Kaepernick to play in XFL

georgiaduck said:

ramenduck said:

If you're Kaep, why put your body on the line for relative peanuts in a second-tier league? He's already made his money both inside and outside of football. I don't blame him for not risking injury if he believes he can still play at the game's highest level (IMO he can't).

He lost me for good with the pig socks, and sunk further with the workout charade. But not wanting to take less money to play in the XFL doesn't move the needle for me. Seems reasoned and understandable IMO. There's plenty else there to bag on.

Edit: Re-reading, I noticed I didn't address your actual point. We agree that Kaep isn't serious about playing in the league again.

If he plays well in a minor league and gets another shot, his endorsement deals would be through the roof.

GDS said:

georgiaduck said:

GDS said:

The workout charade was as much on the league as it was on Kaep. Agree though that he no longer is really interested in actually playing but needs the idea out there that he is.

Disagree- the NFL set up a date/time to give Kaepernick the audience he needed for a solid look. They had more than 3/4 of the teams represented with intent to distribute film to the rest. QB97 decided to move the practice at the last minute to a location more than an hour away. This which was a basic finger wave to those who traveled to see him play- folks bailed because they knew he was just posing.

And waited till the last minute to provide the terms and waiver to Kaep, including terms they knew Kaep wouldn’t accept. I agree Kaep at this point sees more value in not playing but that was a PR stunt by the NFL and they knew based on the terms in which it was laid out he wouldn’t show. If they truly wanted to give him an audience they would have provided him the terms from the jump and worked with him to make it open. They had no intention of providing him a venue but wanted the appearance of one and Kaep called em on it.

Swing and a miss-The noon today is in fact, Saturday so they had 72 hours to review.

» On Wednesday, we sent Colin's representatives a standard liability waiver based on the waiver used by National Invitational Camp at all NFL Combines and by NFL clubs when trying out free agent players. At noon today, Colin's representatives sent a completely rewritten and insufficient waiver.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001077164/article/nfl-releases-statement-on-change-to-colin-kaepernick-workout

Not a miss at all. You, I, the NFL and 99.9% of football fans if they are being honest, knew well in advance that the NFL holding a workout for Kaepernick, a guy who sued and successfully settled with the league for conspiring to keep him out of the league, would be different from just about any other workout that the NFL would normally participate in. The NFL has/had a vested interest in the narrative, however false it may be, that Kaepernick was not signed based off his talent or lack thereof. Knowing where the league interest lies there is no way Kaepernick would allow the NFL to control the situation to the point that no outside media would be allowed in, no one (not even Kaepernick himself) but the NFL would own the footage and the right to decide how much of it and in what form it's disseminated. Knowing the leagues interest in the process, Kaepernick upon signing that waiver, would have allowed the NFL to parse that footage to paint the workout in whatever form they deemed appropriate. The NFL knew that well in advance of sending over the waiver. If they were going to release the entire video footage in raw form to the media and other teams why not put in writing in the waiver? In reality both parties probably got what they wanted out of it anyway. The NFL is able to push the narrative that they gave Kaepernick every chance and he just didn't cut it which the Kaepernick haters can lap up and push out. Meanwhile, Kaepernick can keep riding the bucking the racist system conspiring against him narrative that he feels is best for his brand.

GDS said:

georgiaduck said:

ramenduck said:

If you're Kaep, why put your body on the line for relative peanuts in a second-tier league? He's already made his money both inside and outside of football. I don't blame him for not risking injury if he believes he can still play at the game's highest level (IMO he can't).

He lost me for good with the pig socks, and sunk further with the workout charade. But not wanting to take less money to play in the XFL doesn't move the needle for me. Seems reasoned and understandable IMO. There's plenty else there to bag on.

Edit: Re-reading, I noticed I didn't address your actual point. We agree that Kaep isn't serious about playing in the league again.

If he plays well in a minor league and gets another shot, his endorsement deals would be through the roof.

GDS said:

georgiaduck said:

GDS said:

The workout charade was as much on the league as it was on Kaep. Agree though that he no longer is really interested in actually playing but needs the idea out there that he is.

Disagree- the NFL set up a date/time to give Kaepernick the audience he needed for a solid look. They had more than 3/4 of the teams represented with intent to distribute film to the rest. QB97 decided to move the practice at the last minute to a location more than an hour away. This which was a basic finger wave to those who traveled to see him play- folks bailed because they knew he was just posing.

And waited till the last minute to provide the terms and waiver to Kaep, including terms they knew Kaep wouldn’t accept. I agree Kaep at this point sees more value in not playing but that was a PR stunt by the NFL and they knew based on the terms in which it was laid out he wouldn’t show. If they truly wanted to give him an audience they would have provided him the terms from the jump and worked with him to make it open. They had no intention of providing him a venue but wanted the appearance of one and Kaep called em on it.

Swing and a miss-The noon today is in fact, Saturday so they had 72 hours to review.

» On Wednesday, we sent Colin's representatives a standard liability waiver based on the waiver used by National Invitational Camp at all NFL Combines and by NFL clubs when trying out free agent players. At noon today, Colin's representatives sent a completely rewritten and insufficient waiver.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001077164/article/nfl-releases-statement-on-change-to-colin-kaepernick-workout

Not a miss at all. You, I, the NFL and 99.9% of football fans if they are being honest, knew well in advance that the NFL holding a workout for Kaepernick, a guy who sued and successfully settled with the league for conspiring to keep him out of the league, would be different from just about any other workout that the NFL would normally participate in. The NFL has/had a vested interest in the narrative, however false it may be, that Kaepernick was not signed based off his talent or lack thereof. Knowing where the league interest lies there is no way Kaepernick would allow the NFL to control the situation to the point that no outside media would be allowed in, no one (not even Kaepernick himself) but the NFL would own the footage and the right to decide how much of it and in what form it's disseminated. Knowing the leagues interest in the process, Kaepernick upon signing that waiver, would have allowed the NFL to parse that footage to paint the workout in whatever form they deemed appropriate. The NFL knew that well in advance of sending over the waiver. If they were going to release the entire video footage in raw form to the media and other teams why not put in writing in the waiver? In reality both parties probably got what they wanted out of it anyway. The NFL is able to push the narrative that they gave Kaepernick every chance and he just didn't cut it which the Kaepernick haters can lap up and push out. Meanwhile, Kaepernick can keep riding the bucking the racist system conspiring against him narrative that he feels is best for his brand.

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