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    HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
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    dhdawg said:

    Swaye said:

    SFGbob said:

    It is very good that Trump took the off-ramp because he appears to realize how stupid and pointless a war with Iran would be. But without promise of sanctions relief for diplomacy everything is still on a knife’s edge. “Maximum pressure” has completely failed and now Iran says it will no longer abide the nuclear deal limits. He created an unnecessary crisis in the first place and now everyone wants to give him credit for pulling back at the last minute, yet there’s no sign that he understands that the hawkishness got him to this point in the first place.

    Go fuck yourself.
    No counterpoint, predictable from a “lightweight K*nt”. We’re still at the most precarious point in US-Iran relations in decades because of Trump’s policies.
    So what do you propose? Trumps gambit worked brilliantly. Do you prefer doing nothing and letting them get a nuclear weapon?
    Trump has made it more likely that they will get a nuclear weapon
    Bullshit
    The deal was working, “maximum pressure” was supposed to bring Iran back to the negotiating table for an unnecessarily stricter deal. It has failed by all measures and Iran is closer to the bomb now than it was when Obama left office.
    No they aren't

    The regime is closer to collapse and bankruptcy

    The deal was working for Iran which is why you liked it

    Just like the North Korea deal the democrats gave them and they ended up with nukes. Go figure

    Those of us that don't want a nuclear Iran and the destruction of Israel are glad. You aren't. Too bad

    Nobody is a dumb as the dumb fucking leftists that swallow this shit and expect us to as well
    The North Korea deal was canceled by Dubya during his first term because it wasn’t hawkish enough and then they tested their first nuclear weapon in 2006. Sound familiar?

    Yes the Iranian regime will collapse any day now, just like it has been for the last 40 years.
    Keep hope alive

    No one here said any day now. I said weakened

    NK was our fault too. Who had that in the pool?

    Tyrants mean what they say. People in democracies live in denial of that fact because we don't want war

    Iran wants to nuke Israel to bring on the Prophet. You can find Iranian mullahs in power who are happy to tell you that
    It’s a lesson that an imperfect but workable deal is better than hawkish maximalist demands that will lead to failure.

    Yes Iran is such an irrational actor, that’s why they chose a path of deescalation and offered Trump an off-ramp with the limited missile attack. Stellar analysis.
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    HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
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    Swaye said:

    SFGbob said:

    It is very good that Trump took the off-ramp because he appears to realize how stupid and pointless a war with Iran would be. But without promise of sanctions relief for diplomacy everything is still on a knife’s edge. “Maximum pressure” has completely failed and now Iran says it will no longer abide the nuclear deal limits. He created an unnecessary crisis in the first place and now everyone wants to give him credit for pulling back at the last minute, yet there’s no sign that he understands that the hawkishness got him to this point in the first place.

    Go fuck yourself.
    No counterpoint, predictable from a “lightweight K*nt”. We’re still at the most precarious point in US-Iran relations in decades because of Trump’s policies.
    So what do you propose? Trumps gambit worked brilliantly. Do you prefer doing nothing and letting them get a nuclear weapon?
    How did it work “brilliantly”. The Iranian people are more united behind their leadership now than before. Killing Soleimani may be a symbolic win but not a strategic win. He’s not irreplaceable.

    The nuclear deal was working but now it is on its last legs due entirely to Trump and we have to hope that Iran does not rush to the bomb. It looks like they probably won’t so far but do you feel comfortable with that?
    Are they now? You know this for a fact?
    Ah are you going to tell us that the millions of people who thronged the streets for the funeral procession were there because they were forced. Keep swallowing the Iran war lobby’s talking points.
    This has gotta be some kind of ad prop account or someone watching RT tv on repeat right?
    He only posts to support Iran on a Husky football website
    How dare anyone comment on the #1 news story in the world right now. I lurk the football board but don’t care to post.

    Better than posting in support of Donald Trump, a person who could not and will not ever give a shit about someone like you.
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    HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
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    A lot of people get paid by the government to show up in the streets. A lot of college and HS students also participate. Some go because of peer pressure. They don't want to look like non-believers or anti-government. You have to play the game and keep your nose clean if you don't want to be harassed by government goons.

    They also bus people in from outlying villages for these demonstrations. These people are mostly poor. Give them a little cash and feed them and you've got yourself a crowd.

    Yup... You keep a low profile and do as the Romans do. Otherwise, who knows what might happen to you.

    Just look at the number protesters who were mowed down last year. Incidentally, that's how the revolution started in 1978. Protesters were mowed down by soldiers.

    Eventually the soldiers don't want to kill protesters. They turn on the government. Armories get raided, because soldiers let the protesters in. Once the resistance gets a few weapons, things turn.

    The mullahs are in trouble and they know it.

    Ask me how I know.

    Yes yes they will greet us as liberators and all that.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,532
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    dhdawg said:

    Swaye said:

    SFGbob said:

    It is very good that Trump took the off-ramp because he appears to realize how stupid and pointless a war with Iran would be. But without promise of sanctions relief for diplomacy everything is still on a knife’s edge. “Maximum pressure” has completely failed and now Iran says it will no longer abide the nuclear deal limits. He created an unnecessary crisis in the first place and now everyone wants to give him credit for pulling back at the last minute, yet there’s no sign that he understands that the hawkishness got him to this point in the first place.

    Go fuck yourself.
    No counterpoint, predictable from a “lightweight K*nt”. We’re still at the most precarious point in US-Iran relations in decades because of Trump’s policies.
    So what do you propose? Trumps gambit worked brilliantly. Do you prefer doing nothing and letting them get a nuclear weapon?
    Trump has made it more likely that they will get a nuclear weapon
    Bullshit
    The deal was working, “maximum pressure” was supposed to bring Iran back to the negotiating table for an unnecessarily stricter deal. It has failed by all measures and Iran is closer to the bomb now than it was when Obama left office.
    No they aren't

    The regime is closer to collapse and bankruptcy

    The deal was working for Iran which is why you liked it

    Just like the North Korea deal the democrats gave them and they ended up with nukes. Go figure

    Those of us that don't want a nuclear Iran and the destruction of Israel are glad. You aren't. Too bad

    Nobody is a dumb as the dumb fucking leftists that swallow this shit and expect us to as well
    The North Korea deal was canceled by Dubya during his first term because it wasn’t hawkish enough and then they tested their first nuclear weapon in 2006. Sound familiar?

    Yes the Iranian regime will collapse any day now, just like it has been for the last 40 years.
    Keep hope alive

    No one here said any day now. I said weakened

    NK was our fault too. Who had that in the pool?

    Tyrants mean what they say. People in democracies live in denial of that fact because we don't want war

    Iran wants to nuke Israel to bring on the Prophet. You can find Iranian mullahs in power who are happy to tell you that
    It’s a lesson that an imperfect but workable deal is better than hawkish maximalist demands that will lead to failure.

    Yes Iran is such an irrational actor, that’s why they chose a path of deescalation and offered Trump an off-ramp with the limited missile attack. Stellar analysis.
    The lesson is that if the mullahs say they want a nuke to destroy Israel they want a nuke to destroy Israel

    and when they say Death to America they mean Death to America

    HTH
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    UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,274
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    A lot of people get paid by the government to show up in the streets. A lot of college and HS students also participate. Some go because of peer pressure. They don't want to look like non-believers or anti-government. You have to play the game and keep your nose clean if you don't want to be harassed by government goons.

    They also bus people in from outlying villages for these demonstrations. These people are mostly poor. Give them a little cash and feed them and you've got yourself a crowd.

    Yup... You keep a low profile and do as the Romans do. Otherwise, who knows what might happen to you.

    Just look at the number protesters who were mowed down last year. Incidentally, that's how the revolution started in 1978. Protesters were mowed down by soldiers.

    Eventually the soldiers don't want to kill protesters. They turn on the government. Armories get raided, because soldiers let the protesters in. Once the resistance gets a few weapons, things turn.

    The mullahs are in trouble and they know it.

    Ask me how I know.

    This was already covered in several places and in several threads ze's participated in but #narrative gotta #narrative regardless of the facts.
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    PurpleBazePurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 29,488
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    Swaye said:

    SFGbob said:

    It is very good that Trump took the off-ramp because he appears to realize how stupid and pointless a war with Iran would be. But without promise of sanctions relief for diplomacy everything is still on a knife’s edge. “Maximum pressure” has completely failed and now Iran says it will no longer abide the nuclear deal limits. He created an unnecessary crisis in the first place and now everyone wants to give him credit for pulling back at the last minute, yet there’s no sign that he understands that the hawkishness got him to this point in the first place.

    Go fuck yourself.
    No counterpoint, predictable from a “lightweight K*nt”. We’re still at the most precarious point in US-Iran relations in decades because of Trump’s policies.
    So what do you propose? Trumps gambit worked brilliantly. Do you prefer doing nothing and letting them get a nuclear weapon?
    How did it work “brilliantly”. The Iranian people are more united behind their leadership now than before. Killing Soleimani may be a symbolic win but not a strategic win. He’s not irreplaceable.

    The nuclear deal was working but now it is on its last legs due entirely to Trump and we have to hope that Iran does not rush to the bomb. It looks like they probably won’t so far but do you feel comfortable with that?
    Are they now? You know this for a fact?
    Ah are you going to tell us that the millions of people who thronged the streets for the funeral procession were there because they were forced. Keep swallowing the Iran war lobby’s talking points.
    This has gotta be some kind of ad prop account or someone watching RT tv on repeat right?
    He only posts to support Iran on a Husky football website
    How dare anyone comment on the #1 news story in the world right now. I lurk the football board but don’t care to post.

    Better than posting in support of Donald Trump, a person who could not and will not ever give a shit about someone like you.
    @pawz - This HC fella must be one of those people you were referencing the last time we saw each other at an HCH grabass event.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    Trump created an unnecessary crisis. Iran is now no longer abiding by the nuclear agreement and will move towards a nuclear weapon. The US has been expelled by Iraq and there is as of now no indication that we are actually leaving. This isn't over and we are far closer to war than we were just days ago, and way closer than we were when the JCPOA was established.

    How’s WWIII going?
    let's hope it never happens.
    You would love for trump to do something stupid like that. We all know it. It's looking like it's the only path to prevent his election is to start a war. Now that that's off the table it's time to try to make up something else.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,908
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    Swaye said:

    SFGbob said:

    It is very good that Trump took the off-ramp because he appears to realize how stupid and pointless a war with Iran would be. But without promise of sanctions relief for diplomacy everything is still on a knife’s edge. “Maximum pressure” has completely failed and now Iran says it will no longer abide the nuclear deal limits. He created an unnecessary crisis in the first place and now everyone wants to give him credit for pulling back at the last minute, yet there’s no sign that he understands that the hawkishness got him to this point in the first place.

    Go fuck yourself.
    No counterpoint, predictable from a “lightweight K*nt”. We’re still at the most precarious point in US-Iran relations in decades because of Trump’s policies.
    So what do you propose? Trumps gambit worked brilliantly. Do you prefer doing nothing and letting them get a nuclear weapon?
    How did it work “brilliantly”. The Iranian people are more united behind their leadership now than before. Killing Soleimani may be a symbolic win but not a strategic win. He’s not irreplaceable.

    The nuclear deal was working but now it is on its last legs due entirely to Trump and we have to hope that Iran does not rush to the bomb. It looks like they probably won’t so far but do you feel comfortable with that?
    Are they now? You know this for a fact?
    Ah are you going to tell us that the millions of people who thronged the streets for the funeral procession were there because they were forced. Keep swallowing the Iran war lobby’s talking points.
    This has gotta be some kind of ad prop account or someone watching RT tv on repeat right?
    He only posts to support Iran on a Husky football website
    But how fucked up must you be to always root for the enemy?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,532
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    Swaye said:

    SFGbob said:

    It is very good that Trump took the off-ramp because he appears to realize how stupid and pointless a war with Iran would be. But without promise of sanctions relief for diplomacy everything is still on a knife’s edge. “Maximum pressure” has completely failed and now Iran says it will no longer abide the nuclear deal limits. He created an unnecessary crisis in the first place and now everyone wants to give him credit for pulling back at the last minute, yet there’s no sign that he understands that the hawkishness got him to this point in the first place.

    Go fuck yourself.
    No counterpoint, predictable from a “lightweight K*nt”. We’re still at the most precarious point in US-Iran relations in decades because of Trump’s policies.
    So what do you propose? Trumps gambit worked brilliantly. Do you prefer doing nothing and letting them get a nuclear weapon?
    How did it work “brilliantly”. The Iranian people are more united behind their leadership now than before. Killing Soleimani may be a symbolic win but not a strategic win. He’s not irreplaceable.

    The nuclear deal was working but now it is on its last legs due entirely to Trump and we have to hope that Iran does not rush to the bomb. It looks like they probably won’t so far but do you feel comfortable with that?
    Are they now? You know this for a fact?
    Ah are you going to tell us that the millions of people who thronged the streets for the funeral procession were there because they were forced. Keep swallowing the Iran war lobby’s talking points.
    This has gotta be some kind of ad prop account or someone watching RT tv on repeat right?
    He only posts to support Iran on a Husky football website
    How dare anyone comment on the #1 news story in the world right now. I lurk the football board but don’t care to post.

    Better than posting in support of Donald Trump, a person who could not and will not ever give a shit about someone like you.
    By the way who in the fuck does give a fuck about someone like me?

    I have no beef with the Iranian people. No Iranian ever called me white trash
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    A lot of people get paid by the government to show up in the streets. A lot of college and HS students also participate. Some go because of peer pressure. They don't want to look like non-believers or anti-government. You have to play the game and keep your nose clean if you don't want to be harassed by government goons.

    They also bus people in from outlying villages for these demonstrations. These people are mostly poor. Give them a little cash and feed them and you've got yourself a crowd.

    Yup... You keep a low profile and do as the Romans do. Otherwise, who knows what might happen to you.

    Just look at the number protesters who were mowed down last year. Incidentally, that's how the revolution started in 1978. Protesters were mowed down by soldiers.

    Eventually the soldiers don't want to kill protesters. They turn on the government. Armories get raided, because soldiers let the protesters in. Once the resistance gets a few weapons, things turn.

    The mullahs are in trouble and they know it.

    Ask me how I know.

    Yes yes they will greet us as liberators and all that.
    Sit this one out, guy
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    It is very good that Trump took the off-ramp because he appears to realize how stupid and pointless a war with Iran would be. But without promise of sanctions relief for diplomacy everything is still on a knife’s edge. “Maximum pressure” has completely failed and now Iran says it will no longer abide the nuclear deal limits. He created an unnecessary crisis in the first place and now everyone wants to give him credit for pulling back at the last minute, yet there’s no sign that he understands that the hawkishness got him to this point in the first place.

    I knew the tug leftists would be disappointed that trump didn't start WWIII, I just didn't think it would be so soon.
    They really wanted a bunch of dead Americans so that they could blame Trump.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,203
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    SFGbob said:

    Any admissions of embarrassment or shame or apologies to the rest of us who weren't sharing in their hysteria?

    https://www.paul.senate.gov/CONNECT/EMAIL-RAND
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,908
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    MSNBC supposedly reported 30 Americans killed in the missile attacks even though the pentagon had said there were no casualties.

    Fake news.
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