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FINALLY! Trump To Withhold Federal Funding From Sanctuary Cities

DJDuck
DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
edited March 2020 in Tug Tavern
The Hill reports:

President Trump on Thursday said his administration will begin withholding funding from self-described sanctuary cities after a federal court ruled last week that it could do so.

“As per recent Federal Court ruling, the Federal Government will be withholding funds from Sanctuary Cities,” Trump tweeted. “They should change their status and go non-Sanctuary. Do not protect criminals!”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/finally-trump-to-withhold-federal-funding-from-sanctuary-cities/
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  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    About fucking time. Fuck those lawbreaking asshats.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club

    Schumer shouldn't have threatened the SCOTUS yesterday.

    Trump is striking while the Justice Roberts iron is hot.

    Obamacare is under review again as well
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,063

    Schumer shouldn't have threatened the SCOTUS yesterday.

    Trump is striking while the Justice Roberts iron is hot.

    Obamacare is under review again as well
    Seems like a good spot for the well....bye.gif.

    Trump rolling hard while he's got the chance. It's been joyful since "impeachment' acquittal.

  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,009 Standard Supporter
    That idiot rat pol in chicago who tried to blame ICE for the rape of the 3 year old girl proves how insane these rats are. They don't deserve our tax dollars.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    The Washington Post said the Coors shooter found a noose on his locker several years ago

    Justifiable homicide
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    As you know I'm not a huge Trump fan but this seems completely justifiable.

    As my Dad always says "What the federal government subsidizes, the federal government controls".

    Will be chinteresting to see who caves, and when.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    dnc said:

    As you know I'm not a huge Trump fan but this seems completely justifiable.

    As my Dad always says "What the federal government subsidizes, the federal government controls".

    Will be chinteresting to see who caves, and when.

    Cant be. I'm told that California subsidizes everything else
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    ICE has also started a "Flood the Streets" operation in these sanctuary cities. They are now arresting illegals outside of the court house. This is why Trump's supporters like him. He is doing what he said he would do.

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/03/05/ice-agents-ignore-sanctuary-law-san-francisco-courthouse-arrest/
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    If only CD hadn't succumbed to the Typhus this could've killed him instead.

    How beautiful that Poetic Justice would've been. One can only imagine.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    As you know I'm not a huge Trump fan but this seems completely justifiable.

    As my Dad always says "What the federal government subsidizes, the federal government controls".

    Will be chinteresting to see who caves, and when.

    Cant be. I'm told that California subsidizes everything else
    And they can do whatever they want
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    dnc said:

    As you know I'm not a huge Trump fan but this seems completely justifiable.

    As my Dad always says "What the federal government subsidizes, the federal government controls".

    Will be chinteresting to see who caves, and when.

    Cant be. I'm told that California subsidizes everything else
    And they can do whatever they want
    Local official here in SF are sputtering about how ICE's actions are illegal and in violation of state law. ICE is telling them to go fuck themselves.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    Hilarious that the dumb fucking Dems are making states rights arguments, after spending the last 40 years shitting all over any Red State that tried to assert them.

    Hypocrisy anyone?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Hilarious that the dumb fucking Dems are making states rights arguments, after spending the last 40 years shitting all over any Red State that tried to assert them.

    Hypocrisy anyone?

    Not hilarious that conservatives are suddenly against states rights after spending the last 160 years supporting them?

    We're living in the upside down.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited March 2020
    dnc said:

    Hilarious that the dumb fucking Dems are making states rights arguments, after spending the last 40 years shitting all over any Red State that tried to assert them.

    Hypocrisy anyone?

    Not hilarious that conservatives are suddenly against states rights after spending the last 160 years supporting them?

    We're living in the upside down.

    When Rat party members stood in the school house doorway I didn't support it. Now when they thumb their nose at Federal law, I don't support it. State's have no authority over immigration issues. That's a section of the law left solely to the Federal government. Are some people above the law? State's Rights never involved areas of the law that are solely the purview of Federal Government.

    Hardly shocking that someone so ignorant of black voters isn't aware of this.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    SFGbob said:

    dnc said:

    Hilarious that the dumb fucking Dems are making states rights arguments, after spending the last 40 years shitting all over any Red State that tried to assert them.

    Hypocrisy anyone?

    Not hilarious that conservatives are suddenly against states rights after spending the last 160 years supporting them?

    We're living in the upside down.

    When Rat party members stood in the school house doorway I didn't support it. Now when they thumb their nose at Federal law, I don't support it. State's have no authority over immigration issues. That's a section of the law left solely to the Federal government. Are some people above the law? State's Right never involved areas of the law that are solely the purview of Federal Government.
    I don't disagree.

    I also think when the states won't support the rights of "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" for certain individuals in their purvey then it's the federal governments right (and responsibility) to step in and enforce those rights.

    Which pretty much ends the vast majority of states rights issues historically.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    I was never for State's Rights

    That wasn't a conservative issue not that I am a conservative. It was a racist's issue.

    Not everything is everybody does it equally

    The people I supported back in the day who now support state's rights and illegals over citizens are hurting minorities and white workers the most. The very people the democrats claim to help.

    And the people that Trump is helping.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    dnc said:

    SFGbob said:

    dnc said:

    Hilarious that the dumb fucking Dems are making states rights arguments, after spending the last 40 years shitting all over any Red State that tried to assert them.

    Hypocrisy anyone?

    Not hilarious that conservatives are suddenly against states rights after spending the last 160 years supporting them?

    We're living in the upside down.

    When Rat party members stood in the school house doorway I didn't support it. Now when they thumb their nose at Federal law, I don't support it. State's have no authority over immigration issues. That's a section of the law left solely to the Federal government. Are some people above the law? State's Right never involved areas of the law that are solely the purview of Federal Government.
    I don't disagree.

    I also think when the states won't support the rights of "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" for certain individuals in their purvey then it's the federal governments right (and responsibility) to step in and enforce those rights.

    Which pretty much ends the vast majority of states rights issues historically.
    Well racist Rat party members used to cry "States Rights" when they were trying to deny black Americans their civil rights, that is true but that's hardly the only state's rights issue.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    I was never for State's Rights

    That wasn't a conservative issue not that I am a conservative. It was a racist's issue.

    Not everything is everybody does it equally

    The people I supported back in the day who now support state's rights and illegals over citizens are hurting minorities and white workers the most. The very people the democrats claim to help.

    And the people that Trump is helping.

    You don't believe that a state should be able to set their own drinking age? How about gun laws? Should some states be able to allow concealed carry?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    Local control of education versus federal control

    Legitimate debates on non racist issues have been quashed by associating them with the racists that cried state's rights

    We are so far into federal control of everything that the left backtracking to deny the rights of citizens in favor of illegals is jarring
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    dnc said:

    Hilarious that the dumb fucking Dems are making states rights arguments, after spending the last 40 years shitting all over any Red State that tried to assert them.

    Hypocrisy anyone?

    Not hilarious that conservatives are suddenly against states rights after spending the last 160 years supporting them?

    We're living in the upside down.

    When Rat party members stood in the school house doorway I didn't support it. Now when they thumb their nose at Federal law, I don't support it. State's have no authority over immigration issues. That's a section of the law left solely to the Federal government. Are some people above the law? State's Rights never involved areas of the law that are solely the purview of Federal Government.

    Hardly shocking that someone so ignorant of black voters isn't aware of this.
    Don't see the issue spelled out right there, do you?

    While I haven't dug into every Sanctuary City's policies, the few I've looked at is almost entirely virtue signaling by the Proggies in charge locally. The city cannot change federal law, nor absolve anyone from violations thereof. All they are really tangibly doing is cutting funding from enforcing federal immigration law: no city cops on immigration cases, not tracking immigration status with city resources, etc. It's good local politics, or at least that's what these city councils think, but bad policy. It results in instances like Border Patrol SWAT units being off the border and used to run immigration arrests within cities, because ICE doesn't have local police support. However, I haven't read a good explanation of how this, strictly speaking, is illegal.

    A nuance lost here on the Proggy crowd that supports sanctuary cities, but decries the withdrawal of federal funds: The power that can give you a lot can take away a lot.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Local control of education versus federal control

    Legitimate debates on non racist issues have been quashed by associating them with the racists that cried state's rights

    We are so far into federal control of everything that the left backtracking to deny the rights of citizens in favor of illegals is jarring

    Federalism is the better term for all this.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    I was never for State's Rights

    That wasn't a conservative issue not that I am a conservative. It was a racist's issue.

    Not everything is everybody does it equally

    The people I supported back in the day who now support state's rights and illegals over citizens are hurting minorities and white workers the most. The very people the democrats claim to help.

    And the people that Trump is helping.

    You don't believe that a state should be able to set their own drinking age? How about gun laws? Should some states be able to allow concealed carry?
    Should some states be allowed to ignore the 2nd amendment and take your guns?

    Like I said the name state's rights is so associated with racists that it should be retired with Jim Crow

    There are things legitimately left to the states.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    dnc said:

    Hilarious that the dumb fucking Dems are making states rights arguments, after spending the last 40 years shitting all over any Red State that tried to assert them.

    Hypocrisy anyone?

    Not hilarious that conservatives are suddenly against states rights after spending the last 160 years supporting them?

    We're living in the upside down.

    When Rat party members stood in the school house doorway I didn't support it. Now when they thumb their nose at Federal law, I don't support it. State's have no authority over immigration issues. That's a section of the law left solely to the Federal government. Are some people above the law? State's Rights never involved areas of the law that are solely the purview of Federal Government.

    Hardly shocking that someone so ignorant of black voters isn't aware of this.
    Don't see the issue spelled out right there, do you?

    While I haven't dug into every Sanctuary City's policies, the few I've looked at is almost entirely virtue signaling by the Proggies in charge locally. The city cannot change federal law, nor absolve anyone from violations thereof. All they are really tangibly doing is cutting funding from enforcing federal immigration law: no city cops on immigration cases, not tracking immigration status with city resources, etc. It's good local politics, or at least that's what these city councils think, but bad policy. It results in instances like Border Patrol SWAT units being off the border and used to run immigration arrests within cities, because ICE doesn't have local police support. However, I haven't read a good explanation of how this, strictly speaking, is illegal.

    A nuance lost here on the Proggy crowd that supports sanctuary cities, but decries the withdrawal of federal funds: The power that can give you a lot can take away a lot.
    Here is what bothers me and many people I talk to

    Local districts in the name of progress and sanctuary will charge illegals differently than citizens. Biden said drunk driving isn't serious enough to warrant deportation but to make sure some don't even get charge. We see folks released to commit crimes again

    It's a real political issue. I know at home how much it pisses people off which is why I always talk about it. Free healthcare is another hot button. Its enough to cost the democrats power

    Bernie 2016 understood his working class appeal and free shit could not work with open borders. Now he apparently doesn't give a shit

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,746 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    ICE has also started a "Flood the Streets" operation in these sanctuary cities. They are now arresting illegals outside of the court house. This is why Trump's supporters like him. He is doing what he said he would do.

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/03/05/ice-agents-ignore-sanctuary-law-san-francisco-courthouse-arrest/

    He's done or is doing pretty much everything he promised to do. Amazing given the commie resistance within our government!
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,746 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    dnc said:

    Hilarious that the dumb fucking Dems are making states rights arguments, after spending the last 40 years shitting all over any Red State that tried to assert them.

    Hypocrisy anyone?

    Not hilarious that conservatives are suddenly against states rights after spending the last 160 years supporting them?

    We're living in the upside down.

    When Rat party members stood in the school house doorway I didn't support it. Now when they thumb their nose at Federal law, I don't support it. State's have no authority over immigration issues. That's a section of the law left solely to the Federal government. Are some people above the law? State's Rights never involved areas of the law that are solely the purview of Federal Government.

    Hardly shocking that someone so ignorant of black voters isn't aware of this.
    Don't see the issue spelled out right there, do you?

    While I haven't dug into every Sanctuary City's policies, the few I've looked at is almost entirely virtue signaling by the Proggies in charge locally. The city cannot change federal law, nor absolve anyone from violations thereof. All they are really tangibly doing is cutting funding from enforcing federal immigration law: no city cops on immigration cases, not tracking immigration status with city resources, etc. It's good local politics, or at least that's what these city councils think, but bad policy. It results in instances like Border Patrol SWAT units being off the border and used to run immigration arrests within cities, because ICE doesn't have local police support. However, I haven't read a good explanation of how this, strictly speaking, is illegal.

    A nuance lost here on the Proggy crowd that supports sanctuary cities, but decries the withdrawal of federal funds: The power that can give you a lot can take away a lot.
    Dealing with illegals arrested was as simple as making a phone call. Hardly a high cost item.

    We had a BP agent that lived in my city and he had a take home government ride. We'd give him a call and he'd picj 'em up on his way to work! Otherwise it just took a little longer for them to pick up. Cost my ass.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,063

    SFGbob said:

    I was never for State's Rights

    That wasn't a conservative issue not that I am a conservative. It was a racist's issue.

    Not everything is everybody does it equally

    The people I supported back in the day who now support state's rights and illegals over citizens are hurting minorities and white workers the most. The very people the democrats claim to help.

    And the people that Trump is helping.

    You don't believe that a state should be able to set their own drinking age? How about gun laws? Should some states be able to allow concealed carry?
    Should some states be allowed to ignore the 2nd amendment and take your guns?

    Like I said the name state's rights is so associated with racists that it should be retired with Jim Crow

    There are things legitimately left to the states.



    K.I.S.S. Pretty well laid out right thur for y'all.

    Anything in question, let the 9 homeys in robes figure it out.


  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    Hilarious that the dumb fucking Dems are making states rights arguments, after spending the last 40 years shitting all over any Red State that tried to assert them.

    Hypocrisy anyone?

    Not hilarious that conservatives are suddenly against states rights after spending the last 160 years supporting them?

    We're living in the upside down.

    Immigration is regulated at the federal level, chiefly under the rules established in 1952 with the passage of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986 was enacted to curb illegal immigration, denying welfare benefits to undocumented immigrants and strengthening sanctions against employers who hire them.

    The U.S. Congress has control over all immigration-related regulations, while the White House is in charge of enforcing immigration laws.

    Jurisdiction and the Supremacy Clause
    The federal government's jurisdiction over immigration law has consistently been upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court, which has overruled attempts by state legislatures to single out immigrants. Additionally, the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution is generally interpreted to mean that federal laws trump state laws, except for certain matters constitutionally left to the states.


    Sorry, you were saying?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    SFGbob said:

    dnc said:

    Hilarious that the dumb fucking Dems are making states rights arguments, after spending the last 40 years shitting all over any Red State that tried to assert them.

    Hypocrisy anyone?

    Not hilarious that conservatives are suddenly against states rights after spending the last 160 years supporting them?

    We're living in the upside down.

    When Rat party members stood in the school house doorway I didn't support it. Now when they thumb their nose at Federal law, I don't support it. State's have no authority over immigration issues. That's a section of the law left solely to the Federal government. Are some people above the law? State's Right never involved areas of the law that are solely the purview of Federal Government.
    I don't disagree.

    I also think when the states won't support the rights of "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" for certain individuals in their purvey then it's the federal governments right (and responsibility) to step in and enforce those rights.

    Which pretty much ends the vast majority of states rights issues historically.
    @dnc, you're confusing the Constitution's language with the Declaration of Independence. Two vastly different documents. Two vastly different purposes.

    C'mon @dnc. You're better than that.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Sanctuary cities aren't about fucking states rights or the Constitution. They are about showing how compassionate they are by sticking it to Trump.