Sorry, you were saying?

You're entirely missing the point. Anyone who claims to uniformly champion states' right, or oppose them, is a fucking imbecile. The "hypocrisy" charge that gets thrown around is equally stupid. There are plenty of nuanced reasons to delineate when states' rights should supersede federal intervention, and when they shouldn't. Most reasonable people would agree that the federal government has domain over immigration issues. The far left doesn't think so. That makes them fucking idiots, but neither side is being hypocritical.

Please avoid using words like "nuance." Please.

No

Generally speaking, it's the Left that likes a large, centrally planned government that collects high taxes and redistributes power and resources far & wide, while the Right "federalists" prefer a small central government that leaves as much as possible to the states. The constitution also states explicitly that those rights not delineated or delegated to the feds are "reserved to the people" of the various states. It's not a debatable point. It's the essence of the difference between the Left and Right at every level of government. I won't go through the laundry list of the CRA, Obamacare, Abortion Rights, or how the Commerce clause has been repeatedly invoked by the Left to regulate matters very local, such as gun laws.

So yes, it's ironic and hypocritical for the Left to suddenly tell the Feds to fuck off after decades of federal expansion. Sorry.

TurdBomber said:

Oh, and the Supreme Court agrees with me. So there's that, too.

Supreme Court is a racist institution therefore invalid