Dem debate

ThomasFremont said:

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MikeDamone said:

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ThomasFremont said:

MikeDamone said:

Swaye said:

ThomasFremont said:

Swaye said:

Yang is the only one left with any clue at all about anything. I wouldn't vote for him, but I can at least respect him. The rest is a fucking dumpster fire of epic proportions.

Why not vote for him? Just wondering what you don’t like.

Because you asked so nicely, and I am ride or die with you, here is the answer that I just pulled right off Yang's website. I am sure there are numerous other items that I do not agree with, but this right here is more than enough for me (I bolded the ones I find particularly onerous but almost all of it sucks):

As President, I will...

Close the gun show and Charleston loopholes, requiring all gun sales and most transfers to have a background check run and completed.
Implement a purchase limit (rate, not total) on all firearms.
Implement a federal cooling-off period to decrease the incidence of suicide and impulsive crime.
Promote a stringent licensing system, with a 5-year renewal requirement, for gun ownership.
Anyone desiring a license would need to:
Go through a federal background check.
Anyone with a history of violence, domestic abuse, or violent mental illness would not be allowed to hold a license.
Interview with a federal agent, who has limited discretion on granting the license.
Pass a basic hunting or firearm safety class.
Provide a receipt for an appropriately-sized gun locker, or trigger locks (tax deductible).
Individual states will determine their concealed carry/open carry laws, and reciprocity will not be federally enforced.
Create a clear definition of “assault weapon”, and prevent their manufacture and sale.
Prohibit the manufacture and sale of bump stocks, suppressors, incendiary/exploding ammunition, and grenade launcher attachments, and other accessories that alter functionality in a way that increases their firing rate or impact.
Automatically confiscate any weapon that has been modified in a way as to increase its ammunition capacity, firing rate, or impact.
Create an agency tasked with monitoring gun manufacturing developments and addressing “design-arounds” as they arise.
Renew a ban on Large Capacity Ammo Feeding Devices (LCAFDs) and after-market non-standard large capacity magazines.
Pass a federal gun transportation law that will require people to transport guns unloaded and locked in a storage safe.
Increase liability for individuals who sell guns illegally that are used to commit a crime.
Form a commission to study the development of 3D printing technology to see ways we can minimize the risk of this technology in perpetuating gun violence.
Maintain current restrictions on and definitions of automatic weaponry.
Stridently enforce importation restrictions on weapons and accessories.
Create federal safety guidelines for gun manufacture and distribution, similar to federal car safety requirements, with strict penalties for the violation of these guidelines.
Use tax incentives to encourage gun manufacturers to implement designs that prevent interchanging parts that alter the functionality of the firearm.
Repeal laws that shield gun manufacturers from liability.
Invest in personalized gun technology that makes it difficult or impossible for someone other than a gun’s owner to fire it, and ensure that they’re for sale on the marketplace.
Provide a tax credit for the full value of upgrading a gun to use these systems, or work through the buyback program to allow “trades” of non-personalized guns to personalized ones.
Implement a federal buyback program for anyone who wants to voluntarily give up their firearm.
As stated here, invest in a more robust mental health infrastructure. This will help to identify and treat people with mental health illnesses that make them prone to suicide.
Increase funding to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, and drastically increase funding to the US Department of Veterans Affairs Suicide Prevention efforts.
Direct the CDC to research gun violence, and reject any budget deal that includes the Dickey Amendment.
Require all locations where guns are sold to display information on how to receive mental health treatment or reach suicide crisis hotlines.
Initiate and fund mindfulness programs in schools and correctional facilities, which have been demonstrated to reduce violent behavior.
Invest heavily in law enforcement training to de-escalate situations involving firearms, and provide funding to programs that involve mental health professionals in de-escalation situations.

Exactly. Non of that would would move the needle on gun violence. Just make normal people jump through more hoops.

What is your solution? You speak definitely that it won’t help. But until we try I don’t know that we can say that with such certainty.

I’m open to ideas, and the reason I support him is that I think he is too.

I don’t have one. I’m not running for office. But that doesn’t preclude me from knowing that yangs shit is fucking stupid.

Like I said. Leftists fuck up everything they touch. This will be one of them.

But we have to DO SOMETHING!!!

I contend he won’t actually do anything with guns.

What now?

They'll try. You claim not to be a commie and say you're voting commie in the next breath.

You come get mine. Deal?

Congratulations, you’ve used that word to the point that it has lost all meaning.

And if I was coming for yours, I’d bring mine. Wanna sword fight???

Bring all the knives you want to the gunfight. Intelligent choice.

That was a dick measuring metaphor.

Spoiler alert: you lose.

You need a dick to measure.

I've measured mine on a number of occasions. I'm still here. Give it a whirl stud.

What method do you use?

Combat. You know someone doesn't want to go to jail. They run, resist, fight, some try and kill you.

Let me know how you do.

I prefer center of the anus twice around the balls and just past the tip.

I didn't know you lived in West Hollywood.

Huh?

West Hollywood. Look it up.

Speak plainly.

You're a fag.

Whoosh confirmed.

You're not good at this. Probably just like everything else in your life.

Dude, you didn’t get the joke because you’re too busy being a TUFF guy.

Calling people a fag. Now THAT is hilarious. Where do you come up with such original and insightful comments?

When you post about you licking dick and ass it's easy. Figured you're just coming out of the closet on here. It's ok we won't judge.

Fucking queer.

BURN!

You couldn’t handle it you little bottom bitch.

No I'm normal. Like girls. Married one. Like my kids. Thank God you can't reproduce.

Sounds like a classic beard situation. Deep cover *wink* *wink*

Don’t worry, I won’t tell the Mrs.

Didn't I arrest you some years ago out of a video both at the adult book store? You remember. You and that other guy were doing disgusting stuff?

You cried a lot?

Ring any bells?

Tip toeing into PLSS homoerotic fantasy territory. Sounds like I called it.

Bendintheriver said:

incremetal_progress said:

CuntWaffle said:

It's so entertaining watch the Dems shoot themselves in the foot. They are benching their best players a batting their worst in the 1,2,3 slots in their lineup. 2020 election night Twitter meltdown is going to be great. The SJW groupthink tank on that thinks they already have it won, hell, half think Trump is already gone because he got impeached.

the 2 candidates who consistently beat trump in head to head polling, sanders and biden, are currently 1 and 2 in the polls. So your point is really not a good one.

Not sure who you are reading these days but you need to catch up. Biden and Bernie aren't polling ahead of Trump, it is just the opposite. And this all comes during the rats brilliant move of impeachment at all cost. It renews some faith in the American people. The rats said they were going to impeach Trump before he even took office and have voted 4 times internally whether to impeach or not. When the impeachment finally happened it looked just and rigged and contrived as it was and many were turned off by the rats blatant attempt to take away the rights of 63 million voters, that idiot biden and the screeching socialists slid behind in the polls..

Polls this early are worthless by the way.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/12/16/trump-impeachment-2020-election-leads-democratic-rivals/2663659001/

ThomasFremont said:

MikeDamone said:

Swaye said:

ThomasFremont said:

Swaye said:

Yang is the only one left with any clue at all about anything. I wouldn't vote for him, but I can at least respect him. The rest is a fucking dumpster fire of epic proportions.

Why not vote for him? Just wondering what you don’t like.

Because you asked so nicely, and I am ride or die with you, here is the answer that I just pulled right off Yang's website. I am sure there are numerous other items that I do not agree with, but this right here is more than enough for me (I bolded the ones I find particularly onerous but almost all of it sucks):

As President, I will...

Close the gun show and Charleston loopholes, requiring all gun sales and most transfers to have a background check run and completed.
Implement a purchase limit (rate, not total) on all firearms.
Implement a federal cooling-off period to decrease the incidence of suicide and impulsive crime.
Promote a stringent licensing system, with a 5-year renewal requirement, for gun ownership.
Anyone desiring a license would need to:
Go through a federal background check.
Anyone with a history of violence, domestic abuse, or violent mental illness would not be allowed to hold a license.
Interview with a federal agent, who has limited discretion on granting the license.
Pass a basic hunting or firearm safety class.
Provide a receipt for an appropriately-sized gun locker, or trigger locks (tax deductible).
Individual states will determine their concealed carry/open carry laws, and reciprocity will not be federally enforced.
Create a clear definition of “assault weapon”, and prevent their manufacture and sale.
Prohibit the manufacture and sale of bump stocks, suppressors, incendiary/exploding ammunition, and grenade launcher attachments, and other accessories that alter functionality in a way that increases their firing rate or impact.
Automatically confiscate any weapon that has been modified in a way as to increase its ammunition capacity, firing rate, or impact.
Create an agency tasked with monitoring gun manufacturing developments and addressing “design-arounds” as they arise.
Renew a ban on Large Capacity Ammo Feeding Devices (LCAFDs) and after-market non-standard large capacity magazines.
Pass a federal gun transportation law that will require people to transport guns unloaded and locked in a storage safe.
Increase liability for individuals who sell guns illegally that are used to commit a crime.
Form a commission to study the development of 3D printing technology to see ways we can minimize the risk of this technology in perpetuating gun violence.
Maintain current restrictions on and definitions of automatic weaponry.
Stridently enforce importation restrictions on weapons and accessories.
Create federal safety guidelines for gun manufacture and distribution, similar to federal car safety requirements, with strict penalties for the violation of these guidelines.
Use tax incentives to encourage gun manufacturers to implement designs that prevent interchanging parts that alter the functionality of the firearm.
Repeal laws that shield gun manufacturers from liability.
Invest in personalized gun technology that makes it difficult or impossible for someone other than a gun’s owner to fire it, and ensure that they’re for sale on the marketplace.
Provide a tax credit for the full value of upgrading a gun to use these systems, or work through the buyback program to allow “trades” of non-personalized guns to personalized ones.
Implement a federal buyback program for anyone who wants to voluntarily give up their firearm.
As stated here, invest in a more robust mental health infrastructure. This will help to identify and treat people with mental health illnesses that make them prone to suicide.
Increase funding to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, and drastically increase funding to the US Department of Veterans Affairs Suicide Prevention efforts.
Direct the CDC to research gun violence, and reject any budget deal that includes the Dickey Amendment.
Require all locations where guns are sold to display information on how to receive mental health treatment or reach suicide crisis hotlines.
Initiate and fund mindfulness programs in schools and correctional facilities, which have been demonstrated to reduce violent behavior.
Invest heavily in law enforcement training to de-escalate situations involving firearms, and provide funding to programs that involve mental health professionals in de-escalation situations.

Exactly. Non of that would would move the needle on gun violence. Just make normal people jump through more hoops.

What is your solution? You speak definitely that it won’t help. But until we try I don’t know that we can say that with such certainty.

I’m open to ideas, and the reason I support him is that I think he is too.

salemcoog said:

ThomasFremont said:

MikeDamone said:

Swaye said:

ThomasFremont said:

Swaye said:

Yang is the only one left with any clue at all about anything. I wouldn't vote for him, but I can at least respect him. The rest is a fucking dumpster fire of epic proportions.

Why not vote for him? Just wondering what you don’t like.

Because you asked so nicely, and I am ride or die with you, here is the answer that I just pulled right off Yang's website. I am sure there are numerous other items that I do not agree with, but this right here is more than enough for me (I bolded the ones I find particularly onerous but almost all of it sucks):

As President, I will...

Close the gun show and Charleston loopholes, requiring all gun sales and most transfers to have a background check run and completed.
Implement a purchase limit (rate, not total) on all firearms.
Implement a federal cooling-off period to decrease the incidence of suicide and impulsive crime.
Promote a stringent licensing system, with a 5-year renewal requirement, for gun ownership.
Anyone desiring a license would need to:
Go through a federal background check.
Anyone with a history of violence, domestic abuse, or violent mental illness would not be allowed to hold a license.
Interview with a federal agent, who has limited discretion on granting the license.
Pass a basic hunting or firearm safety class.
Provide a receipt for an appropriately-sized gun locker, or trigger locks (tax deductible).
Individual states will determine their concealed carry/open carry laws, and reciprocity will not be federally enforced.
Create a clear definition of “assault weapon”, and prevent their manufacture and sale.
Prohibit the manufacture and sale of bump stocks, suppressors, incendiary/exploding ammunition, and grenade launcher attachments, and other accessories that alter functionality in a way that increases their firing rate or impact.
Automatically confiscate any weapon that has been modified in a way as to increase its ammunition capacity, firing rate, or impact.
Create an agency tasked with monitoring gun manufacturing developments and addressing “design-arounds” as they arise.
Renew a ban on Large Capacity Ammo Feeding Devices (LCAFDs) and after-market non-standard large capacity magazines.
Pass a federal gun transportation law that will require people to transport guns unloaded and locked in a storage safe.
Increase liability for individuals who sell guns illegally that are used to commit a crime.
Form a commission to study the development of 3D printing technology to see ways we can minimize the risk of this technology in perpetuating gun violence.
Maintain current restrictions on and definitions of automatic weaponry.
Stridently enforce importation restrictions on weapons and accessories.
Create federal safety guidelines for gun manufacture and distribution, similar to federal car safety requirements, with strict penalties for the violation of these guidelines.
Use tax incentives to encourage gun manufacturers to implement designs that prevent interchanging parts that alter the functionality of the firearm.
Repeal laws that shield gun manufacturers from liability.
Invest in personalized gun technology that makes it difficult or impossible for someone other than a gun’s owner to fire it, and ensure that they’re for sale on the marketplace.
Provide a tax credit for the full value of upgrading a gun to use these systems, or work through the buyback program to allow “trades” of non-personalized guns to personalized ones.
Implement a federal buyback program for anyone who wants to voluntarily give up their firearm.
As stated here, invest in a more robust mental health infrastructure. This will help to identify and treat people with mental health illnesses that make them prone to suicide.
Increase funding to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, and drastically increase funding to the US Department of Veterans Affairs Suicide Prevention efforts.
Direct the CDC to research gun violence, and reject any budget deal that includes the Dickey Amendment.
Require all locations where guns are sold to display information on how to receive mental health treatment or reach suicide crisis hotlines.
Initiate and fund mindfulness programs in schools and correctional facilities, which have been demonstrated to reduce violent behavior.
Invest heavily in law enforcement training to de-escalate situations involving firearms, and provide funding to programs that involve mental health professionals in de-escalation situations.

Exactly. Non of that would would move the needle on gun violence. Just make normal people jump through more hoops.

What is your solution? You speak definitely that it won’t help. But until we try I don’t know that we can say that with such certainty.

I’m open to ideas, and the reason I support him is that I think he is too.

It’s old. It’s tired. But it’s fact that most of the areas with the most gun restrictive laws also have the most gun violence. Background checks are standard fare in most areas already.

I would trade vague definition and banning of “assault weapons” for a chain of custody law to make more gun owners take steps to secure their weapons so that their crazy kids and family members would have less chance of sneaking a gun out of the closet and blowing away innocents.

That’s an after the fact solution, I know. But when somebody’s buddy/family member goes to prison for allowing their gun to leave the house to commit a crime. People would take much better care to lock up their guns.

salemcoog said:

Sledog said:

salemcoog said:

ThomasFremont said:

MikeDamone said:

Swaye said:

ThomasFremont said:

Swaye said:

Yang is the only one left with any clue at all about anything. I wouldn't vote for him, but I can at least respect him. The rest is a fucking dumpster fire of epic proportions.

Why not vote for him? Just wondering what you don’t like.

Because you asked so nicely, and I am ride or die with you, here is the answer that I just pulled right off Yang's website. I am sure there are numerous other items that I do not agree with, but this right here is more than enough for me (I bolded the ones I find particularly onerous but almost all of it sucks):

As President, I will...

Close the gun show and Charleston loopholes, requiring all gun sales and most transfers to have a background check run and completed.
Implement a purchase limit (rate, not total) on all firearms.
Implement a federal cooling-off period to decrease the incidence of suicide and impulsive crime.
Promote a stringent licensing system, with a 5-year renewal requirement, for gun ownership.
Anyone desiring a license would need to:
Go through a federal background check.
Anyone with a history of violence, domestic abuse, or violent mental illness would not be allowed to hold a license.
Interview with a federal agent, who has limited discretion on granting the license.
Pass a basic hunting or firearm safety class.
Provide a receipt for an appropriately-sized gun locker, or trigger locks (tax deductible).
Individual states will determine their concealed carry/open carry laws, and reciprocity will not be federally enforced.
Create a clear definition of “assault weapon”, and prevent their manufacture and sale.
Prohibit the manufacture and sale of bump stocks, suppressors, incendiary/exploding ammunition, and grenade launcher attachments, and other accessories that alter functionality in a way that increases their firing rate or impact.
Automatically confiscate any weapon that has been modified in a way as to increase its ammunition capacity, firing rate, or impact.
Create an agency tasked with monitoring gun manufacturing developments and addressing “design-arounds” as they arise.
Renew a ban on Large Capacity Ammo Feeding Devices (LCAFDs) and after-market non-standard large capacity magazines.
Pass a federal gun transportation law that will require people to transport guns unloaded and locked in a storage safe.
Increase liability for individuals who sell guns illegally that are used to commit a crime.
Form a commission to study the development of 3D printing technology to see ways we can minimize the risk of this technology in perpetuating gun violence.
Maintain current restrictions on and definitions of automatic weaponry.
Stridently enforce importation restrictions on weapons and accessories.
Create federal safety guidelines for gun manufacture and distribution, similar to federal car safety requirements, with strict penalties for the violation of these guidelines.
Use tax incentives to encourage gun manufacturers to implement designs that prevent interchanging parts that alter the functionality of the firearm.
Repeal laws that shield gun manufacturers from liability.
Invest in personalized gun technology that makes it difficult or impossible for someone other than a gun’s owner to fire it, and ensure that they’re for sale on the marketplace.
Provide a tax credit for the full value of upgrading a gun to use these systems, or work through the buyback program to allow “trades” of non-personalized guns to personalized ones.
Implement a federal buyback program for anyone who wants to voluntarily give up their firearm.
As stated here, invest in a more robust mental health infrastructure. This will help to identify and treat people with mental health illnesses that make them prone to suicide.
Increase funding to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, and drastically increase funding to the US Department of Veterans Affairs Suicide Prevention efforts.
Direct the CDC to research gun violence, and reject any budget deal that includes the Dickey Amendment.
Require all locations where guns are sold to display information on how to receive mental health treatment or reach suicide crisis hotlines.
Initiate and fund mindfulness programs in schools and correctional facilities, which have been demonstrated to reduce violent behavior.
Invest heavily in law enforcement training to de-escalate situations involving firearms, and provide funding to programs that involve mental health professionals in de-escalation situations.

Exactly. Non of that would would move the needle on gun violence. Just make normal people jump through more hoops.

What is your solution? You speak definitely that it won’t help. But until we try I don’t know that we can say that with such certainty.

I’m open to ideas, and the reason I support him is that I think he is too.

It’s old. It’s tired. But it’s fact that most of the areas with the most gun restrictive laws also have the most gun violence. Background checks are standard fare in most areas already.

I would trade vague definition and banning of “assault weapons” for a chain of custody law to make more gun owners take steps to secure their weapons so that their crazy kids and family members would have less chance of sneaking a gun out of the closet and blowing away innocents.

That’s an after the fact solution, I know. But when somebody’s buddy/family member goes to prison for allowing their gun to leave the house to commit a crime. People would take much better care to lock up their guns.

So you wish to punish people who were the victims or crime? You applying this same principal to knives, clubs, bats, crowbars, pointy sticks, automobiles or anything else used in crimes against persons?

It takes a special kind of person to want to jail people for being a victim. Let's punish the criminals of all classes. The left has decriminalized crime and now want to blame the victims of crime. That takes some massive mental gymnastics.

Also apply all the requirements for gun purchase to voting and personal identification. Let's see rats back some common sense voter fraud laws.

How is punishing the owner of a weapon who let someone else in his household get it and commit a crime, punishing the victim?