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Virginia pro-gun rally draws crowds amid fears of violence

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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,961 Founders Club

    So guns were needed to ensure civil rights for freed slaves?
    Yes, in the form of Federal troops with guns. Armed former slaves got massacred regularly during the Reconstruction period. They were outnumbered.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    edited January 2020

    What? It gets brought up here everyday- i.e., a well armed citizenry helps to ensure that we remain a republic free from tyranny.
    Sled is the armed rebellion fetishist.

    The real check is against the incremental creep governmental overstep, and the tyranny of dependence.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,961 Founders Club

    Sled is the armed rebellion fetishist.

    The real check is against the incremental creep governmental overstep, and the tyranny of dependence.
    This. Thank you, Grumble.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    So there are times guns are required to defend rights.
    Also a great example of the soft tyranny of dependence.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,961 Founders Club
    edited January 2020

    So there are times guns are required to defend rights.
    Yes, there are times when the State (with guns) has to defend the rights of minorities against armed militias (with guns).
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,961 Founders Club

    But never the need to defend rights against the state with guns. That never happens.

    So just allow the state to have a monopoly on force.

    Might as well not even play the game.
    The State has had a near monopoly on REAL force since the late 1800s pretty much.

    In 1861 it was pretty much a fair fight. Big Ten had rifled muskets and cannons. SEC/ACC had rifled muskets and cannons.

    Much has changed.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,961 Founders Club

    Yeller getting shredded

    GOP statist division. Trust the government to protect your rights

    OK, Boomer.

    I trust Democracy and the Constitutional Process to protect my rights. The American citizenry has more and better guns than we've ever had access to in our entire history.

    Seems like the 2A has been winning for the most part.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,961 Founders Club

    Look at the military guys that post here

    They wouldn't shoot me on the orders of some fascist

    The USA hasn't won a war where they couldn't flatten the place. Same with the USSR

    Enough armed citizens make the price too high. VC 101

    What was missing in Venezuela were the guns
    No, they wouldn't. Our service members believe in freedom and democracy and and won't fight and die for a totalitarian regime.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 111,041 Founders Club

    No, they wouldn't. Our service members believe in freedom and democracy and and won't fight and die for a totalitarian regime.
    And there we are

    Peace in our time
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,696 Founders Club




    We don't cotton racism here. Very much
    If there is a real God, Race should Photoshop a Kangol boiler cap over the Carhartt beanie.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    The State has had a near monopoly on REAL force since the late 1800s pretty much.

    In 1861 it was pretty much a fair fight. Big Ten had rifled muskets and cannons. SEC/ACC had rifled muskets and cannons.

    Much has changed.
    You act like all of the weapons and personnel in the state military will remain so.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,961 Founders Club
    edited January 2020

    You act like all of the weapons and personnel in the state military will remain so.
    It's hard to say. They didn't in 1861. The Southern States got most of the equipment from the Federal arsenals there.
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