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Paying College Players and Unionization

Tequilla
Tequilla Member Posts: 20,234
This continues to be a big story given last week's decision surrounding Northwestern and also with the NCAA Tournament going on and all the money that the NCAA gets through TV rights deals and whatnot.

I think we all agree that increasing the stipend for all players to reflect the realities of playing sports (unable to really get an external job, cost of living, etc).

However, a few things that most people haven't talked about are as follows:

1) How much are the players currently getting paid through their education (and I realize that a lot of kids poo poo on that but getting a college education paid for without any debt associated with it is a significant advantage in life)

2) What is the comparable wages paid in the market for that level of experience (for example, taking basketball players, guys in the D-League make $30-$40k and often have college plus professional experience that "in theory" makes the caliber of play better ... likewise for baseball, kids in the minor leagues make $1k per month or less at the lowest levels)

3) How "valuable" is the training that these kids are receiving on the open market place? If you're going to go one way on saying that the kids deserve more money, you also have to be willing to go other ways to "charge" for the costs that they are incurring.

I know that this is too fucking serious of a poast on April Fool's Day, but there's been a lot about this topic that hasn't sit right with me for a while. Wonder what the thoughts of are others other than "fuck you," TL, DR, and disagree.
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  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,348
    Fuck you. TL, DR. Disagree
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    I don't agree. Not at all. I like College sports and it will be a shame to see them all disappear. That said, this is one lone Obama "I hate football" appointee's announcement, nothing more
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Instead of reading Tequilla's TL, DR bullshit, I propose this:

    Eliminate all restrictions on outside income for college employee-athletes.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,234

    Instead of reading Tequilla's TL, DR bullshit, I propose this:

    Eliminate all restrictions on outside income for college employee-athletes.

    So basically everybody gets a lifetime endorsement deal from Nike to come play for the University of Oregon.

    Yep, that's the solution to all of this.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    Instead of reading Tequilla's TL, DR bullshit, I propose this:

    Eliminate all restrictions on outside income for college employee-athletes.

    So basically everybody gets a lifetime endorsement deal from Nike to come play for the University of Oregon.

    Yep, that's the solution to all of this.
    Why do you hate the free market?
  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,348

    Tequilla said:

    Instead of reading Tequilla's TL, DR bullshit, I propose this:

    Eliminate all restrictions on outside income for college employee-athletes.

    So basically everybody gets a lifetime endorsement deal from Nike to come play for the University of Oregon.

    Yep, that's the solution to all of this.
    Why do you hate the free market?
    Teqommie!
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,234
    I don't hate the free market. But this isn't the free market as some have competitive advantages that others don't have (see Oregon - Nike) while other places will just throw money around from it's alumni in what will turn into a big dick measuring contest.

    I'm all for players getting paid and allowed to live normal college lives because not all can at this point. But let's not make kids millionaires for being a great HS athlete ... that's super fucktarded.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Tequilla said:

    I don't hate the free market. But this isn't the free market as some have competitive advantages that others don't have (see Oregon - Nike) while other places will just throw money around from it's alumni in what will turn into a big dick measuring contest.

    I'm all for players getting paid and allowed to live normal college lives because not all can at this point. But let's not make kids millionaires for being a great HS athlete ... that's super fucktarded.

    Actually that's exactly like the free market. Some employers have advantages other employers don't have, and attract better employees because of it.

    There's an argument that the free market's not the best thing for the sport (and I would probably agree), but it's certainly the free market at work.

  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    I don't hate the free market. But this isn't the free market as some have competitive advantages that others don't have (see Oregon - Nike) while other places will just throw money around from it's alumni in what will turn into a big dick measuring contest.

    I'm all for players getting paid and allowed to live normal college lives because not all can at this point. But let's not make kids millionaires for being a great HS athlete ... that's super fucktarded.

    I like to be Tequilla fucking stupid by saying I don't hate the free market then post a rant that is all about hating the free market.

    By the way, kids in basketball, baseball, hockey, and soccer can become millionaires while they are still teenagers. Why should football be different and why should the NCAA be allowed to restrain what sorts of outside income players can earn?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited April 2014

    Instead of reading Tequilla's TL, DR bullshit, I propose this:

    Eliminate all restrictions on outside income for college employee-athletes.

    Remove all sports from college and have the pro leagues start and fund their own farm leagues. Pay everyone what they are worth and stop all this "student " athlete charade bullish it. If you want to go to college,work to become college material. If you want to go pro in a sport,,work on that and get busy trying to get a spot on a roster.

    FYFMFE