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70's or now it was still the left doing the shit talking.
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There were Neo-Nazis robbing armored cars back in the 80s, preparing for their separate country in the PNW, dreaming of doing bad things to blacks and Jews, etc. The worst were a paramilitary offshoot of the Hayden Lake, ID group that at one point had a 100+ members. They were ex-military guys known as "The Order" led by Robert Mathews, until the ATF barbecued him inside a cabin on Whidbey Island. The most infamous act of that groups was murdering a Jewish radio talk show host, Alan Berg, in Denver. There were some Central Cali Nazis run by Tom Metzger and his son that caused some trouble, attacked people in groups, and caused some mayhem. At it's peak in the late 80's, we used to see some younger Nazi skinheads causing trouble on Cap Hill and in the U District, mostly just looking stupid in their crew-cuts, wearing camouflage, yelling at people, and occasionally jumping somebody, but after a few of those groups got their asses beat on Broadway by a bunch of blacks and gays, they sort of disappeared back into the ether.Bendintheriver said:
A cousin/Vet actually moved away from the NW due to the treatment he was receiving at work and out in public. At times it was physical abuse but mostly verbal. Moved to Wyoming and has loved life ever since. All of the shit he took came from libs.LebamDawg said:As a Vet I have another basic gripe for me was that most of America seemed to hate anything to do with people in the military. I went years with no one even knowing I was a Vet. I did that because I got tired of everyone being so down on Vets.
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but before that I had given up on the Liberal/Far Right side for spewing their hate - and seemed to be the extreme left of the dems and of course the fringe socialist parties, and the extreme right on the repubs and their neo-nazi gropus.
You mention neo-nazi's. Is there such a thing in the NW? I have never seen any neo-nazi's even when I was in politics. Never have ever seen them here in the SE. I know that there are some in the world and the lib media focuses on them as if they were a mainstream group which they aren't, but it sounds like you actually ran into some and I am curious where. This is a real question and I am not disagreeing with you at all. Just curious.
Turns out it's embarrassing to threaten and accost queers, and then get beaten into the ground by them.
I would guess at its peak, the PNW Neo-Nazi movement probably had 1500-2000 loosely affiliated members and about 100 - 200 hard-core members who eventually got sued back into the Stone Age by Morris Dees and the SPLC - Back when that org actually stood for something other than hate.
Neo-Nazis today? Mostly a figment of the Far-Left's imagination, cause they just call anyone who opposes them in any way, a Nazi. That's how ignorant the Far-Left has become. -
TurdBomber said:
There were Neo-Nazis robbing armored cars back in the 80s, preparing for their separate country in the PNW, dreaming of doing bad things to blacks and Jews, etc. The worst were a paramilitary offshoot of the Hayden Lake, ID group that at one point had a 100+ members. They were ex-military guys known as "The Order" led by Robert Mathews, until the ATF barbecued him inside a cabin on Whidbey Island. The most infamous act of that group was murdering a Jewish radio talk show host, Alan Berg, in Denver. There were some Central Cali Nazis run by Tom Metzger and his son that caused some trouble, attacked people in groups, and caused some mayhem. At it's peak in the late 80's, we used to see some younger Nazi skinheads causing trouble on Cap Hill and in the U District, mostly just looking stupid in their crew-cuts, wearing camouflage, yelling at people, and occasionally jumping somebody, but after a few of those groups got their asses beat on Broadway by a bunch of blacks and gays, they sort of disappeared back into the ether.Bendintheriver said:
A cousin/Vet actually moved away from the NW due to the treatment he was receiving at work and out in public. At times it was physical abuse but mostly verbal. Moved to Wyoming and has loved life ever since. All of the shit he took came from libs.LebamDawg said:As a Vet I have another basic gripe for me was that most of America seemed to hate anything to do with people in the military. I went years with no one even knowing I was a Vet. I did that because I got tired of everyone being so down on Vets.
It kind of turned around a little because of 9/11 -
but before that I had given up on the Liberal/Far Right side for spewing their hate - and seemed to be the extreme left of the dems and of course the fringe socialist parties, and the extreme right on the repubs and their neo-nazi gropus.
You mention neo-nazi's. Is there such a thing in the NW? I have never seen any neo-nazi's even when I was in politics. Never have ever seen them here in the SE. I know that there are some in the world and the lib media focuses on them as if they were a mainstream group which they aren't, but it sounds like you actually ran into some and I am curious where. This is a real question and I am not disagreeing with you at all. Just curious.
Turns out it's embarrassing to threaten and accost queers, and then get beaten into the ground by them.
I would guess at its peak, the PNW Neo-Nazi movement probably had 1500-2000 loosely affiliated members and about 100 - 200 hard-core members who eventually got sued back into the Stone Age by Morris Dees and the SPLC - Back when that org actually stood for something other than hate.
Neo-Nazis today? Posers, at best, but mostly a figment of the Far-Left's imagination. Anyone they disagree with is called a "Nazi." That's how fucking stupid and ignorant the far-Left has become. -
Was talking with my Colonel buddy the other day about the contractor who was killed to start the US response and he hoped that it was an actual defense contractor, ex military guy who got to carry a gun and was over there because he missed it, rather than some guy over there just cooking or cleaning toilets, because that would have made him feel a bit worse.
But then he recounted a story of when he was over in Afghanistan, and the contractor over there cleaning toilets was whistling while doing so, and he started a discussion with him. Guy said he was the happiest guy in the world, because he was getting paid by the government 100 grand a year to clean toilets.
So, there's that. CSB. -
The number of times I've thanked anyone for their service is zero.
They signed up, voluntarily, for a job for which they were paid, that presumable had benefits to them that out weighed the risks and costs.
Guys drafted deserve far more praise than those who sign up to get job skills or college money. -
You clearly know no one who has pride in his country and enlisted to protect it. Joining our military has very little benefits unless you stay for 20 years and then they are way less than you think they are.. Your perspective is pure ignorant bullshit. You should thank every veteran for their service.MikeDamone said:The number of times I've thanked anyone for their service is zero.
They signed up, voluntarily, for a job for which they were paid, that presumable had benefits to them that out weighed the risks and costs.
Guys drafted deserve far more praise than those who sign up to get job skills or college money.
I don't know how old you are or what your background is, but you need to appreciate the sacrifices our soldiers make. Virtually no on who has lost their life to ISIS or the Taliban was drafted.
Very disappointing that you think the way you do. -
Bullshit. You’re position is head in the sand rah rah pure bullshit. Very very few join for patriotic selfless reason. I know many. Most enlisted because it was their best option for education and training. I know guys in the special forces and those guys love the action, adventure and tough guy warrior shit. It’s a choice that most make weighing career and work options. Almost to a person. I know west point guys too. Same goes for them. They chose it, we all make choices and sacrifices.Bendintheriver said:
You clearly know no one who has pride in his country and enlisted to protect it. Joining our military has very little benefits unless you stay for 20 years and then they are way less than you think they are.. Your perspective is pure ignorant bullshit. You should thank every veteran for their service.MikeDamone said:The number of times I've thanked anyone for their service is zero.
They signed up, voluntarily, for a job for which they were paid, that presumable had benefits to them that out weighed the risks and costs.
Guys drafted deserve far more praise than those who sign up to get job skills or college money.
I don't know how old you are or what your background is, but you need to appreciate the sacrifices our soldiers make. Virtually no on who has lost their life to ISIS or the Taliban was drafted.
Very disappointing that you think the way you do.
I didn’t say anyone died fighting ISIS who was drafted. I said those who were drafted are in a different league when it comes to “thanking them for their service”
In fact, most of my veteran and active friends find the thank you for your service thing to be cliche, over blown and unnecessary. Over compensation for how the Vietnam guys were treated. -
RacistMikeDamone said:
Bullshit. You’re position is head in the sand rah rah pure bullshit. Very very few join for patriotic selfless reason. I know many. Most enlisted because it was their best option for education and training. I know guys in the special forces and those guys love the action, adventure and tough guy warrior shit. It’s a choice that most make weighing career and work options. Almost to a person. I know west point guys too. Same goes for them. They chose it, we all make choices and sacrifices.Bendintheriver said:
You clearly know no one who has pride in his country and enlisted to protect it. Joining our military has very little benefits unless you stay for 20 years and then they are way less than you think they are.. Your perspective is pure ignorant bullshit. You should thank every veteran for their service.MikeDamone said:The number of times I've thanked anyone for their service is zero.
They signed up, voluntarily, for a job for which they were paid, that presumable had benefits to them that out weighed the risks and costs.
Guys drafted deserve far more praise than those who sign up to get job skills or college money.
I don't know how old you are or what your background is, but you need to appreciate the sacrifices our soldiers make. Virtually no on who has lost their life to ISIS or the Taliban was drafted.
Very disappointing that you think the way you do. -
More of a bigot actually.Pitchfork51 said:
RacistMikeDamone said:
Bullshit. You’re position is head in the sand rah rah pure bullshit. Very very few join for patriotic selfless reason. I know many. Most enlisted because it was their best option for education and training. I know guys in the special forces and those guys love the action, adventure and tough guy warrior shit. It’s a choice that most make weighing career and work options. Almost to a person. I know west point guys too. Same goes for them. They chose it, we all make choices and sacrifices.Bendintheriver said:
You clearly know no one who has pride in his country and enlisted to protect it. Joining our military has very little benefits unless you stay for 20 years and then they are way less than you think they are.. Your perspective is pure ignorant bullshit. You should thank every veteran for their service.MikeDamone said:The number of times I've thanked anyone for their service is zero.
They signed up, voluntarily, for a job for which they were paid, that presumable had benefits to them that out weighed the risks and costs.
Guys drafted deserve far more praise than those who sign up to get job skills or college money.
I don't know how old you are or what your background is, but you need to appreciate the sacrifices our soldiers make. Virtually no on who has lost their life to ISIS or the Taliban was drafted.
Very disappointing that you think the way you do. -
BigotMikeDamone said:
More of a bigot actually.Pitchfork51 said:
RacistMikeDamone said:
Bullshit. You’re position is head in the sand rah rah pure bullshit. Very very few join for patriotic selfless reason. I know many. Most enlisted because it was their best option for education and training. I know guys in the special forces and those guys love the action, adventure and tough guy warrior shit. It’s a choice that most make weighing career and work options. Almost to a person. I know west point guys too. Same goes for them. They chose it, we all make choices and sacrifices.Bendintheriver said:
You clearly know no one who has pride in his country and enlisted to protect it. Joining our military has very little benefits unless you stay for 20 years and then they are way less than you think they are.. Your perspective is pure ignorant bullshit. You should thank every veteran for their service.MikeDamone said:The number of times I've thanked anyone for their service is zero.
They signed up, voluntarily, for a job for which they were paid, that presumable had benefits to them that out weighed the risks and costs.
Guys drafted deserve far more praise than those who sign up to get job skills or college money.
I don't know how old you are or what your background is, but you need to appreciate the sacrifices our soldiers make. Virtually no on who has lost their life to ISIS or the Taliban was drafted.
Very disappointing that you think the way you do.
