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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    Tequilla said:

    Let's go down the list of PAC Coaches to see how good Lorenzo really is:

    Washington State: No Coach - rumors of Kelvin Sampson or Ernesto filling the job. Sampson coached in a Final Four and Elite Eight at that basketball power known as Oklahoma. Ernesto got to the Elite Eight twice.

    Oregon State: Craig Robinson ... not a great coach but he's got connections that give free pub.

    Oregon: Dana Altman ... Got to the Sweet Sixteen last year ... track record of getting to the Dance w/ a mid-major school in Creighton

    Cal: Mike Montgomery ... Has a Final Four and Elite Eight appearance

    Stanford: Johnny Dawkins ... Has rebuilt Stanford back to a NCAA team ... in the Sweet Sixteen this weekend and his team has to be a favorite to get to the Elite Eight after beating a #2 seed in Kansas (a seed that Romar's never beat). Played in the National Championship game as a player.

    USC: Andy Enfield ... Took Florida Gulf Coast to a Sweet Sixteen as a #15 seed ... beat a #2 seed in the process

    UCLA: Steve Alford ... Coaching in his second Sweet Sixteen ... won a national championship as a player.

    Utah: Larry Krystkowiak ... made the NCAAs in his only 2 years at Montana ... has taken Utah from 3 conference wins (and 6 overall) his first season there to 9 conference wins (and 21 overall) by his third season.

    Colorado: Made the NCAAs 3 straight years at Colorado and had a Top 20 team this year before Spencer Dinwiddie tore up his ACL. Colorado's made 13 NCAA Tournaments in this history of the school, and only 5 since 1970.

    Arizona St: Herb Sendek ... Has made the Sweet Sixteen once when at NC State

    Arizona: Sean Miller ... Has made 2 Sweet 16s and 2 Elite Eights in his 9 completed seasons as a NCAA Head Coach ... has a #1 seed still going this year and has to be a favorite to get to the Title Game.

    Washington: Lorenzo Romar ... 3 Sweet 16s in 18 years as Head Coach.

    Where does Romar rank in this grouping?

    Cal's still too high
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,816
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    There was no particular order in that list ... I'd rank Monty probably in the Top 4-5 ... but I don't think he's as good as he used to be.
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    Tequilla said:

    The point being now is that the weakest coach in the conference (outside of the POTUS' Bro in Law) will be probably Herb Sendek or Andy Enfield (just based on experience). The conference as a whole has a number of quality coaches and the profiles of some on this list (notably Miller, Alford, and Dawkins) are going to go way up after this postseason.

    Romar's definitely falling down that list ... and there's not a clear path for him to go back towards the top of the list.

    If Doogs really looked at it objectively, they'd realize that Romar really wasn't as great as they make him out to be.

    Doogs hate facts though.
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    Tequilla said:

    The point being now is that the weakest coach in the conference (outside of the POTUS' Bro in Law) will be probably Herb Sendek or Andy Enfield (just based on experience). The conference as a whole has a number of quality coaches and the profiles of some on this list (notably Miller, Alford, and Dawkins) are going to go way up after this postseason.

    Romar's definitely falling down that list ... and there's not a clear path for him to go back towards the top of the list.

    If Doogs really looked at it objectively, they'd realize that Romar really wasn't as great as they make him out to be.

    I think unlike football where the coaching in the conference is strong I think in basketball it is kind of weak.

    I'm willing to bet our top 5 is weaker than most big conferences. We don't even have a clear cut #1? I suppose it's Miller because of his recruiting but hard to put a guy #1 with to date zero FF's.

    Monty has rescued two programs already and I think belongs at no lower than 2nd.

    As for the rest? It's a mix bag of success.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    Tequilla said:

    The point being now is that the weakest coach in the conference (outside of the POTUS' Bro in Law) will be probably Herb Sendek or Andy Enfield (just based on experience). The conference as a whole has a number of quality coaches and the profiles of some on this list (notably Miller, Alford, and Dawkins) are going to go way up after this postseason.

    Romar's definitely falling down that list ... and there's not a clear path for him to go back towards the top of the list.

    If Doogs really looked at it objectively, they'd realize that Romar really wasn't as great as they make him out to be.

    I think unlike football where the coaching in the conference is strong I think in basketball it is kind of weak.

    I'm willing to bet our top 5 is weaker than most big conferences. We don't even have a clear cut #1? I suppose it's Miller because of his recruiting but hard to put a guy #1 with to date zero FF's.

    Monty has rescued two programs already and I think belongs at no lower than 2nd.

    As for the rest? It's a mix bag of success.
    All you need to know about the quality of coaching in this conference is the rush to crown Dana Altman.

    #FuckingDreckfest
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,816
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    The sad thing is that the quality of coaching in this conference is actually much better today than it was 5 years ago.

    That being said, I absolutely agree that you could go a long way to improve the quality in this conference going forward.

    For example, Gregg Marshall will lose 4 strong contributors to their squad this year in Early (will be a very solid pro IMO), Wiggins, Coleby, and Lufile (which is also most of his height). Next year he loses Cotton. The following year he'll lose both Baker and Van Vleet (unless they leave early). Is it possible that you can lure him away from Wichita State after the next year or two after the current crop vanishes and he's back to being a really good, but not great program?

    Could you pull Marshall in if you offered him a $3M per year deal?

    Funny thing is that I'm pretty sure Marshall makes far more than Romar does as it is.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    Tequilla said:

    Let's go down the list of PAC Coaches to see how good Lorenzo really is:

    Washington State: No Coach - rumors of Kelvin Sampson or Ernesto filling the job. Sampson coached in a Final Four and Elite Eight at that basketball power known as Oklahoma. Ernesto got to the Elite Eight twice.

    Oregon State: Craig Robinson ... not a great coach but he's got connections that give free pub.

    Oregon: Dana Altman ... Got to the Sweet Sixteen last year ... track record of getting to the Dance w/ a mid-major school in Creighton

    Cal: Mike Montgomery ... Has a Final Four and Elite Eight appearance

    Stanford: Johnny Dawkins ... Has rebuilt Stanford back to a NCAA team ... in the Sweet Sixteen this weekend and his team has to be a favorite to get to the Elite Eight after beating a #2 seed in Kansas (a seed that Romar's never beat). Played in the National Championship game as a player.

    USC: Andy Enfield ... Took Florida Gulf Coast to a Sweet Sixteen as a #15 seed ... beat a #2 seed in the process

    UCLA: Steve Alford ... Coaching in his second Sweet Sixteen ... won a national championship as a player.

    Utah: Larry Krystkowiak ... made the NCAAs in his only 2 years at Montana ... has taken Utah from 3 conference wins (and 6 overall) his first season there to 9 conference wins (and 21 overall) by his third season.

    Colorado: Made the NCAAs 3 straight years at Colorado and had a Top 20 team this year before Spencer Dinwiddie tore up his ACL. Colorado's made 13 NCAA Tournaments in this history of the school, and only 5 since 1970.

    Arizona St: Herb Sendek ... Has made the Sweet Sixteen once when at NC State

    Arizona: Sean Miller ... Has made 2 Sweet 16s and 2 Elite Eights in his 9 completed seasons as a NCAA Head Coach ... has a #1 seed still going this year and has to be a favorite to get to the Title Game.

    Washington: Lorenzo Romar ... 3 Sweet 16s in 18 years as Head Coach.

    Where does Romar rank in this grouping?

    Bump.

    They all suck.

    #fuckingdreckfest
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    Tequilla said:

    Let's go down the list of PAC Coaches to see how good Lorenzo really is:

    Washington State: No Coach - rumors of Kelvin Sampson or Ernesto filling the job. Sampson coached in a Final Four and Elite Eight at that basketball power known as Oklahoma. Ernesto got to the Elite Eight twice.

    Oregon State: Craig Robinson ... not a great coach but he's got connections that give free pub.

    Oregon: Dana Altman ... Got to the Sweet Sixteen last year ... track record of getting to the Dance w/ a mid-major school in Creighton

    Cal: Mike Montgomery ... Has a Final Four and Elite Eight appearance

    Stanford: Johnny Dawkins ... Has rebuilt Stanford back to a NCAA team ... in the Sweet Sixteen this weekend and his team has to be a favorite to get to the Elite Eight after beating a #2 seed in Kansas (a seed that Romar's never beat). Played in the National Championship game as a player.

    USC: Andy Enfield ... Took Florida Gulf Coast to a Sweet Sixteen as a #15 seed ... beat a #2 seed in the process

    UCLA: Steve Alford ... Coaching in his second Sweet Sixteen ... won a national championship as a player.

    Utah: Larry Krystkowiak ... made the NCAAs in his only 2 years at Montana ... has taken Utah from 3 conference wins (and 6 overall) his first season there to 9 conference wins (and 21 overall) by his third season.

    Colorado: Made the NCAAs 3 straight years at Colorado and had a Top 20 team this year before Spencer Dinwiddie tore up his ACL. Colorado's made 13 NCAA Tournaments in this history of the school, and only 5 since 1970.

    Arizona St: Herb Sendek ... Has made the Sweet Sixteen once when at NC State

    Arizona: Sean Miller ... Has made 2 Sweet 16s and 2 Elite Eights in his 9 completed seasons as a NCAA Head Coach ... has a #1 seed still going this year and has to be a favorite to get to the Title Game.

    Washington: Lorenzo Romar ... 3 Sweet 16s in 18 years as Head Coach.

    Where does Romar rank in this grouping?

    Bump.

    They all suck.

    #fuckingdreckfest
    Disagree. It's stupid to judge coaches strictly on tournament success. Miller is a good coach. He's going to pull in great talent year in and year out. He will have many more chances at tournament success. He lost by one point. A couple of free throws or a missed wide open jumper and he's in the Final 4. I don't think he is an incredible x's and o's coach, but at some point he could put together a couple of final 4 appearances and a title. It's way too early to say he sucks. Lute Olsen only won one title.

    Until this year, Bo Ryan has done poorly in the tournament. There are probably less than 10 coaches I would rather have. He's a very good coach.

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    Tequilla said:

    Let's go down the list of PAC Coaches to see how good Lorenzo really is:

    Washington State: No Coach - rumors of Kelvin Sampson or Ernesto filling the job. Sampson coached in a Final Four and Elite Eight at that basketball power known as Oklahoma. Ernesto got to the Elite Eight twice.

    Oregon State: Craig Robinson ... not a great coach but he's got connections that give free pub.

    Oregon: Dana Altman ... Got to the Sweet Sixteen last year ... track record of getting to the Dance w/ a mid-major school in Creighton

    Cal: Mike Montgomery ... Has a Final Four and Elite Eight appearance

    Stanford: Johnny Dawkins ... Has rebuilt Stanford back to a NCAA team ... in the Sweet Sixteen this weekend and his team has to be a favorite to get to the Elite Eight after beating a #2 seed in Kansas (a seed that Romar's never beat). Played in the National Championship game as a player.

    USC: Andy Enfield ... Took Florida Gulf Coast to a Sweet Sixteen as a #15 seed ... beat a #2 seed in the process

    UCLA: Steve Alford ... Coaching in his second Sweet Sixteen ... won a national championship as a player.

    Utah: Larry Krystkowiak ... made the NCAAs in his only 2 years at Montana ... has taken Utah from 3 conference wins (and 6 overall) his first season there to 9 conference wins (and 21 overall) by his third season.

    Colorado: Made the NCAAs 3 straight years at Colorado and had a Top 20 team this year before Spencer Dinwiddie tore up his ACL. Colorado's made 13 NCAA Tournaments in this history of the school, and only 5 since 1970.

    Arizona St: Herb Sendek ... Has made the Sweet Sixteen once when at NC State

    Arizona: Sean Miller ... Has made 2 Sweet 16s and 2 Elite Eights in his 9 completed seasons as a NCAA Head Coach ... has a #1 seed still going this year and has to be a favorite to get to the Title Game.

    Washington: Lorenzo Romar ... 3 Sweet 16s in 18 years as Head Coach.

    Where does Romar rank in this grouping?

    Bump.

    They all suck.

    #fuckingdreckfest
    Disagree. It's stupid to judge coaches strictly on tournament success. Miller is a good coach. He's going to pull in great talent year in and year out. He will have many more chances at tournament success. He lost by one point. A couple of free throws or a missed wide open jumper and he's in the Final 4

    Hole-Lee-Fuck.

    That sounded like something I'd read on Doogman.
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    Tequilla said:

    Let's go down the list of PAC Coaches to see how good Lorenzo really is:

    Washington State: No Coach - rumors of Kelvin Sampson or Ernesto filling the job. Sampson coached in a Final Four and Elite Eight at that basketball power known as Oklahoma. Ernesto got to the Elite Eight twice.

    Oregon State: Craig Robinson ... not a great coach but he's got connections that give free pub.

    Oregon: Dana Altman ... Got to the Sweet Sixteen last year ... track record of getting to the Dance w/ a mid-major school in Creighton

    Cal: Mike Montgomery ... Has a Final Four and Elite Eight appearance

    Stanford: Johnny Dawkins ... Has rebuilt Stanford back to a NCAA team ... in the Sweet Sixteen this weekend and his team has to be a favorite to get to the Elite Eight after beating a #2 seed in Kansas (a seed that Romar's never beat). Played in the National Championship game as a player.

    USC: Andy Enfield ... Took Florida Gulf Coast to a Sweet Sixteen as a #15 seed ... beat a #2 seed in the process

    UCLA: Steve Alford ... Coaching in his second Sweet Sixteen ... won a national championship as a player.

    Utah: Larry Krystkowiak ... made the NCAAs in his only 2 years at Montana ... has taken Utah from 3 conference wins (and 6 overall) his first season there to 9 conference wins (and 21 overall) by his third season.

    Colorado: Made the NCAAs 3 straight years at Colorado and had a Top 20 team this year before Spencer Dinwiddie tore up his ACL. Colorado's made 13 NCAA Tournaments in this history of the school, and only 5 since 1970.

    Arizona St: Herb Sendek ... Has made the Sweet Sixteen once when at NC State

    Arizona: Sean Miller ... Has made 2 Sweet 16s and 2 Elite Eights in his 9 completed seasons as a NCAA Head Coach ... has a #1 seed still going this year and has to be a favorite to get to the Title Game.

    Washington: Lorenzo Romar ... 3 Sweet 16s in 18 years as Head Coach.

    Where does Romar rank in this grouping?

    Bump.

    They all suck.

    #fuckingdreckfest
    Disagree. It's stupid to judge coaches strictly on tournament success. Miller is a good coach. He's going to pull in great talent year in and year out. He will have many more chances at tournament success. He lost by one point. A couple of free throws or a missed wide open jumper and he's in the Final 4. I don't think he is an incredible x's and o's coach, but at some point he could put together a couple of final 4 appearances and a title. It's way too early to say he sucks. Lute Olsen only won one title.

    Until this year, Bo Ryan has done poorly in the tournament. There are probably less than 10 coaches I would rather have. He's a very good coach.

    RoadDoog gonna RoadDoog.

    He had five fucking minutes to draw up a final play and Arizona never even got a shot.
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    Tequilla said:

    Let's go down the list of PAC Coaches to see how good Lorenzo really is:

    Washington State: No Coach - rumors of Kelvin Sampson or Ernesto filling the job. Sampson coached in a Final Four and Elite Eight at that basketball power known as Oklahoma. Ernesto got to the Elite Eight twice.

    Oregon State: Craig Robinson ... not a great coach but he's got connections that give free pub.

    Oregon: Dana Altman ... Got to the Sweet Sixteen last year ... track record of getting to the Dance w/ a mid-major school in Creighton

    Cal: Mike Montgomery ... Has a Final Four and Elite Eight appearance

    Stanford: Johnny Dawkins ... Has rebuilt Stanford back to a NCAA team ... in the Sweet Sixteen this weekend and his team has to be a favorite to get to the Elite Eight after beating a #2 seed in Kansas (a seed that Romar's never beat). Played in the National Championship game as a player.

    USC: Andy Enfield ... Took Florida Gulf Coast to a Sweet Sixteen as a #15 seed ... beat a #2 seed in the process

    UCLA: Steve Alford ... Coaching in his second Sweet Sixteen ... won a national championship as a player.

    Utah: Larry Krystkowiak ... made the NCAAs in his only 2 years at Montana ... has taken Utah from 3 conference wins (and 6 overall) his first season there to 9 conference wins (and 21 overall) by his third season.

    Colorado: Made the NCAAs 3 straight years at Colorado and had a Top 20 team this year before Spencer Dinwiddie tore up his ACL. Colorado's made 13 NCAA Tournaments in this history of the school, and only 5 since 1970.

    Arizona St: Herb Sendek ... Has made the Sweet Sixteen once when at NC State

    Arizona: Sean Miller ... Has made 2 Sweet 16s and 2 Elite Eights in his 9 completed seasons as a NCAA Head Coach ... has a #1 seed still going this year and has to be a favorite to get to the Title Game.

    Washington: Lorenzo Romar ... 3 Sweet 16s in 18 years as Head Coach.

    Where does Romar rank in this grouping?

    Bump.

    They all suck.

    #fuckingdreckfest
    Disagree. It's stupid to judge coaches strictly on tournament success. Miller is a good coach. He's going to pull in great talent year in and year out. He will have many more chances at tournament success. He lost by one point. A couple of free throws or a missed wide open jumper and he's in the Final 4. I don't think he is an incredible x's and o's coach, but at some point he could put together a couple of final 4 appearances and a title. It's way too early to say he sucks. Lute Olsen only won one title.

    Until this year, Bo Ryan has done poorly in the tournament. There are probably less than 10 coaches I would rather have. He's a very good coach.

    RoadDoog gonna RoadDoog.

    He had five fucking minutes to draw up a final play and Arizona never even got a shot.
    Didn't even watch the game. Shit happens though. Miller is one of the better coaches with the potential to be very good. You must have missed where I said I don't think he's a great x's and o's coach. He's going to have really good talent every year though, and it's only a matter of time until he breaks through.

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    Tequilla said:

    Let's go down the list of PAC Coaches to see how good Lorenzo really is:

    Washington State: No Coach - rumors of Kelvin Sampson or Ernesto filling the job. Sampson coached in a Final Four and Elite Eight at that basketball power known as Oklahoma. Ernesto got to the Elite Eight twice.

    Oregon State: Craig Robinson ... not a great coach but he's got connections that give free pub.

    Oregon: Dana Altman ... Got to the Sweet Sixteen last year ... track record of getting to the Dance w/ a mid-major school in Creighton

    Cal: Mike Montgomery ... Has a Final Four and Elite Eight appearance

    Stanford: Johnny Dawkins ... Has rebuilt Stanford back to a NCAA team ... in the Sweet Sixteen this weekend and his team has to be a favorite to get to the Elite Eight after beating a #2 seed in Kansas (a seed that Romar's never beat). Played in the National Championship game as a player.

    USC: Andy Enfield ... Took Florida Gulf Coast to a Sweet Sixteen as a #15 seed ... beat a #2 seed in the process

    UCLA: Steve Alford ... Coaching in his second Sweet Sixteen ... won a national championship as a player.

    Utah: Larry Krystkowiak ... made the NCAAs in his only 2 years at Montana ... has taken Utah from 3 conference wins (and 6 overall) his first season there to 9 conference wins (and 21 overall) by his third season.

    Colorado: Made the NCAAs 3 straight years at Colorado and had a Top 20 team this year before Spencer Dinwiddie tore up his ACL. Colorado's made 13 NCAA Tournaments in this history of the school, and only 5 since 1970.

    Arizona St: Herb Sendek ... Has made the Sweet Sixteen once when at NC State

    Arizona: Sean Miller ... Has made 2 Sweet 16s and 2 Elite Eights in his 9 completed seasons as a NCAA Head Coach ... has a #1 seed still going this year and has to be a favorite to get to the Title Game.

    Washington: Lorenzo Romar ... 3 Sweet 16s in 18 years as Head Coach.

    Where does Romar rank in this grouping?

    Bump.

    They all suck.

    #fuckingdreckfest
    Disagree. It's stupid to judge coaches strictly on tournament success. Miller is a good coach. He's going to pull in great talent year in and year out. He will have many more chances at tournament success. He lost by one point. A couple of free throws or a missed wide open jumper and he's in the Final 4. I don't think he is an incredible x's and o's coach, but at some point he could put together a couple of final 4 appearances and a title. It's way too early to say he sucks. Lute Olsen only won one title.

    Until this year, Bo Ryan has done poorly in the tournament. There are probably less than 10 coaches I would rather have. He's a very good coach.

    disagree

    He's had like 5 years? IDK, CBB is dreck so I don't watch much. I know he's had at least 4. He has F4 talent. I know for sure he has more talent than a slow, white boy Wiskey team. If I'm Greg Byrne (a.d.), the heat gets turned up a little bit. This was their year.
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    Also, Nick Johnson is an annoying little faggot. Salim Stoudamire bitch level.
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    Tequilla said:

    Let's go down the list of PAC Coaches to see how good Lorenzo really is:

    Washington State: No Coach - rumors of Kelvin Sampson or Ernesto filling the job. Sampson coached in a Final Four and Elite Eight at that basketball power known as Oklahoma. Ernesto got to the Elite Eight twice.

    Oregon State: Craig Robinson ... not a great coach but he's got connections that give free pub.

    Oregon: Dana Altman ... Got to the Sweet Sixteen last year ... track record of getting to the Dance w/ a mid-major school in Creighton

    Cal: Mike Montgomery ... Has a Final Four and Elite Eight appearance

    Stanford: Johnny Dawkins ... Has rebuilt Stanford back to a NCAA team ... in the Sweet Sixteen this weekend and his team has to be a favorite to get to the Elite Eight after beating a #2 seed in Kansas (a seed that Romar's never beat). Played in the National Championship game as a player.

    USC: Andy Enfield ... Took Florida Gulf Coast to a Sweet Sixteen as a #15 seed ... beat a #2 seed in the process

    UCLA: Steve Alford ... Coaching in his second Sweet Sixteen ... won a national championship as a player.

    Utah: Larry Krystkowiak ... made the NCAAs in his only 2 years at Montana ... has taken Utah from 3 conference wins (and 6 overall) his first season there to 9 conference wins (and 21 overall) by his third season.

    Colorado: Made the NCAAs 3 straight years at Colorado and had a Top 20 team this year before Spencer Dinwiddie tore up his ACL. Colorado's made 13 NCAA Tournaments in this history of the school, and only 5 since 1970.

    Arizona St: Herb Sendek ... Has made the Sweet Sixteen once when at NC State

    Arizona: Sean Miller ... Has made 2 Sweet 16s and 2 Elite Eights in his 9 completed seasons as a NCAA Head Coach ... has a #1 seed still going this year and has to be a favorite to get to the Title Game.

    Washington: Lorenzo Romar ... 3 Sweet 16s in 18 years as Head Coach.

    Where does Romar rank in this grouping?

    Bump.

    They all suck.

    #fuckingdreckfest
    Disagree. It's stupid to judge coaches strictly on tournament success. Miller is a good coach. He's going to pull in great talent year in and year out. He will have many more chances at tournament success. He lost by one point. A couple of free throws or a missed wide open jumper and he's in the Final 4. I don't think he is an incredible x's and o's coach, but at some point he could put together a couple of final 4 appearances and a title. It's way too early to say he sucks. Lute Olsen only won one title.

    Until this year, Bo Ryan has done poorly in the tournament. There are probably less than 10 coaches I would rather have. He's a very good coach.

    disagree

    He's had like 5 years? IDK, CBB is dreck so I don't watch much. I know he's had at least 4. He has F4 talent. I know for sure he has more talent than a slow, white boy Wiskey team. If I'm Greg Byrne (a.d.), the heat gets turned up a little bit. This was their year.
    He's got 2 five star's and the next Isaiah Thomas coming in next year. He's pulling in elite talent every year. Another 5 star already committed for 2015. Arizona has a stranglehold on the Pac 12 with UCLA and it's not changing anytime soon. You guys are sounding like Beach on doogman. He's got faults, but he's a good coach. It's only a matter of time before he makes a couple final 4's.

    http://washington.scout.com/a.z?s=147&p=9&c=8&cfg=bb&toinid=550&sspid=-1&yr=2014

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    elite recruiter? absolutely
    great coach? no
    that's what I think of him. At some point he will have enough talent that he will break through, but it won't be because he's a great coach
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    dhdawg said:

    elite recruiter? absolutely
    great coach? no
    that's what I think of him. At some point he will have enough talent that he will break through, but it won't be because he's a great coach

    A better way of what I was basically trying to post. His recruiting makes him a very good coach. I don't think Calipari is great either, and have seen him look like a terrible coach at times, but very few teams wouldn't trade their coach for him. Miller is Calipari light.

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    Well Loot is the standard, kind of like James is our fball standard. Loot actually created the mess they just are getting out of. He took a season off due to a divorce and it ended up setting the program back about 4 years.

    Anyway I have no doubt that Miller can keep getting elite recruits. I'm saying that AZ fans have a right to be disappointed right now.
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    Well Loot is the standard, kind of like James is our fball standard. Loot actually created the mess they just are getting out of. He took a season off due to a divorce and it ended up setting the program back about 4 years.

    Anyway I have no doubt that Miller can keep getting elite recruits. I'm saying that AZ fans have a right to be disappointed right now.

    I thought he took a year off due to his wife dying?
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    Well Loot is the standard, kind of like James is our fball standard. Loot actually created the mess they just are getting out of. He took a season off due to a divorce and it ended up setting the program back about 4 years.

    Anyway I have no doubt that Miller can keep getting elite recruits. I'm saying that AZ fans have a right to be disappointed right now.

    I thought he took a year off due to his wife dying?
    dying to get out of that marriage apparently
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