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When was the last time Clemson had 0 Dline in a class?
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  • sonics1993
    sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460
    Compare the talent in the south to the west, that's why we will never be Clemson.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    sonics1993 said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    sonics1993 said:

    Compare the talent in the south to the west, that's why we will never be Clemson.

    There is no reason we can’t have top 10 classes, but there are so many more players to pull in the South than the West Coast. It’s not an excuse, it’s a reality.
    For UW to have a top 10 class they need to have the best instate class ever and they need to land every single one of them along with hitting most of there other targets. In the south, you can miss a lot more since theres so much talent. Plus USC needs to be terrible because if USC is on then you can forget about it.
    Yep, a really good in state class along with a couple really high 4 star/5 star guys from Cali and it can be done.
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327
    RoadDawg55 said:

    sonics1993 said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    sonics1993 said:

    Compare the talent in the south to the west, that's why we will never be Clemson.

    There is no reason we can’t have top 10 classes, but there are so many more players to pull in the South than the West Coast. It’s not an excuse, it’s a reality.
    For UW to have a top 10 class they need to have the best instate class ever and they need to land every single one of them along with hitting most of there other targets. In the south, you can miss a lot more since theres so much talent. Plus USC needs to be terrible because if USC is on then you can forget about it.
    Yep, a really good in state class along with a couple really high 4 star/5 star guys from Cali and it can be done.
    Last year plus stephon Wright and Kyle Ford is not that far off.
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  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,501
    AtomicDawg said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    sonics1993 said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    sonics1993 said:

    Compare the talent in the south to the west, that's why we will never be Clemson.

    There is no reason we can’t have top 10 classes, but there are so many more players to pull in the South than the West Coast. It’s not an excuse, it’s a reality.
    For UW to have a top 10 class they need to have the best instate class ever and they need to land every single one of them along with hitting most of there other targets. In the south, you can miss a lot more since theres so much talent. Plus USC needs to be terrible because if USC is on then you can forget about it.
    Yep, a really good in state class along with a couple really high 4 star/5 star guys from Cali and it can be done.
    Last year plus stephon Wright and Kyle Ford is not that far off.
    Or this year if we had offered Gee Scott early, taken DJ Rodgers and Banks, and had taken Levi over Peacock.
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  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
    edited December 2019
    AtomicDawg said:

    If you go by just 247 rankings last year was a top 10 class. The year before was 13. This year could be in the top 10 or slide just outside.

    And next year's class will be the greatest recruiting class in the history of the galaxy lol hth
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  • Beno4Life
    Beno4Life Member Posts: 533
    Need Gee, Ringo, Carlton, Yary (not West), and a Flowe/Sewell (not McDonald).

    You take high 3-stars and local studs like Esteen, Sawyer, and Bruener. But not middle-tier 3-stars like Smith, McDonald, and I hate to say Sunday cause I’m liking the kids story and how he plays with aggression, a la Dick, but yeah.
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  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,206 Standard Supporter
    Eh, UW had what, six 4 star OL/DL last year?
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  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,206 Standard Supporter
    edited December 2019
    RaceBannon said:


    And now we have Oregon to contend with

    Now?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,705 Founders Club
    dtd said:

    RaceBannon said:


    And now we have Oregon to contend with

    Now?
    Did I stutter?

    Brooks was three years away from the 17 year plan to lose the Rose Bowl

    We did not have to contend with Oregon in recruiting
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  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,206 Standard Supporter
    RaceBannon said:

    dtd said:

    RaceBannon said:


    And now we have Oregon to contend with

    Now?
    Did I stutter?

    Brooks was three years away from the 17 year plan to lose the Rose Bowl

    We did not have to contend with Oregon in recruiting
    Or with being limited to 85 scholarships.
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327
    RaceBannon said:

    dtd said:

    RaceBannon said:


    And now we have Oregon to contend with

    Now?
    Did I stutter?

    Brooks was three years away from the 17 year plan to lose the Rose Bowl

    We did not have to contend with Oregon in recruiting
    UCLA tried back then so whatever. There’s always an excuse. Fifo or get out the way.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,705 Founders Club
    AtomicDawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    dtd said:

    RaceBannon said:


    And now we have Oregon to contend with

    Now?
    Did I stutter?

    Brooks was three years away from the 17 year plan to lose the Rose Bowl

    We did not have to contend with Oregon in recruiting
    UCLA tried back then so whatever. There’s always an excuse. Fifo or get out the way.
    Agree
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,705 Founders Club
    dtd said:

    RaceBannon said:

    dtd said:

    RaceBannon said:


    And now we have Oregon to contend with

    Now?
    Did I stutter?

    Brooks was three years away from the 17 year plan to lose the Rose Bowl

    We did not have to contend with Oregon in recruiting
    Or with being limited to 85 scholarships.
    There's the quook

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  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,206 Standard Supporter
    edited December 2019
    RaceBannon said:

    dtd said:

    RaceBannon said:

    dtd said:

    RaceBannon said:


    And now we have Oregon to contend with

    Now?
    Did I stutter?

    Brooks was three years away from the 17 year plan to lose the Rose Bowl

    We did not have to contend with Oregon in recruiting
    Or with being limited to 85 scholarships.
    There's the quook

    Not really. Clearly 85 leveled the playing field that UW was somewhat dominating. But it's been 25 fucking years, Race. Which program has a better record in the last THIRTY years? It's Oregon. And yeah, fuck '84 BYU. Was Kelee Ringo's mom even born yet? I get that you're you, but JFC, the context of everything CFB doesn't need to go back to Sonny Sixkiller to be valid.
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  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,263
    sonics1993 said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    sonics1993 said:

    Compare the talent in the south to the west, that's why we will never be Clemson.

    There is no reason we can’t have top 10 classes, but there are so many more players to pull in the South than the West Coast. It’s not an excuse, it’s a reality.
    For UW to have a top 10 class they need to have the best instate class ever and they need to land every single one of them along with hitting most of there other targets. In the south, you can miss a lot more since theres so much talent. Plus USC needs to be terrible because if USC is on then you can forget about it.

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  • sonics1993
    sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460
    Canadawg said:

    sonics1993 said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    sonics1993 said:

    Compare the talent in the south to the west, that's why we will never be Clemson.

    There is no reason we can’t have top 10 classes, but there are so many more players to pull in the South than the West Coast. It’s not an excuse, it’s a reality.
    For UW to have a top 10 class they need to have the best instate class ever and they need to land every single one of them along with hitting most of there other targets. In the south, you can miss a lot more since theres so much talent. Plus USC needs to be terrible because if USC is on then you can forget about it.

    Great, a day before the early signing day that had a top ten class. By February this class will be in the mid to late teens.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    This thread is fucking stupid ... and the usual cast of idiots are nowhere to be found

    GTFO with this settling excise making BS

    This is a strong class in a number of ways ...

    UW will never out recruit the true blue bloods ... shitty metric to measure against

    The key is can we get enough talent and then put the pieces together in a way that the sum is maximized

    Sick and tired of loser mindsets
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    I take recruiting ranking with a grain of salt ... there’s a bare minimum that you need to be at the table

    After that, it’s all about what you do when you get them on campus

    We are entering the territory you need ... you don’t play 85 players per game

    We have never landed a class at the top tier nationally ... expecting us to do so as a sign of success is bound for disappointment. Aspirational goal ... absolutely.

    The discussion in this thread is Top 10 ... it’s completely arbitrary. But when you separate and normalize the gaps in this range with the next handful of teams on either side what you find is comparable results. In that light ... there’s enough there to compete at the highest levels,


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  • sonics1993
    sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460
    edited December 2019
    Canadawg said:

    sonics1993 said:

    Canadawg said:

    sonics1993 said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    sonics1993 said:

    Compare the talent in the south to the west, that's why we will never be Clemson.

    There is no reason we can’t have top 10 classes, but there are so many more players to pull in the South than the West Coast. It’s not an excuse, it’s a reality.
    For UW to have a top 10 class they need to have the best instate class ever and they need to land every single one of them along with hitting most of there other targets. In the south, you can miss a lot more since theres so much talent. Plus USC needs to be terrible because if USC is on then you can forget about it.

    Great, a day before the early signing day that had a top ten class. By February this class will be in the mid to late teens.
    You may be right but saying they need a perfect class to get top 10 is a stretch. If they landed Ringo it would probably be there. Not far off
    That's true but you have to remember that USC is dead right now in terms of recruiting. That's only going to last one more year and once they get rid of Clay, they will wake up and start getting the majority of the talent out west. That's when recruiting will get real tough.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Canadawg said:

    sonics1993 said:

    Canadawg said:

    sonics1993 said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    sonics1993 said:

    Compare the talent in the south to the west, that's why we will never be Clemson.

    There is no reason we can’t have top 10 classes, but there are so many more players to pull in the South than the West Coast. It’s not an excuse, it’s a reality.
    For UW to have a top 10 class they need to have the best instate class ever and they need to land every single one of them along with hitting most of there other targets. In the south, you can miss a lot more since theres so much talent. Plus USC needs to be terrible because if USC is on then you can forget about it.

    Great, a day before the early signing day that had a top ten class. By February this class will be in the mid to late teens.
    You may be right but saying they need a perfect class to get top 10 is a stretch. If they landed Ringo it would probably be there. Not far off
    And on top of that, what’s the right metric to measure against? Points? Avg rating? Avg rating excluding kickers?

    It’s just not something to get worked up about
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  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,206 Standard Supporter
    Tequilla said:

    This thread is fucking stupid ... and the usual cast of idiots are nowhere to be found

    Um...irony alert?
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  • Beno4Life
    Beno4Life Member Posts: 533
    Tequilla said:

    I take recruiting ranking with a grain of salt ... there’s a bare minimum that you need to be at the table

    After that, it’s all about what you do when you get them on campus

    We are entering the territory you need ... you don’t play 85 players per game

    We have never landed a class at the top tier nationally ... expecting us to do so as a sign of success is bound for disappointment. Aspirational goal ... absolutely.

    The discussion in this thread is Top 10 ... it’s completely arbitrary. But when you separate and normalize the gaps in this range with the next handful of teams on either side what you find is comparable results. In that light ... there’s enough there to compete at the highest levels,


    I'm sorry, but huh? I have no idea what in the hell you're trying to communicate through words, which reminds me of Fatters' writing style. Please clarify.
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