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Always special posting a link that actually shows his stats were correct. Unless you use word semantics.DJDuck said:Plus Bloomberg is feeding people crap and Trump isn’t
Michael Bloomberg's Claim About 'Children' Killed by 'Gun Violence' Is Off by 73%
Such inflammatory exaggeration seems designed to avoid a substantive discussion of the presidential candidate's gun control proposals.
https://reason.com/2020/02/02/michael-bloombergs-claim-about-children-killed-by-gun-violence-is-off-by-73/
And advocating for gun education is now inflammatory lol. What a communist he is. -
They don't tell you the woman's"kid" was 19 or 20 and a gang member.DerekJohnson said:
That's very true. But I still think it's best to just help out but then not draw attention to it for self-benefit.DJDuck said:Except that Trump actually directly helped Alice Johnson and she has said he was responsible for her freedom. Whereas Bloomberg used a random tragedy to pump up his gun control agenda.
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he should be impeached for thatDerekJohnson said:
That's very true. But I still think it's best to just help out but then not draw attention to it for self-benefit.DJDuck said:Except that Trump actually directly helped Alice Johnson and she has said he was responsible for her freedom. Whereas Bloomberg used a random tragedy to pump up his gun control agenda.
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President Trump’s Super Bowl ad was smart, to the point, and powerful (VIDEO)
“President Trump’s ad during the Suepr Bowl didn’t focus on controversies. It didn’t talk about impeachment or witch hunts. It didn’t argue against socialist Democrats.
Instead it attacked the number one gaslighting narrative the media and Democrats are throwing at him: That he has done no good for this country.”
https://therightscoop.com/president-trumps-super-bowl-ad-was-smart-to-the-point-and-powerful-video/ -
“The ad’s claim that “2,900 children die from gun violence every year” comes from Everytown for Gun Safety and counts people ages 0 to 19. Other groups look at people ages 0 to 17 and count roughly 1,500 deaths per year.“
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/feb/02/super-bowl-ad-watch-mike-bloomberg-gun-control/
“But how you count matters, and the age range makes a big difference. The age of majority — the age at which a child legally becomes an adult — is 18 in most states.
In a 2017 report, the CDC counted firearm-related deaths for children ages 0 to 17 and found that on average, from 2012 to 2014, nearly 1,300 children died at the hands of guns each year.
Other major gun control organizations, such as the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and Gifford’s Law Center, used the same CDC data as Everytown and the 0-to-17 age range, placing their tallies for children at roughly 1,500 gun-related deaths per year.
The NRA, Fox News and a number of conservative news sites called Bloomberg’s statistic misleading for counting 18- and 19-year-old victims. But Wood told us the age distinction is meaningless for parents — like Calandrian Kemp — who lose their children to gun violence.
"Ask any grieving parent whose 18- or 19-year-old son or daughter was shot and killed, and they will tell you they lost a child," Wood said. "There are simply too many of these deaths, and Mike has a plan to prevent them with common-sense gun safety laws."
George Kemp was 20 when he died, according to local reports at the time.”
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So you are ok with 1,500 kids dying, but 2,900 is only too many if they are all under 18.DJDuck said:
“The ad’s claim that “2,900 children die from gun violence every year” comes from Everytown for Gun Safety and counts people ages 0 to 19. Other groups look at people ages 0 to 17 and count roughly 1,500 deaths per year.“
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/feb/02/super-bowl-ad-watch-mike-bloomberg-gun-control/
“But how you count matters, and the age range makes a big difference. The age of majority — the age at which a child legally becomes an adult — is 18 in most states.
In a 2017 report, the CDC counted firearm-related deaths for children ages 0 to 17 and found that on average, from 2012 to 2014, nearly 1,300 children died at the hands of guns each year.
Other major gun control organizations, such as the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and Gifford’s Law Center, used the same CDC data as Everytown and the 0-to-17 age range, placing their tallies for children at roughly 1,500 gun-related deaths per year.
The NRA, Fox News and a number of conservative news sites called Bloomberg’s statistic misleading for counting 18- and 19-year-old victims. But Wood told us the age distinction is meaningless for parents — like Calandrian Kemp — who lose their children to gun violence.
"Ask any grieving parent whose 18- or 19-year-old son or daughter was shot and killed, and they will tell you they lost a child," Wood said. "There are simply too many of these deaths, and Mike has a plan to prevent them with common-sense gun safety laws."
George Kemp was 20 when he died, according to local reports at the time.”
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He also thinks the Chiefs play in Kansas.
I know, I know. 57 states. -
Fact Check.Org
Gun Deaths
“Bloomberg’s 60-second commercial, which his campaign unveiled Thursday, features an emotional Calandrian Simpson Kemp of Houston, Texas, talking about her late son, George Kemp Jr., who was fatally shot during an altercation in 2013.
As Kemp calls it a “national crisis” that “lives are being lost every day” to guns, a graphic on screen says, “2,900 children die from gun violence every year.” She later asserts that the gun lobby should fear Bloomberg because “Mike’s fighting for every child.”
Bloomberg’s campaign told us the statistic comes from the former New York mayor’s own nonprofit that advocates stricter gun laws, Everytown for Gun Safety. But that organization used different language in a June 2019 fact sheet.
“Annually, nearly 2,900 children and teens (ages 0 to 19) are shot and killed, and nearly 15,600 are shot and injured,” the document said. (The emphasis is ours.)
That doesn’t include Kemp’s son, who was 20 at the time of his death nearly seven years ago. But it does include many 18- and 19-year-olds who also were legally considered adults in most U.S. states — not “children,” as the ad claims.
When limited to young people ages 0 to 17, the number of firearm-related deaths drops by nearly half to roughly 1,499 per year, according to the most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Web-based Injury Statistics Query and Reporting System. (That’s the average over the five years from 2013-2017, the same time period used in Everytown for Gun Safety’s calculation.)
And not all of them were murdered like George Kemp or the young students at a school in Newtown, Connecticut, which could be the impression some get from the two examples used in the ad.
The majority of those — 792 — were homicides (which includes legal interventions) while 590, or around 39%, were deaths by suicide. The remainder were either unintentional deaths (88) or deaths in which the intent couldn’t be determined (30).
It is certainly not our intent to minimize the deaths of those young people older than 17, but the fact is, a lot of them, if not all, were not “children” by law.”
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Donald Trump's commercial just said our country is at the most prosperous time ever. You going to fact check that claim?DJDuck said:Fact Check.Org
Gun Deaths
“Bloomberg’s 60-second commercial, which his campaign unveiled Thursday, features an emotional Calandrian Simpson Kemp of Houston, Texas, talking about her late son, George Kemp Jr., who was fatally shot during an altercation in 2013.
As Kemp calls it a “national crisis” that “lives are being lost every day” to guns, a graphic on screen says, “2,900 children die from gun violence every year.” She later asserts that the gun lobby should fear Bloomberg because “Mike’s fighting for every child.”
Bloomberg’s campaign told us the statistic comes from the former New York mayor’s own nonprofit that advocates stricter gun laws, Everytown for Gun Safety. But that organization used different language in a June 2019 fact sheet.
“Annually, nearly 2,900 children and teens (ages 0 to 19) are shot and killed, and nearly 15,600 are shot and injured,” the document said. (The emphasis is ours.)
That doesn’t include Kemp’s son, who was 20 at the time of his death nearly seven years ago. But it does include many 18- and 19-year-olds who also were legally considered adults in most U.S. states — not “children,” as the ad claims.
When limited to young people ages 0 to 17, the number of firearm-related deaths drops by nearly half to roughly 1,499 per year, according to the most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Web-based Injury Statistics Query and Reporting System. (That’s the average over the five years from 2013-2017, the same time period used in Everytown for Gun Safety’s calculation.)
And not all of them were murdered like George Kemp or the young students at a school in Newtown, Connecticut, which could be the impression some get from the two examples used in the ad.
The majority of those — 792 — were homicides (which includes legal interventions) while 590, or around 39%, were deaths by suicide. The remainder were either unintentional deaths (88) or deaths in which the intent couldn’t be determined (30).
It is certainly not our intent to minimize the deaths of those young people older than 17, but the fact is, a lot of them, if not all, were not “children” by law.” -
Asshole clown on here uses strawman idiocy.
