What kind of snake oil bullshit did Donovan sell Lake into thinking he was a worthy hire?
I want a press conference to learn how exactly Jimmy looked at this guy's resume and said "yep, this is the guy to lead UW's offense back to the top of the conference."
I still can't believe how stupid this is. Fuck this team. Program. Administration. School. People. Region. Country. Hemisphere. Planet. Existence.
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I miss him so much.Postal91 said:
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I think it’s probably the opposite. I don’t think this guy had any inclination of getting back into big time college football. I think he was comfortable as an asst to the running backs coach. I think jimmy sought him out which is even worse as a scenario.
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I get that sense tooAtomicDawg said:I think it’s probably the opposite. I don’t think this guy had any inclination of getting back into big time college football. I think he was comfortable as an asst to the running backs coach. I think jimmy sought him out which is even worse as a scenario.
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I’m sure we’ll get to the bottom of it in this thread.
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He is a tough guy because he grew up in jersey
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It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
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He was an assistant RB coach. Not even an actual RB coach. Definitely the cream of the cropTequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
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His offenses fucking sucked. He was never more than an asst to the asst in the nfl. And we felt compelled to lock him up for 3 years at a hire salary than the previous OC.Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
Hope it works out but fuck yes I am pissed off just for the negotiating skills alone.
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He's been an OC for 5 years and never had an offense get ranked above 60th in the country.Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
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Right ...whatshouldicareabout said:
He's been an OC for 5 years and never had an offense get ranked above 60th in the country.Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
We fired Hamdan after finishing 41st in the country.
Because Hamdan's talent at hand at UW was comparable to Vandy and Penn St coming off sanctions
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We’re mere simpletons. We’ll patiently await your breathtakingly thorough, peer reviewed numbers crunch and prepare to be humbled.Tequilla said:
Right ...whatshouldicareabout said:
He's been an OC for 5 years and never had an offense get ranked above 60th in the country.Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
We fired Hamdan after finishing 41st in the country.
Because Hamdan's talent at hand at UW was comparable to Vandy and Penn St coming off sanctions
Great analysis -
MakaDawg said:
We’re mere simpletons. We’ll patiently await your breathtakingly thorough, peer reviewed numbers crunch and prepare to be humbled.Tequilla said:
Right ...whatshouldicareabout said:
He's been an OC for 5 years and never had an offense get ranked above 60th in the country.Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
We fired Hamdan after finishing 41st in the country.
Because Hamdan's talent at hand at UW was comparable to Vandy and Penn St coming off sanctions
Great analysis
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ok teq my eyes and mind are openTequilla said:
Right ...whatshouldicareabout said:
He's been an OC for 5 years and never had an offense get ranked above 60th in the country.Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
We fired Hamdan after finishing 41st in the country.
Because Hamdan's talent at hand at UW was comparable to Vandy and Penn St coming off sanctions
Great analysis
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Dig deeper.Gladstone said:
ok teq my eyes and mind are openTequilla said:
Right ...whatshouldicareabout said:
He's been an OC for 5 years and never had an offense get ranked above 60th in the country.Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
We fired Hamdan after finishing 41st in the country.
Because Hamdan's talent at hand at UW was comparable to Vandy and Penn St coming off sanctions
Great analysis
let's hear it -
So instead of hiring someone who has actually been good, you? hired someone who actually might not suck?Tequilla said:
Right ...whatshouldicareabout said:
He's been an OC for 5 years and never had an offense get ranked above 60th in the country.Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
We fired Hamdan after finishing 41st in the country.
Because Hamdan's talent at hand at UW was comparable to Vandy and Penn St coming off sanctions
Great analysis -
Because we haven’t gotten your deep deep dive yet. What’d you uncover???Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
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It’s so weird that Penn State could field a defense that only gave up 4.1 yards per play (second in the nation) coming off SANCTIONS.Tequilla said:
Right ...whatshouldicareabout said:
He's been an OC for 5 years and never had an offense get ranked above 60th in the country.Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
We fired Hamdan after finishing 41st in the country.
Because Hamdan's talent at hand at UW was comparable to Vandy and Penn St coming off sanctions
Great analysis
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WASHTON FANGladstone said:
ok teq my eyes and mind are openTequilla said:
Right ...whatshouldicareabout said:
He's been an OC for 5 years and never had an offense get ranked above 60th in the country.Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
We fired Hamdan after finishing 41st in the country.
Because Hamdan's talent at hand at UW was comparable to Vandy and Penn St coming off sanctions
Great analysis
let's hear it -
Pretty obvious to me our? new TE coach got Donovan hired. Not sure how we improved TE coaching or recruiting by simply promoting a guy already here. But that’s the common denominator.
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Bush getting promoted to the WR coach worked out well, so might be a chance the TE is ok.LawDawg1 said:Pretty obvious to me our? new TE coach got Donovan hired. Not sure how we improved TE coaching or recruiting by simply promoting a guy already here. But that’s the common denominator.
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The issues is Donovan’s track record smells of a fucking loser. And historic performance is pretty decent predictor of the future performance. This is a more risky higher, because unlike some unproven coach without a track record. This dude track record bites dick.Tequilla said:
Right ...whatshouldicareabout said:
He's been an OC for 5 years and never had an offense get ranked above 60th in the country.Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
We fired Hamdan after finishing 41st in the country.
Because Hamdan's talent at hand at UW was comparable to Vandy and Penn St coming off sanctions
Great analysis
I am rooting for him to be successful, but based on his resume we are in for a rough ride.
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Taking the opposite stance just because I see. It’s a bad hire and he has sucked.Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
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I'm just saying that nobody really knows anything about this guy ...MakaDawg said:
We’re mere simpletons. We’ll patiently await your breathtakingly thorough, peer reviewed numbers crunch and prepare to be humbled.Tequilla said:
Right ...whatshouldicareabout said:
He's been an OC for 5 years and never had an offense get ranked above 60th in the country.Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
We fired Hamdan after finishing 41st in the country.
Because Hamdan's talent at hand at UW was comparable to Vandy and Penn St coming off sanctions
Great analysis
Everything is coming from the perspective of:
1) He was fired from Penn St and has been an offensive analyst in the NFL since then
2) SP+ stats
3) Comparative to Moorhead ... which I'm not entirely sure anybody's looked that deep at that
4) Twitter folk have been vocal against the hire
5) Nobody had heard of him prior to the hire
I've started looking into the numbers ... some of it feeds into some of the criticisms ... some of it isn't as bad as some are making it out to be.
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So your analysis is the stats are bad. Maybe not that bad. But nobody knows until after we see the offense. Great take. Why have an opinion until the results are in then?Tequilla said:
I'm just saying that nobody really knows anything about this guy ...MakaDawg said:
We’re mere simpletons. We’ll patiently await your breathtakingly thorough, peer reviewed numbers crunch and prepare to be humbled.Tequilla said:
Right ...whatshouldicareabout said:
He's been an OC for 5 years and never had an offense get ranked above 60th in the country.Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
We fired Hamdan after finishing 41st in the country.
Because Hamdan's talent at hand at UW was comparable to Vandy and Penn St coming off sanctions
Great analysis
Everything is coming from the perspective of:
1) He was fired from Penn St and has been an offensive analyst in the NFL since then
2) SP+ stats
3) Comparative to Moorhead ... which I'm not entirely sure anybody's looked that deep at that
4) Twitter folk have been vocal against the hire
5) Nobody had heard of him prior to the hire
I've started looking into the numbers ... some of it feeds into some of the criticisms ... some of it isn't as bad as some are making it out to be.
Ultimately, nobody knows jack shit until we get to September. -
El oh El. No one's analyzed this hire but you. Need to Wade through Teq Thoughts diarrhea to see the real picture.Tequilla said:
... which I'm not entirely sure anybody's looked that deep at thatMakaDawg said:
We’re mere simpletons. We’ll patiently await your breathtakingly thorough, peer reviewed numbers crunch and prepare to be humbled.Tequilla said:
Right ...whatshouldicareabout said:
He's been an OC for 5 years and never had an offense get ranked above 60th in the country.Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
We fired Hamdan after finishing 41st in the country.
Because Hamdan's talent at hand at UW was comparable to Vandy and Penn St coming off sanctions
Great analysis -
If you think there is a case to be made that he wasn’t a complete failure at Penn State then make it. Otherwise you’re bringing nothing.Tequilla said:
I'm just saying that nobody really knows anything about this guy ...MakaDawg said:
We’re mere simpletons. We’ll patiently await your breathtakingly thorough, peer reviewed numbers crunch and prepare to be humbled.Tequilla said:
Right ...whatshouldicareabout said:
He's been an OC for 5 years and never had an offense get ranked above 60th in the country.Tequilla said:It's funny reading everybody say that he sucks without really knowing anything about the guy other than some SP+ stats
We fired Hamdan after finishing 41st in the country.
Because Hamdan's talent at hand at UW was comparable to Vandy and Penn St coming off sanctions
Great analysis
Everything is coming from the perspective of:
1) He was fired from Penn St and has been an offensive analyst in the NFL since then
2) SP+ stats
3) Comparative to Moorhead ... which I'm not entirely sure anybody's looked that deep at that
4) Twitter folk have been vocal against the hire
5) Nobody had heard of him prior to the hire
I've started looking into the numbers ... some of it feeds into some of the criticisms ... some of it isn't as bad as some are making it out to be.
Ultimately, nobody knows jack shit until we get to September.
