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Didn't even watch the game. Shit happens though. Miller is one of the better coaches with the potential to be very good. You must have missed where I said I don't think he's a great x's and o's coach. He's going to have really good talent every year though, and it's only a matter of time until he breaks through.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
RoadDoog gonna RoadDoog.RoadDawg55 said:
Disagree. It's stupid to judge coaches strictly on tournament success. Miller is a good coach. He's going to pull in great talent year in and year out. He will have many more chances at tournament success. He lost by one point. A couple of free throws or a missed wide open jumper and he's in the Final 4. I don't think he is an incredible x's and o's coach, but at some point he could put together a couple of final 4 appearances and a title. It's way too early to say he sucks. Lute Olsen only won one title.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Bump.Tequilla said:Let's go down the list of PAC Coaches to see how good Lorenzo really is:
Washington State: No Coach - rumors of Kelvin Sampson or Ernesto filling the job. Sampson coached in a Final Four and Elite Eight at that basketball power known as Oklahoma. Ernesto got to the Elite Eight twice.
Oregon State: Craig Robinson ... not a great coach but he's got connections that give free pub.
Oregon: Dana Altman ... Got to the Sweet Sixteen last year ... track record of getting to the Dance w/ a mid-major school in Creighton
Cal: Mike Montgomery ... Has a Final Four and Elite Eight appearance
Stanford: Johnny Dawkins ... Has rebuilt Stanford back to a NCAA team ... in the Sweet Sixteen this weekend and his team has to be a favorite to get to the Elite Eight after beating a #2 seed in Kansas (a seed that Romar's never beat). Played in the National Championship game as a player.
USC: Andy Enfield ... Took Florida Gulf Coast to a Sweet Sixteen as a #15 seed ... beat a #2 seed in the process
UCLA: Steve Alford ... Coaching in his second Sweet Sixteen ... won a national championship as a player.
Utah: Larry Krystkowiak ... made the NCAAs in his only 2 years at Montana ... has taken Utah from 3 conference wins (and 6 overall) his first season there to 9 conference wins (and 21 overall) by his third season.
Colorado: Made the NCAAs 3 straight years at Colorado and had a Top 20 team this year before Spencer Dinwiddie tore up his ACL. Colorado's made 13 NCAA Tournaments in this history of the school, and only 5 since 1970.
Arizona St: Herb Sendek ... Has made the Sweet Sixteen once when at NC State
Arizona: Sean Miller ... Has made 2 Sweet 16s and 2 Elite Eights in his 9 completed seasons as a NCAA Head Coach ... has a #1 seed still going this year and has to be a favorite to get to the Title Game.
Washington: Lorenzo Romar ... 3 Sweet 16s in 18 years as Head Coach.
Where does Romar rank in this grouping?
They all suck.
#fuckingdreckfest
Until this year, Bo Ryan has done poorly in the tournament. There are probably less than 10 coaches I would rather have. He's a very good coach.
He had five fucking minutes to draw up a final play and Arizona never even got a shot.
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disagreeRoadDawg55 said:
Disagree. It's stupid to judge coaches strictly on tournament success. Miller is a good coach. He's going to pull in great talent year in and year out. He will have many more chances at tournament success. He lost by one point. A couple of free throws or a missed wide open jumper and he's in the Final 4. I don't think he is an incredible x's and o's coach, but at some point he could put together a couple of final 4 appearances and a title. It's way too early to say he sucks. Lute Olsen only won one title.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Bump.Tequilla said:Let's go down the list of PAC Coaches to see how good Lorenzo really is:
Washington State: No Coach - rumors of Kelvin Sampson or Ernesto filling the job. Sampson coached in a Final Four and Elite Eight at that basketball power known as Oklahoma. Ernesto got to the Elite Eight twice.
Oregon State: Craig Robinson ... not a great coach but he's got connections that give free pub.
Oregon: Dana Altman ... Got to the Sweet Sixteen last year ... track record of getting to the Dance w/ a mid-major school in Creighton
Cal: Mike Montgomery ... Has a Final Four and Elite Eight appearance
Stanford: Johnny Dawkins ... Has rebuilt Stanford back to a NCAA team ... in the Sweet Sixteen this weekend and his team has to be a favorite to get to the Elite Eight after beating a #2 seed in Kansas (a seed that Romar's never beat). Played in the National Championship game as a player.
USC: Andy Enfield ... Took Florida Gulf Coast to a Sweet Sixteen as a #15 seed ... beat a #2 seed in the process
UCLA: Steve Alford ... Coaching in his second Sweet Sixteen ... won a national championship as a player.
Utah: Larry Krystkowiak ... made the NCAAs in his only 2 years at Montana ... has taken Utah from 3 conference wins (and 6 overall) his first season there to 9 conference wins (and 21 overall) by his third season.
Colorado: Made the NCAAs 3 straight years at Colorado and had a Top 20 team this year before Spencer Dinwiddie tore up his ACL. Colorado's made 13 NCAA Tournaments in this history of the school, and only 5 since 1970.
Arizona St: Herb Sendek ... Has made the Sweet Sixteen once when at NC State
Arizona: Sean Miller ... Has made 2 Sweet 16s and 2 Elite Eights in his 9 completed seasons as a NCAA Head Coach ... has a #1 seed still going this year and has to be a favorite to get to the Title Game.
Washington: Lorenzo Romar ... 3 Sweet 16s in 18 years as Head Coach.
Where does Romar rank in this grouping?
They all suck.
#fuckingdreckfest
Until this year, Bo Ryan has done poorly in the tournament. There are probably less than 10 coaches I would rather have. He's a very good coach.
He's had like 5 years? IDK, CBB is dreck so I don't watch much. I know he's had at least 4. He has F4 talent. I know for sure he has more talent than a slow, white boy Wiskey team. If I'm Greg Byrne (a.d.), the heat gets turned up a little bit. This was their year. -
Also, Nick Johnson is an annoying little faggot. Salim Stoudamire bitch level.
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He's got 2 five star's and the next Isaiah Thomas coming in next year. He's pulling in elite talent every year. Another 5 star already committed for 2015. Arizona has a stranglehold on the Pac 12 with UCLA and it's not changing anytime soon. You guys are sounding like Beach on doogman. He's got faults, but he's a good coach. It's only a matter of time before he makes a couple final 4's.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
disagreeRoadDawg55 said:
Disagree. It's stupid to judge coaches strictly on tournament success. Miller is a good coach. He's going to pull in great talent year in and year out. He will have many more chances at tournament success. He lost by one point. A couple of free throws or a missed wide open jumper and he's in the Final 4. I don't think he is an incredible x's and o's coach, but at some point he could put together a couple of final 4 appearances and a title. It's way too early to say he sucks. Lute Olsen only won one title.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Bump.Tequilla said:Let's go down the list of PAC Coaches to see how good Lorenzo really is:
Washington State: No Coach - rumors of Kelvin Sampson or Ernesto filling the job. Sampson coached in a Final Four and Elite Eight at that basketball power known as Oklahoma. Ernesto got to the Elite Eight twice.
Oregon State: Craig Robinson ... not a great coach but he's got connections that give free pub.
Oregon: Dana Altman ... Got to the Sweet Sixteen last year ... track record of getting to the Dance w/ a mid-major school in Creighton
Cal: Mike Montgomery ... Has a Final Four and Elite Eight appearance
Stanford: Johnny Dawkins ... Has rebuilt Stanford back to a NCAA team ... in the Sweet Sixteen this weekend and his team has to be a favorite to get to the Elite Eight after beating a #2 seed in Kansas (a seed that Romar's never beat). Played in the National Championship game as a player.
USC: Andy Enfield ... Took Florida Gulf Coast to a Sweet Sixteen as a #15 seed ... beat a #2 seed in the process
UCLA: Steve Alford ... Coaching in his second Sweet Sixteen ... won a national championship as a player.
Utah: Larry Krystkowiak ... made the NCAAs in his only 2 years at Montana ... has taken Utah from 3 conference wins (and 6 overall) his first season there to 9 conference wins (and 21 overall) by his third season.
Colorado: Made the NCAAs 3 straight years at Colorado and had a Top 20 team this year before Spencer Dinwiddie tore up his ACL. Colorado's made 13 NCAA Tournaments in this history of the school, and only 5 since 1970.
Arizona St: Herb Sendek ... Has made the Sweet Sixteen once when at NC State
Arizona: Sean Miller ... Has made 2 Sweet 16s and 2 Elite Eights in his 9 completed seasons as a NCAA Head Coach ... has a #1 seed still going this year and has to be a favorite to get to the Title Game.
Washington: Lorenzo Romar ... 3 Sweet 16s in 18 years as Head Coach.
Where does Romar rank in this grouping?
They all suck.
#fuckingdreckfest
Until this year, Bo Ryan has done poorly in the tournament. There are probably less than 10 coaches I would rather have. He's a very good coach.
He's had like 5 years? IDK, CBB is dreck so I don't watch much. I know he's had at least 4. He has F4 talent. I know for sure he has more talent than a slow, white boy Wiskey team. If I'm Greg Byrne (a.d.), the heat gets turned up a little bit. This was their year.
http://washington.scout.com/a.z?s=147&p=9&c=8&cfg=bb&toinid=550&sspid=-1&yr=2014
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elite recruiter? absolutely
great coach? no
that's what I think of him. At some point he will have enough talent that he will break through, but it won't be because he's a great coach -
A better way of what I was basically trying to post. His recruiting makes him a very good coach. I don't think Calipari is great either, and have seen him look like a terrible coach at times, but very few teams wouldn't trade their coach for him. Miller is Calipari light.dhdawg said:elite recruiter? absolutely
great coach? no
that's what I think of him. At some point he will have enough talent that he will break through, but it won't be because he's a great coach
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Well Loot is the standard, kind of like James is our fball standard. Loot actually created the mess they just are getting out of. He took a season off due to a divorce and it ended up setting the program back about 4 years.
Anyway I have no doubt that Miller can keep getting elite recruits. I'm saying that AZ fans have a right to be disappointed right now. -
I thought he took a year off due to his wife dying?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Well Loot is the standard, kind of like James is our fball standard. Loot actually created the mess they just are getting out of. He took a season off due to a divorce and it ended up setting the program back about 4 years.
Anyway I have no doubt that Miller can keep getting elite recruits. I'm saying that AZ fans have a right to be disappointed right now.
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dying to get out of that marriage apparentlyHe_Needs_More_Time said:
I thought he took a year off due to his wife dying?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Well Loot is the standard, kind of like James is our fball standard. Loot actually created the mess they just are getting out of. He took a season off due to a divorce and it ended up setting the program back about 4 years.
Anyway I have no doubt that Miller can keep getting elite recruits. I'm saying that AZ fans have a right to be disappointed right now.
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