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2020 NFL DRAFT
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Is this a trick question?RoadDawg55 said:
Why are you hanging onto this? It’s dumb.joeEDangerously said:
Did he grow over the weekend or block any good D-lineman yet?DoogCourics said:
Former 10-time Pro Bowler Joe Thomas...joeEDangerously said:Anyone still dooging out for Harris?
"Standouts from group OL group #1 were @MekhiBecton from @UofLFootball and Nick Harris from @UW_Football washington"
Nick Shook - NFL.com...
"Standouts I liked most from the two OL sessions: Tristan Wirfs, Jedrick Wills, Nick Harris, Cesar Ruiz, Jack Driscoll, Ezra Cleveland, Danny Pinter, Austin Jackson and Joshua Jones."
Gavino Borquez - NFL Draft Wire...
"My early offensive line favorites from the first on-field portion: Nick Harris (Washington), Jack Driscoll (Auburn), Ezra Cleveland (Boise State) and Matt Hennessy (Temple)."
Jacob Infante - NFL Draft Wire
"Washington OL Nick Harris has lowkey put together an impressive #NFLCombine so far.
"Ran a 5.10 40-yard-dash at 302 pounds and has looked really fluid and agile in movement drills. Looks like a quality Day 2 center prospect." -
What are those percentiles of?insinceredawg said: -
https://3sigmaathlete.com/Mad_Son said:
What are those percentiles of?insinceredawg said:
The percentiles are where their pSPARQ places them among current NFL players.
@RaceBannon and I were first in being right. After getting our asses kicked all year long in the 2nd half and then this, fire Socha. -
Probably a little simple. So they were fast/strong enough to build leads against Utah and Oregon but then suddenly weren't fast or strong? The combine tests aren't muscle endurance or cardio tests, so if this narrative were true they would likely do fine in the combine tests except for the bench, the one muscle endurance test. But Hunter did fine in that.Emoterman said:
https://3sigmaathlete.com/Mad_Son said:
What are those percentiles of?insinceredawg said:
The percentiles are where their pSPARQ places them among current NFL players.
@RaceBannon and I were first in being right. After getting our asses kicked all year long in the 2nd half and then this, fire Socha.
More likely we were weak mentally and had shit offensive coaching that couldn't adjust once the opponent's defense got their shit together. -
For comparison, to see if this is a training room issue, past guys:
Budda - 36%
Ross - 96
Dissly - 17
BBK - 85
Gaines - 40
Gaskin - 31
Kaleb - 84
Jordan - 22
Byron - 46
Rapp - 32
King Kevoo - 99
Sample - 52
Socha was here, right? Only have two guys approaching the low numbers of this year's crop; makes it seem like an anomaly.
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"Suddenly their poor conditioning led to them getting their asses kicked" would plainly be the argument that I was making. Failed conditioning evidenced by getting asses kicked in the final 1/3rd of the game, and failing at bigger, faster, stronger evidenced by not a single combine attendee that cracked the top 2/3 in testing. They can both be true, no? What am I missing? Not sure what one of our players having a very specific form of endurance is even meant to be evidence of.RealRhino said:
Probably a little simple. So they were fast/strong enough to build leads against Utah and Oregon but then suddenly weren't fast or strong? The combine tests aren't muscle endurance or cardio tests, so if this narrative were true they would likely do fine in the combine tests except for the bench, the one muscle endurance test. But Hunter did fine in that.Emoterman said:
https://3sigmaathlete.com/Mad_Son said:
What are those percentiles of?insinceredawg said:
The percentiles are where their pSPARQ places them among current NFL players.
@RaceBannon and I were first in being right. After getting our asses kicked all year long in the 2nd half and then this, fire Socha.
More likely we were weak mentally and had shit offensive coaching that couldn't adjust once the opponent's defense got their shit together.
I do accede that Pete having checked out from January 2019 on probably trickled down in suppressed morale team wide. People can easily tell when someone has lost passion, and when it's your philosophical manager CEO who wants to instill the values of hard work who has abandoned you spiritually, it would be super easy to let your ethic slide and slack off. But, it could be argued that that is specifically Socha's job to instill that ethic, and whether it's his fault or not, he has the taint of losing and failure on him with empirically bad results; the taint is on the whole staff, which is why it's shocking to me so many of them were retained, especially if this is the argument being made for 2nd half collapses as opposed to the quotidian explanation of lacking conditioning. -
Wow, this seemed like the potential weakness in the argument that Socha sucks, but other than genetic freaks Ross, McGary, and King (I'm implicitly arguing that they'd score high with or without S&C), everyone except BBK barely average, and even including BBK's 85th %, the average percentile of the moldable clay is 40th; 34th plucking out self-motivating BBK.RealRhino said:For comparison, to see if this is a training room issue, past guys:
Budda - 36%
Ross - 96
Dissly - 17
BBK - 85
Gaines - 40
Gaskin - 31
Kaleb - 84
Jordan - 22
Byron - 46
Rapp - 32
King Kevoo - 99
Sample - 52
Socha was here, right? Only have two guys approaching the low numbers of this year's crop; makes it seem like an anomaly.
Again, what am I missing? That data set is even more damning, to my eyes. -
We’ll see with Socha. I agree that Pete checking out subconsciously had an effect on the whole program.
We have always sucked in close games under Pete and I’ve always had a hypothesis that Pete’s high strung personality played a role.
Is the percentile shit a sparks score? Are we grading 40’s or everything they do at the combine? -
"The list of inputs for my NFL version of SPARQ, pSPARQ, are as follows: weight, forty-yard dash, ten-yard split, short shuttle, 3-cone drill, bench press, vertical jump, and broad jump."RoadDawg55 said:We’ll see with Socha. I agree that Pete checking out subconsciously had an effect on the whole program.
We have always sucked in close games under Pete and I’ve always had a hypothesis that Pete’s high strung personality played a role.
Is the percentile shit a sparks score? Are we grading 40’s or everything they do at the combine? -
It’s not impressive, but guys like Gaines, Gaskin, and Myles Bryant were never going to do well in a combine type setting. Equally concerning is that the instincts of the team have also drastically decreased.Emoterman said:
"The list of inputs for my NFL version of SPARQ, pSPARQ, are as follows: weight, forty-yard dash, ten-yard split, short shuttle, 3-cone drill, bench press, vertical jump, and broad jump."RoadDawg55 said:We’ll see with Socha. I agree that Pete checking out subconsciously had an effect on the whole program.
We have always sucked in close games under Pete and I’ve always had a hypothesis that Pete’s high strung personality played a role.
Is the percentile shit a sparks score? Are we grading 40’s or everything they do at the combine?
Gaskin, Gaines, Rapp, BBK, Jones, Murphy (to a lesser extent) and a few others were not great because of their athleticism, but their football IQ. I would love to see a team that is huge and dominant up front with smart players behind it. We used to have a lot of guys that were really fucking good because they had elite instincts.
Rapp, Baker, Jones, and BBK were special players in that regard.
