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You have said that 95% of Americans are struggling to makes end meet. Then why is it a good policy to continue to import immigrants to compete with them for jobs and resources? It makes far more sense to shut immigration down, to relieve pressure on the American people and American workers. They don't need more competition.Baseman said:
I hire immigrants and pay them well. They're polite, they show up on time, they get the job done well and quickly. When they finish, they get paid. How refreshing.oregonblitzkrieg said:
It's all been laid out clearly in black and white, in your own words, thatMikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Not a single statement I made said I want open borders for cheap labor.oregonblitzkrieg said:You deny you're a liar, so I'll just post your own words and let them bury you.
MikeDamone said:I don't support open borders for cheap labor. My god you're sense
MikeDamone said:You’re still yelling about this?
Really, what threads are those where I made myself clear that show I said what you’re saying I did?
I am denying I support open boarders for cheap labor.MikeDamone said:
I’d rather hire a hardworking immigrant than a piece of shit green haired pierced lip lazy socialist antifa asshole HondoBro who is going to bitch about “living wages” on day 1. Hard passoregonblitzkrieg said:
Again, they can hire their unskilled labor from the large pool of unemployed socialists. Two birds with one stone. Give these morons jerbs to support themselves and they won't have the time to attend antifa rallies or agitate for socialist revolution.MikeDamone said:
Unemployment is at historic lows (thanks Trump!). Everyone I talk to needs workers. Skilled and unskilled. Of course the media tells us the economy sucks, but that’s not reality.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Those jobs can be filled by unemployed socialists like @TheKobeStopperMikeDamone said:
It needs more of both as long as there are open and available jobs.oregonblitzkrieg said:
The US doesn't need more unskilled labor. The US doesn't need more immigrants. It needs less of both.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:More than 1/5 of the population is speaking a foreign tongue as their primary language. This points to the fact that we've got an immigration problem. Long past time to close the gates, and keep them closed for several decades, if not permanently.
What’s the problem, excatly. If they are contributing members of society we need them.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
You're a 'businessman' who wants open borders for the cheap labor, and you're rather hire immigrants who won't complain about living wages.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:
Get better advertising or piss off. There are millions of unemployed Americans to hire, there isn't a need to import more Mexicans to fill these jobs.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
What about Europeans. Can they be hired?
You’re suck a fucking simpleton. Yeah, I businessman trying to fill jobs just needs better advertising. You’re a fucking retard.
You want open borders for the cheap labor. You've lied about this, like you've lied about me saying that other races are inferior to whites. Your credibility is shot. What else have you been lying about?
I’d much rather have a hard working immigrant striving for the American dream than a piece of shit self entitled brat working for me. Like the dumb ass burger flippers who think they are owed a middle class lifestyle who aren’t willing to go get the skills for it.
I knew you were dumb, I just didn’t realize how dumb. A racist dumbfuck. You sound like David Duke.
You’re still too stupid to understand my position on borders. Yellow even laid it out for you and you still can’t figure it out. Idiot
1.) You are for open borders for cheap labor.
2.) You lied about this fact and denied it several times.
3.) You're a 'businessman' (allegedly) that hires people (allegedly).
4.) You don't want to pay a livable wage, and would rather hire immigrants over Americans because they won't complain about it. Seems racist to take advantage of people from other countries like that.
You don't allow for nuance in positions, so you won't be afforded any either.
You're a straight up, shit eating liar and it's been proven in this thread.
Still waiting for you to prove your lie that I said other races are inferior to whites.
Their American counterparts bid high, want $ upfront then make excuses why they can't start on time. They cut corners; they don't meet deadlines. It's become the script.
The immigrants crave citizenship and will happily pay taxes for the right to live and work in a free country. The idea immigrants have stolen jobs from hard working Americans is laughable. 95% of Americans already struggle making ends meet. Without Walmart and goods made overseas those people are fucked. The cost of American manufacturing would drive the prices on goods high enough the majority of folks couldn't afford to buy them.
America is still about the opportunity for a better life. Work at McDonalds and mow lawns when your young, learn a skill or trade and carve out your future. It's easier than ever to start a manufacturing business in the states using overseas labor. Develop an idea, have the Chinese build it, sell it on Amazon.
I know several who do and make a better than good living.
You are suggesting that immigration is good because it increases tax revenue. How have increased tax revenues ever helped the American people? Taxes primarily benefit the permanent government bureaucracy, and are used for purposes they were never intended to be used for, like paying the retirement benefits of state and federal employees, and giving away billions in foreign aid, among other things. Want to relieve pressure on the American people? Cut taxes across the board and shrink government at all levels. Cut the ridiculous gas tax and watch the economy really take off.
Build new manufacturing businesses and give the jobs to foreigners overseas? Piss off with that un-American shit. What have anti American companies like Apple and Amazon ever done for the United States, except to destroy brick and mortar businesses owned by Americans (in Amazon's case) and in Apple's case, cooperation with the Chicoms while opposing American values like free speech. -
IOW, capitalism works.Baseman said:
I hire immigrants and pay them well. They're polite, they show up on time, they get the job done well and quickly. When they finish, they get paid. How refreshing.oregonblitzkrieg said:
It's all been laid out clearly in black and white, in your own words, thatMikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Not a single statement I made said I want open borders for cheap labor.oregonblitzkrieg said:You deny you're a liar, so I'll just post your own words and let them bury you.
MikeDamone said:I don't support open borders for cheap labor. My god you're sense
MikeDamone said:You’re still yelling about this?
Really, what threads are those where I made myself clear that show I said what you’re saying I did?
I am denying I support open boarders for cheap labor.MikeDamone said:
I’d rather hire a hardworking immigrant than a piece of shit green haired pierced lip lazy socialist antifa asshole HondoBro who is going to bitch about “living wages” on day 1. Hard passoregonblitzkrieg said:
Again, they can hire their unskilled labor from the large pool of unemployed socialists. Two birds with one stone. Give these morons jerbs to support themselves and they won't have the time to attend antifa rallies or agitate for socialist revolution.MikeDamone said:
Unemployment is at historic lows (thanks Trump!). Everyone I talk to needs workers. Skilled and unskilled. Of course the media tells us the economy sucks, but that’s not reality.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Those jobs can be filled by unemployed socialists like @TheKobeStopperMikeDamone said:
It needs more of both as long as there are open and available jobs.oregonblitzkrieg said:
The US doesn't need more unskilled labor. The US doesn't need more immigrants. It needs less of both.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:More than 1/5 of the population is speaking a foreign tongue as their primary language. This points to the fact that we've got an immigration problem. Long past time to close the gates, and keep them closed for several decades, if not permanently.
What’s the problem, excatly. If they are contributing members of society we need them.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
You're a 'businessman' who wants open borders for the cheap labor, and you're rather hire immigrants who won't complain about living wages.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:
Get better advertising or piss off. There are millions of unemployed Americans to hire, there isn't a need to import more Mexicans to fill these jobs.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
What about Europeans. Can they be hired?
You’re suck a fucking simpleton. Yeah, I businessman trying to fill jobs just needs better advertising. You’re a fucking retard.
You want open borders for the cheap labor. You've lied about this, like you've lied about me saying that other races are inferior to whites. Your credibility is shot. What else have you been lying about?
I’d much rather have a hard working immigrant striving for the American dream than a piece of shit self entitled brat working for me. Like the dumb ass burger flippers who think they are owed a middle class lifestyle who aren’t willing to go get the skills for it.
I knew you were dumb, I just didn’t realize how dumb. A racist dumbfuck. You sound like David Duke.
You’re still too stupid to understand my position on borders. Yellow even laid it out for you and you still can’t figure it out. Idiot
1.) You are for open borders for cheap labor.
2.) You lied about this fact and denied it several times.
3.) You're a 'businessman' (allegedly) that hires people (allegedly).
4.) You don't want to pay a livable wage, and would rather hire immigrants over Americans because they won't complain about it. Seems racist to take advantage of people from other countries like that.
You don't allow for nuance in positions, so you won't be afforded any either.
You're a straight up, shit eating liar and it's been proven in this thread.
Still waiting for you to prove your lie that I said other races are inferior to whites.
Their American counterparts bid high, want $ upfront then make excuses why they can't start on time. They cut corners; they don't meet deadlines. It's become the script.
The immigrants crave citizenship and will happily pay taxes for the right to live and work in a free country. The idea immigrants have stolen jobs from hard working Americans is laughable. 95% of Americans already struggle making ends meet. Without Walmart and goods made overseas those people are fucked. The cost of American manufacturing would drive the prices on goods high enough the majority of folks couldn't afford to buy them.
America is still about the opportunity for a better life. Work at McDonalds and mow lawns when your young, learn a skill or trade and carve out your future. It's easier than ever to start a manufacturing business in the states using overseas labor. Develop an idea, have the Chinese build it, sell it on Amazon.
I know several who do and make a better than good living.
Who knew? -
If I saw you arguing with a pile of chickenshit, I'd assume the chickenshit was more believable than you.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Yeah, you'll probably need to verify that you're telling the truth from now on if people are going to believe you. And even if he vouches for you in this instance, it wouldn't change the fact that you're a liar and a peddler of false smears. This has already been shown to be true.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:
You see, the thing with habitual liars like you is this: even when you're telling the truth, and I doubt you are, you've got a serious credibility problem now and nothing you say can be believed. You've lied about and denied your open borders for cheap labor position. You can't even provide evidence that I said 'other races are inferior to whites, because I never said that, because it's a pack of lies and you're a shit eating liar.MikeDamone said:
I’m not for open borders for cheap labor no matter how many times you claim it.oregonblitzkrieg said:
It's all been laid out clearly in black and white, in your own words, thatMikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Not a single statement I made said I want open borders for cheap labor.oregonblitzkrieg said:You deny you're a liar, so I'll just post your own words and let them bury you.
MikeDamone said:I don't support open borders for cheap labor. My god you're sense
MikeDamone said:You’re still yelling about this?
Really, what threads are those where I made myself clear that show I said what you’re saying I did?
I am denying I support open boarders for cheap labor.MikeDamone said:
I’d rather hire a hardworking immigrant than a piece of shit green haired pierced lip lazy socialist antifa asshole HondoBro who is going to bitch about “living wages” on day 1. Hard passoregonblitzkrieg said:
Again, they can hire their unskilled labor from the large pool of unemployed socialists. Two birds with one stone. Give these morons jerbs to support themselves and they won't have the time to attend antifa rallies or agitate for socialist revolution.MikeDamone said:
Unemployment is at historic lows (thanks Trump!). Everyone I talk to needs workers. Skilled and unskilled. Of course the media tells us the economy sucks, but that’s not reality.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Those jobs can be filled by unemployed socialists like @TheKobeStopperMikeDamone said:
It needs more of both as long as there are open and available jobs.oregonblitzkrieg said:
The US doesn't need more unskilled labor. The US doesn't need more immigrants. It needs less of both.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:More than 1/5 of the population is speaking a foreign tongue as their primary language. This points to the fact that we've got an immigration problem. Long past time to close the gates, and keep them closed for several decades, if not permanently.
What’s the problem, excatly. If they are contributing members of society we need them.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
You're a 'businessman' who wants open borders for the cheap labor, and you're rather hire immigrants who won't complain about living wages.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:
Get better advertising or piss off. There are millions of unemployed Americans to hire, there isn't a need to import more Mexicans to fill these jobs.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
What about Europeans. Can they be hired?
You’re suck a fucking simpleton. Yeah, I businessman trying to fill jobs just needs better advertising. You’re a fucking retard.
You want open borders for the cheap labor. You've lied about this, like you've lied about me saying that other races are inferior to whites. Your credibility is shot. What else have you been lying about?
I’d much rather have a hard working immigrant striving for the American dream than a piece of shit self entitled brat working for me. Like the dumb ass burger flippers who think they are owed a middle class lifestyle who aren’t willing to go get the skills for it.
I knew you were dumb, I just didn’t realize how dumb. A racist dumbfuck. You sound like David Duke.
You’re still too stupid to understand my position on borders. Yellow even laid it out for you and you still can’t figure it out. Idiot
1.) You are for open borders for cheap labor.
2.) You lied about this fact and denied it several times.
3.) You're a 'businessman' (allegedly) that hires people (allegedly).
4.) You don't want to pay a livable wage, and would rather hire immigrants over Americans because they won't complain about it. Seems racist to take advantage of people from other countries like that.
You don't allow for nuance in positions, so you won't be afforded any either.
You're a straight up, shit eating liar and it's been proven in this thread.
Still waiting for you to prove your lie that I said other races are inferior to whites.
Nice meltdown though. Racist windbag
My lowest compensated employee makes 100/hour. And he’s an immigrant. So fuck off. He’s a great guy, smart as fuck, works hard, and I’d rather have him as an American than your ugly gross racist ass.
You don't pay employees a $100/hr wage. It's unlikely you have any employees at all. You claim you'd rather hire an immigrant than someone who is going to 'bitch about about living wages on day 1.' But why would a Hondo Bro be bitching about living wages if you're paying him $100/hr? This would suggest rather that you 'hire' for low skilled occupations that don't pay much. Of course all of this is based on the assumption that you're even an employer at all, which is highly questionable, given your track record with the truth.
You’re an idiot.
My employees don’t bitch about living wages.
I would rather higher an immigrant than a HondoBros botching about living wages with nose rings, green hair and an entitled attitude. That doesn’t mean i have a business where I pay people low wages. Idiot
My employees make up to $150 an hour. Dumb racist cunt. A wage you’ve never sniffed.
Ask @DerekJohnson if I’m telling the truth. He knows me.
Tell us more about your white nation fantasy and then how you’re not a racist. -
Out of curiosity. What kind of business do you run?MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:
You see, the thing with habitual liars like you is this: even when you're telling the truth, and I doubt you are, you've got a serious credibility problem now and nothing you say can be believed. You've lied about and denied your open borders for cheap labor position. You can't even provide evidence that I said 'other races are inferior to whites, because I never said that, because it's a pack of lies and you're a shit eating liar.MikeDamone said:
I’m not for open borders for cheap labor no matter how many times you claim it.oregonblitzkrieg said:
It's all been laid out clearly in black and white, in your own words, thatMikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Not a single statement I made said I want open borders for cheap labor.oregonblitzkrieg said:You deny you're a liar, so I'll just post your own words and let them bury you.
MikeDamone said:I don't support open borders for cheap labor. My god you're sense
MikeDamone said:You’re still yelling about this?
Really, what threads are those where I made myself clear that show I said what you’re saying I did?
I am denying I support open boarders for cheap labor.MikeDamone said:
I’d rather hire a hardworking immigrant than a piece of shit green haired pierced lip lazy socialist antifa asshole HondoBro who is going to bitch about “living wages” on day 1. Hard passoregonblitzkrieg said:
Again, they can hire their unskilled labor from the large pool of unemployed socialists. Two birds with one stone. Give these morons jerbs to support themselves and they won't have the time to attend antifa rallies or agitate for socialist revolution.MikeDamone said:
Unemployment is at historic lows (thanks Trump!). Everyone I talk to needs workers. Skilled and unskilled. Of course the media tells us the economy sucks, but that’s not reality.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Those jobs can be filled by unemployed socialists like @TheKobeStopperMikeDamone said:
It needs more of both as long as there are open and available jobs.oregonblitzkrieg said:
The US doesn't need more unskilled labor. The US doesn't need more immigrants. It needs less of both.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:More than 1/5 of the population is speaking a foreign tongue as their primary language. This points to the fact that we've got an immigration problem. Long past time to close the gates, and keep them closed for several decades, if not permanently.
What’s the problem, excatly. If they are contributing members of society we need them.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
You're a 'businessman' who wants open borders for the cheap labor, and you're rather hire immigrants who won't complain about living wages.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:
Get better advertising or piss off. There are millions of unemployed Americans to hire, there isn't a need to import more Mexicans to fill these jobs.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
What about Europeans. Can they be hired?
You’re suck a fucking simpleton. Yeah, I businessman trying to fill jobs just needs better advertising. You’re a fucking retard.
You want open borders for the cheap labor. You've lied about this, like you've lied about me saying that other races are inferior to whites. Your credibility is shot. What else have you been lying about?
I’d much rather have a hard working immigrant striving for the American dream than a piece of shit self entitled brat working for me. Like the dumb ass burger flippers who think they are owed a middle class lifestyle who aren’t willing to go get the skills for it.
I knew you were dumb, I just didn’t realize how dumb. A racist dumbfuck. You sound like David Duke.
You’re still too stupid to understand my position on borders. Yellow even laid it out for you and you still can’t figure it out. Idiot
1.) You are for open borders for cheap labor.
2.) You lied about this fact and denied it several times.
3.) You're a 'businessman' (allegedly) that hires people (allegedly).
4.) You don't want to pay a livable wage, and would rather hire immigrants over Americans because they won't complain about it. Seems racist to take advantage of people from other countries like that.
You don't allow for nuance in positions, so you won't be afforded any either.
You're a straight up, shit eating liar and it's been proven in this thread.
Still waiting for you to prove your lie that I said other races are inferior to whites.
Nice meltdown though. Racist windbag
My lowest compensated employee makes 100/hour. And he’s an immigrant. So fuck off. He’s a great guy, smart as fuck, works hard, and I’d rather have him as an American than your ugly gross racist ass.
You don't pay employees a $100/hr wage. It's unlikely you have any employees at all. You claim you'd rather hire an immigrant than someone who is going to 'bitch about about living wages on day 1.' But why would a Hondo Bro be bitching about living wages if you're paying him $100/hr? This would suggest rather that you 'hire' for low skilled occupations that don't pay much. Of course all of this is based on the assumption that you're even an employer at all, which is highly questionable, given your track record with the truth.
You’re an idiot.
My employees don’t bitch about living wages.
I would rather higher an immigrant than a HondoBros botching about living wages with nose rings, green hair and an entitled attitude. That doesn’t mean i have a business where I pay people low wages. Idiot
My employees make up to $150 an hour. Dumb racist cunt. A wage you’ve never sniffed.
Ask @DerekJohnson if I’m telling the truth. He knows me.
Tell us more about your white nation fantasy and then how you’re not a racist. -
Immigration is good, not for the tax revenue. Immigrants appreciate this country for the OPPORTUNITY to better their lives and their families', the same motivation that brought our ancestors here. Immigrants help me make more money. The ones I've worked with are trustworthy and productive. I've never had a bad experience with a Latino worker. Americans not so much, like an 80% disappointment rate. They aren't reliable and cut corners. I like those who help me and appreciate the opportunity I provide. Win, win. Immigrants as a whole aren't a leach on the country and promote the idea of the American dream.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You have said that 95% of Americans are struggling to makes end meet. Then why is it a good policy to continue to import immigrants to compete with them for jobs and resources? It makes far more sense to shut immigration down, to relieve pressure on the American people and American workers. They don't need more competition.Baseman said:
I hire immigrants and pay them well. They're polite, they show up on time, they get the job done well and quickly. When they finish, they get paid. How refreshing.oregonblitzkrieg said:
It's all been laid out clearly in black and white, in your own words, thatMikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Not a single statement I made said I want open borders for cheap labor.oregonblitzkrieg said:You deny you're a liar, so I'll just post your own words and let them bury you.
MikeDamone said:I don't support open borders for cheap labor. My god you're sense
MikeDamone said:You’re still yelling about this?
Really, what threads are those where I made myself clear that show I said what you’re saying I did?
I am denying I support open boarders for cheap labor.MikeDamone said:
I’d rather hire a hardworking immigrant than a piece of shit green haired pierced lip lazy socialist antifa asshole HondoBro who is going to bitch about “living wages” on day 1. Hard passoregonblitzkrieg said:
Again, they can hire their unskilled labor from the large pool of unemployed socialists. Two birds with one stone. Give these morons jerbs to support themselves and they won't have the time to attend antifa rallies or agitate for socialist revolution.MikeDamone said:
Unemployment is at historic lows (thanks Trump!). Everyone I talk to needs workers. Skilled and unskilled. Of course the media tells us the economy sucks, but that’s not reality.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Those jobs can be filled by unemployed socialists like @TheKobeStopperMikeDamone said:
It needs more of both as long as there are open and available jobs.oregonblitzkrieg said:
The US doesn't need more unskilled labor. The US doesn't need more immigrants. It needs less of both.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:More than 1/5 of the population is speaking a foreign tongue as their primary language. This points to the fact that we've got an immigration problem. Long past time to close the gates, and keep them closed for several decades, if not permanently.
What’s the problem, excatly. If they are contributing members of society we need them.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
You're a 'businessman' who wants open borders for the cheap labor, and you're rather hire immigrants who won't complain about living wages.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:
Get better advertising or piss off. There are millions of unemployed Americans to hire, there isn't a need to import more Mexicans to fill these jobs.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
What about Europeans. Can they be hired?
You’re suck a fucking simpleton. Yeah, I businessman trying to fill jobs just needs better advertising. You’re a fucking retard.
You want open borders for the cheap labor. You've lied about this, like you've lied about me saying that other races are inferior to whites. Your credibility is shot. What else have you been lying about?
I’d much rather have a hard working immigrant striving for the American dream than a piece of shit self entitled brat working for me. Like the dumb ass burger flippers who think they are owed a middle class lifestyle who aren’t willing to go get the skills for it.
I knew you were dumb, I just didn’t realize how dumb. A racist dumbfuck. You sound like David Duke.
You’re still too stupid to understand my position on borders. Yellow even laid it out for you and you still can’t figure it out. Idiot
1.) You are for open borders for cheap labor.
2.) You lied about this fact and denied it several times.
3.) You're a 'businessman' (allegedly) that hires people (allegedly).
4.) You don't want to pay a livable wage, and would rather hire immigrants over Americans because they won't complain about it. Seems racist to take advantage of people from other countries like that.
You don't allow for nuance in positions, so you won't be afforded any either.
You're a straight up, shit eating liar and it's been proven in this thread.
Still waiting for you to prove your lie that I said other races are inferior to whites.
Their American counterparts bid high, want $ upfront then make excuses why they can't start on time. They cut corners; they don't meet deadlines. It's become the script.
The immigrants crave citizenship and will happily pay taxes for the right to live and work in a free country. The idea immigrants have stolen jobs from hard working Americans is laughable. 95% of Americans already struggle making ends meet. Without Walmart and goods made overseas those people are fucked. The cost of American manufacturing would drive the prices on goods high enough the majority of folks couldn't afford to buy them.
America is still about the opportunity for a better life. Work at McDonalds and mow lawns when your young, learn a skill or trade and carve out your future. It's easier than ever to start a manufacturing business in the states using overseas labor. Develop an idea, have the Chinese build it, sell it on Amazon.
I know several who do and make a better than good living.
You are suggesting that immigration is good because it increases tax revenue. How have increased tax revenues ever helped the American people? Taxes primarily benefit the permanent government bureaucracy, and are used for purposes they were never intended to be used for, like paying the retirement benefits of state and federal employees, and giving away billions in foreign aid, among other things. Want to relieve pressure on the American people? Cut taxes across the board and shrink government at all levels. Cut the ridiculous gas tax and watch the economy really take off.
Let the lazy and entitled suck on someone else's tit. Hard working Americans deserve affordable healthcare and education along with unemployment--equal to what they've paid in--when needed nothing more.
Sounds like your supporting giving entitled legacy Americans more time?
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You sellouts should move overseas. Please, leave. I don't CARE if immigrants want to better their lives or have the same motivation that brought our ancestors here. They can better their lives IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES. And maybe, just maybe while doing it, turn some of those shithole countries around and get them back on the right track.Baseman said:
Imitation is good, not for the tax revenue. Immigrants appreciate this country for the OPPORTUNITY to better their lives and their families', the same motivation that brought our ancestors here. Immigrants help me make more money. The ones I've worked with are trustworthy and productive. I've never had a bad experience with a Latino worker. Americans not so much, like an 80% disappointment rate. They aren't reliable and cut corners. I like those who help me and appreciate the opportunity I provide. Win, win. Immigrants as a whole aren't a leach on the country and promote the idea of the American dream.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You have said that 95% of Americans are struggling to makes end meet. Then why is it a good policy to continue to import immigrants to compete with them for jobs and resources? It makes far more sense to shut immigration down, to relieve pressure on the American people and American workers. They don't need more competition.Baseman said:
I hire immigrants and pay them well. They're polite, they show up on time, they get the job done well and quickly. When they finish, they get paid. How refreshing.oregonblitzkrieg said:
ItMikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Not a single statement I made said I want open borders for cheap labor.oregonblitzkrieg said:You deny you're a liar, so I'll just post your own words and let them bury you.
MikeDamone said:I don't support open borders for cheap labor. My god you're sense
MikeDamone said:You’re still yelling about this?
Really, what threads are those where I made myself clear that show I said what you’re saying I did?
I am denying I support open boarders for cheap labor.MikeDamone said:
I’d rather hire a hardworking immigrant than a piece of shit green haired pierced lip lazy socialist antifa asshole HondoBro who is going to bitch about “living wages” on day 1. Hard passoregonblitzkrieg said:
Again, they can hire their unskilled labor from the large pool of unemployed socialists. Two birds with one stone. Give these morons jerbs to support themselves and they won't have the time to attend antifa rallies or agitate for socialist revolution.MikeDamone said:
Unemployment is at historic lows (thanks Trump!). Everyone I talk to needs workers. Skilled and unskilled. Of course the media tells us the economy sucks, but that’s not reality.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Those jobs can be filled by unemployed socialists like @TheKobeStopperMikeDamone said:
It needs more of both as long as there are open and available jobs.oregonblitzkrieg said:
The US doesn't need more unskilled labor. The US doesn't need more immigrants. It needs less of both.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:More than 1/5 of the population is speaking a foreign tongue as their primary language. This points to the fact that we've got an immigration problem. Long past time to close the gates, and keep them closed for several decades, if not permanently.
What’s the problem, excatly. If they are contributing members of society we need them.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
You're a 'businessman' who wants open borders for the cheap labor, and you're rather hire immigrants who won't complain about living wages.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:
Get better advertising or piss off. There are millions of unemployed Americans to hire, there isn't a need to import more Mexicans to fill these jobs.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
What about Europeans. Can they be hired?
You’re suck a fucking simpleton. Yeah, I businessman trying to fill jobs just needs better advertising. You’re a fucking retard.
You want open borders for the cheap labor. You've lied about this, like you've lied about me saying that other races are inferior to whites. Your credibility is shot. What else have you been lying about?
I’d much rather have a hard working immigrant striving for the American dream than a piece of shit self entitled brat working for me. Like the dumb ass burger flippers who think they are owed a middle class lifestyle who aren’t willing to go get the skills for it.
I knew you were dumb, I just didn’t realize how dumb. A racist dumbfuck. You sound like David Duke.
You’re still too stupid to understand my position on borders. Yellow even laid it out for you and you still can’t figure it out. Idiot
You're a straight up, shit eating liar and it's been proven in this thread.
Still waiting for you to prove your lie that I said other races are inferior to whites.
Their American counterparts bid high, want $ upfront then make excuses why they can't start on time. They cut corners; they don't meet deadlines. It's become the script.
The immigrants crave citizenship and will happily pay taxes for the right to live and work in a free country. The idea immigrants have stolen jobs from hard working Americans is laughable. 95% of Americans already struggle making ends meet. Without Walmart and goods made overseas those people are fucked. The cost of American manufacturing would drive the prices on goods high enough the majority of folks couldn't afford to buy them.
America is still about the opportunity for a better life. Work at McDonalds and mow lawns when your young, learn a skill or trade and carve out your future. It's easier than ever to start a manufacturing business in the states using overseas labor. Develop an idea, have the Chinese build it, sell it on Amazon.
I know several who do and make a better than good living.
You are suggesting that immigration is good because it increases tax revenue. How have increased tax revenues ever helped the American people? Taxes primarily benefit the permanent government bureaucracy, and are used for purposes they were never intended to be used for, like paying the retirement benefits of state and federal employees, and giving away billions in foreign aid, among other things. Want to relieve pressure on the American people? Cut taxes across the board and shrink government at all levels. Cut the ridiculous gas tax and watch the economy really take off.
Let the lazy and entitled suck on someone else's tit. Hard working Americans deserve affordable healthcare and education along with unemployment--equal to what they've paid in--when needed nothing more.
Sounds like your supporting giving entitled legacy Americans more time?
But, that's not really what you care about. It's your own bottom line. You sound like you're of the open borders republican school of thought (doesn't mean you're actually a republican) who want immigration for the cheap labor.
Again, piss off. You guys are a big part of the reason Trump got elected in the first place. Just as bad as the Soros democrats, who want open borders to change demographics in order to get votes and install a permanent 1 party government like they've done in the states on the west coast.
Open borders, it's not going to happen here. It's going to get shut down. -
Ergo decedo logical fallacy. And that’s just the first one.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You sellouts should move overseas. Please, leave. I don't CARE if immigrants want to better their lives or have the same motivation that brought our ancestors here. They can better their lives IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES. And maybe, just maybe while doing it, turn some of those shithole countries around and get them back on the right track.Baseman said:
Imitation is good, not for the tax revenue. Immigrants appreciate this country for the OPPORTUNITY to better their lives and their families', the same motivation that brought our ancestors here. Immigrants help me make more money. The ones I've worked with are trustworthy and productive. I've never had a bad experience with a Latino worker. Americans not so much, like an 80% disappointment rate. They aren't reliable and cut corners. I like those who help me and appreciate the opportunity I provide. Win, win. Immigrants as a whole aren't a leach on the country and promote the idea of the American dream.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You have said that 95% of Americans are struggling to makes end meet. Then why is it a good policy to continue to import immigrants to compete with them for jobs and resources? It makes far more sense to shut immigration down, to relieve pressure on the American people and American workers. They don't need more competition.Baseman said:
I hire immigrants and pay them well. They're polite, they show up on time, they get the job done well and quickly. When they finish, they get paid. How refreshing.oregonblitzkrieg said:
ItMikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Not a single statement I made said I want open borders for cheap labor.oregonblitzkrieg said:You deny you're a liar, so I'll just post your own words and let them bury you.
MikeDamone said:I don't support open borders for cheap labor. My god you're sense
MikeDamone said:You’re still yelling about this?
Really, what threads are those where I made myself clear that show I said what you’re saying I did?
I am denying I support open boarders for cheap labor.MikeDamone said:
I’d rather hire a hardworking immigrant than a piece of shit green haired pierced lip lazy socialist antifa asshole HondoBro who is going to bitch about “living wages” on day 1. Hard passoregonblitzkrieg said:
Again, they can hire their unskilled labor from the large pool of unemployed socialists. Two birds with one stone. Give these morons jerbs to support themselves and they won't have the time to attend antifa rallies or agitate for socialist revolution.MikeDamone said:
Unemployment is at historic lows (thanks Trump!). Everyone I talk to needs workers. Skilled and unskilled. Of course the media tells us the economy sucks, but that’s not reality.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Those jobs can be filled by unemployed socialists like @TheKobeStopperMikeDamone said:
It needs more of both as long as there are open and available jobs.oregonblitzkrieg said:
The US doesn't need more unskilled labor. The US doesn't need more immigrants. It needs less of both.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:More than 1/5 of the population is speaking a foreign tongue as their primary language. This points to the fact that we've got an immigration problem. Long past time to close the gates, and keep them closed for several decades, if not permanently.
What’s the problem, excatly. If they are contributing members of society we need them.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
You're a 'businessman' who wants open borders for the cheap labor, and you're rather hire immigrants who won't complain about living wages.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:
Get better advertising or piss off. There are millions of unemployed Americans to hire, there isn't a need to import more Mexicans to fill these jobs.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
What about Europeans. Can they be hired?
You’re suck a fucking simpleton. Yeah, I businessman trying to fill jobs just needs better advertising. You’re a fucking retard.
You want open borders for the cheap labor. You've lied about this, like you've lied about me saying that other races are inferior to whites. Your credibility is shot. What else have you been lying about?
I’d much rather have a hard working immigrant striving for the American dream than a piece of shit self entitled brat working for me. Like the dumb ass burger flippers who think they are owed a middle class lifestyle who aren’t willing to go get the skills for it.
I knew you were dumb, I just didn’t realize how dumb. A racist dumbfuck. You sound like David Duke.
You’re still too stupid to understand my position on borders. Yellow even laid it out for you and you still can’t figure it out. Idiot
You're a straight up, shit eating liar and it's been proven in this thread.
Still waiting for you to prove your lie that I said other races are inferior to whites.
Their American counterparts bid high, want $ upfront then make excuses why they can't start on time. They cut corners; they don't meet deadlines. It's become the script.
The immigrants crave citizenship and will happily pay taxes for the right to live and work in a free country. The idea immigrants have stolen jobs from hard working Americans is laughable. 95% of Americans already struggle making ends meet. Without Walmart and goods made overseas those people are fucked. The cost of American manufacturing would drive the prices on goods high enough the majority of folks couldn't afford to buy them.
America is still about the opportunity for a better life. Work at McDonalds and mow lawns when your young, learn a skill or trade and carve out your future. It's easier than ever to start a manufacturing business in the states using overseas labor. Develop an idea, have the Chinese build it, sell it on Amazon.
I know several who do and make a better than good living.
You are suggesting that immigration is good because it increases tax revenue. How have increased tax revenues ever helped the American people? Taxes primarily benefit the permanent government bureaucracy, and are used for purposes they were never intended to be used for, like paying the retirement benefits of state and federal employees, and giving away billions in foreign aid, among other things. Want to relieve pressure on the American people? Cut taxes across the board and shrink government at all levels. Cut the ridiculous gas tax and watch the economy really take off.
Let the lazy and entitled suck on someone else's tit. Hard working Americans deserve affordable healthcare and education along with unemployment--equal to what they've paid in--when needed nothing more.
Sounds like your supporting giving entitled legacy Americans more time?
But, that's not really what you care about. It's your own bottom line. You sound like you're of the open borders republican school of thought (doesn't mean you're actually a republican) who want immigration for the cheap labor.
Again, piss off. You guys are a big part of the reason Trump got elected in the first place. Just as bad as the Soros democrats, who want open borders to change demographics in order to get votes and install a permanent 1 party government like they've done in the states on the west coast.
Open borders, it's not going to happen here. It's going to get shut down.
-
Sorry, I don't speak cuck.MikeDamone said:
Ergo decedo logical fallacy. And that’s just the first one.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You sellouts should move overseas. Please, leave. I don't CARE if immigrants want to better their lives or have the same motivation that brought our ancestors here. They can better their lives IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES. And maybe, just maybe while doing it, turn some of those shithole countries around and get them back on the right track.Baseman said:
Imitation is good, not for the tax revenue. Immigrants appreciate this country for the OPPORTUNITY to better their lives and their families', the same motivation that brought our ancestors here. Immigrants help me make more money. The ones I've worked with are trustworthy and productive. I've never had a bad experience with a Latino worker. Americans not so much, like an 80% disappointment rate. They aren't reliable and cut corners. I like those who help me and appreciate the opportunity I provide. Win, win. Immigrants as a whole aren't a leach on the country and promote the idea of the American dream.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You have said that 95% of Americans are struggling to makes end meet. Then why is it a good policy to continue to import immigrants to compete with them for jobs and resources? It makes far more sense to shut immigration down, to relieve pressure on the American people and American workers. They don't need more competition.Baseman said:
I hire immigrants and pay them well. They're polite, they show up on time, they get the job done well and quickly. When they finish, they get paid. How refreshing.oregonblitzkrieg said:
ItMikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Not a single statement I made said I want open borders for cheap labor.oregonblitzkrieg said:You deny you're a liar, so I'll just post your own words and let them bury you.
MikeDamone said:I don't support open borders for cheap labor. My god you're sense
MikeDamone said:You’re still yelling about this?
Really, what threads are those where I made myself clear that show I said what you’re saying I did?
I am denying I support open boarders for cheap labor.MikeDamone said:
I’d rather hire a hardworking immigrant than a piece of shit green haired pierced lip lazy socialist antifa asshole HondoBro who is going to bitch about “living wages” on day 1. Hard passoregonblitzkrieg said:
Again, they can hire their unskilled labor from the large pool of unemployed socialists. Two birds with one stone. Give these morons jerbs to support themselves and they won't have the time to attend antifa rallies or agitate for socialist revolution.MikeDamone said:
Unemployment is at historic lows (thanks Trump!). Everyone I talk to needs workers. Skilled and unskilled. Of course the media tells us the economy sucks, but that’s not reality.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Those jobs can be filled by unemployed socialists like @TheKobeStopperMikeDamone said:
It needs more of both as long as there are open and available jobs.oregonblitzkrieg said:
The US doesn't need more unskilled labor. The US doesn't need more immigrants. It needs less of both.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:More than 1/5 of the population is speaking a foreign tongue as their primary language. This points to the fact that we've got an immigration problem. Long past time to close the gates, and keep them closed for several decades, if not permanently.
What’s the problem, excatly. If they are contributing members of society we need them.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
You're a 'businessman' who wants open borders for the cheap labor, and you're rather hire immigrants who won't complain about living wages.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:
Get better advertising or piss off. There are millions of unemployed Americans to hire, there isn't a need to import more Mexicans to fill these jobs.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
What about Europeans. Can they be hired?
You’re suck a fucking simpleton. Yeah, I businessman trying to fill jobs just needs better advertising. You’re a fucking retard.
You want open borders for the cheap labor. You've lied about this, like you've lied about me saying that other races are inferior to whites. Your credibility is shot. What else have you been lying about?
I’d much rather have a hard working immigrant striving for the American dream than a piece of shit self entitled brat working for me. Like the dumb ass burger flippers who think they are owed a middle class lifestyle who aren’t willing to go get the skills for it.
I knew you were dumb, I just didn’t realize how dumb. A racist dumbfuck. You sound like David Duke.
You’re still too stupid to understand my position on borders. Yellow even laid it out for you and you still can’t figure it out. Idiot
You're a straight up, shit eating liar and it's been proven in this thread.
Still waiting for you to prove your lie that I said other races are inferior to whites.
Their American counterparts bid high, want $ upfront then make excuses why they can't start on time. They cut corners; they don't meet deadlines. It's become the script.
The immigrants crave citizenship and will happily pay taxes for the right to live and work in a free country. The idea immigrants have stolen jobs from hard working Americans is laughable. 95% of Americans already struggle making ends meet. Without Walmart and goods made overseas those people are fucked. The cost of American manufacturing would drive the prices on goods high enough the majority of folks couldn't afford to buy them.
America is still about the opportunity for a better life. Work at McDonalds and mow lawns when your young, learn a skill or trade and carve out your future. It's easier than ever to start a manufacturing business in the states using overseas labor. Develop an idea, have the Chinese build it, sell it on Amazon.
I know several who do and make a better than good living.
You are suggesting that immigration is good because it increases tax revenue. How have increased tax revenues ever helped the American people? Taxes primarily benefit the permanent government bureaucracy, and are used for purposes they were never intended to be used for, like paying the retirement benefits of state and federal employees, and giving away billions in foreign aid, among other things. Want to relieve pressure on the American people? Cut taxes across the board and shrink government at all levels. Cut the ridiculous gas tax and watch the economy really take off.
Let the lazy and entitled suck on someone else's tit. Hard working Americans deserve affordable healthcare and education along with unemployment--equal to what they've paid in--when needed nothing more.
Sounds like your supporting giving entitled legacy Americans more time?
But, that's not really what you care about. It's your own bottom line. You sound like you're of the open borders republican school of thought (doesn't mean you're actually a republican) who want immigration for the cheap labor.
Again, piss off. You guys are a big part of the reason Trump got elected in the first place. Just as bad as the Soros democrats, who want open borders to change demographics in order to get votes and install a permanent 1 party government like they've done in the states on the west coast.
Open borders, it's not going to happen here. It's going to get shut down. -
This guy, talks in one breath about how 95% of Americans are struggling to make ends meet, then goes on to explain the 'benefits' of importing more immigrants. Might want to inject some LOGIC in your thought processes. What you open borders idiots are proposing will eventually lead to more ethnic animosity and even conflict if you manage to do to the United States what Merkel's policies have done to European countries like Sweden. According the Swedish Defense University, Sweden is on a trajectory for Civil War over their government's disastrous immigration policies. Soros is so proud. He's winning in Europe, and he wants to export his destructive plans here.
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I'm a democrat, but anyways. Ironic you insulate I'm a Trumper. You pine for American manufacturing, the industry Trump promised he'd restore. He lied. If you're a true disciple, turn in your Apple devices, your PCs, your TVs and your "American made" auto. I didn't think so.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You sellouts should move overseas. Please, leave. I don't CARE if immigrants want to better their lives or have the same motivation that brought our ancestors here. They can better their lives IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES. And maybe, just maybe while doing it, turn some of those shithole countries around and get them back on the right track.Baseman said:
Imitation is good, not for the tax revenue. Immigrants appreciate this country for the OPPORTUNITY to better their lives and their families', the same motivation that brought our ancestors here. Immigrants help me make more money. The ones I've worked with are trustworthy and productive. I've never had a bad experience with a Latino worker. Americans not so much, like an 80% disappointment rate. They aren't reliable and cut corners. I like those who help me and appreciate the opportunity I provide. Win, win. Immigrants as a whole aren't a leach on the country and promote the idea of the American dream.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You have said that 95% of Americans are struggling to makes end meet. Then why is it a good policy to continue to import immigrants to compete with them for jobs and resources? It makes far more sense to shut immigration down, to relieve pressure on the American people and American workers. They don't need more competition.Baseman said:
I hire immigrants and pay them well. They're polite, they show up on time, they get the job done well and quickly. When they finish, they get paid. How refreshing.oregonblitzkrieg said:
ItMikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Not a single statement I made said I want open borders for cheap labor.oregonblitzkrieg said:You deny you're a liar, so I'll just post your own words and let them bury you.
MikeDamone said:I don't support open borders for cheap labor. My god you're sense
MikeDamone said:You’re still yelling about this?
Really, what threads are those where I made myself clear that show I said what you’re saying I did?
I am denying I support open boarders for cheap labor.MikeDamone said:
I’d rather hire a hardworking immigrant than a piece of shit green haired pierced lip lazy socialist antifa asshole HondoBro who is going to bitch about “living wages” on day 1. Hard passoregonblitzkrieg said:
Again, they can hire their unskilled labor from the large pool of unemployed socialists. Two birds with one stone. Give these morons jerbs to support themselves and they won't have the time to attend antifa rallies or agitate for socialist revolution.MikeDamone said:
Unemployment is at historic lows (thanks Trump!). Everyone I talk to needs workers. Skilled and unskilled. Of course the media tells us the economy sucks, but that’s not reality.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Those jobs can be filled by unemployed socialists like @TheKobeStopperMikeDamone said:
It needs more of both as long as there are open and available jobs.oregonblitzkrieg said:
The US doesn't need more unskilled labor. The US doesn't need more immigrants. It needs less of both.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:More than 1/5 of the population is speaking a foreign tongue as their primary language. This points to the fact that we've got an immigration problem. Long past time to close the gates, and keep them closed for several decades, if not permanently.
What’s the problem, excatly. If they are contributing members of society we need them.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
You're a 'businessman' who wants open borders for the cheap labor, and you're rather hire immigrants who won't complain about living wages.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:
Get better advertising or piss off. There are millions of unemployed Americans to hire, there isn't a need to import more Mexicans to fill these jobs.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
What about Europeans. Can they be hired?
You’re suck a fucking simpleton. Yeah, I businessman trying to fill jobs just needs better advertising. You’re a fucking retard.
You want open borders for the cheap labor. You've lied about this, like you've lied about me saying that other races are inferior to whites. Your credibility is shot. What else have you been lying about?
I’d much rather have a hard working immigrant striving for the American dream than a piece of shit self entitled brat working for me. Like the dumb ass burger flippers who think they are owed a middle class lifestyle who aren’t willing to go get the skills for it.
I knew you were dumb, I just didn’t realize how dumb. A racist dumbfuck. You sound like David Duke.
You’re still too stupid to understand my position on borders. Yellow even laid it out for you and you still can’t figure it out. Idiot
You're a straight up, shit eating liar and it's been proven in this thread.
Still waiting for you to prove your lie that I said other races are inferior to whites.
Their American counterparts bid high, want $ upfront then make excuses why they can't start on time. They cut corners; they don't meet deadlines. It's become the script.
The immigrants crave citizenship and will happily pay taxes for the right to live and work in a free country. The idea immigrants have stolen jobs from hard working Americans is laughable. 95% of Americans already struggle making ends meet. Without Walmart and goods made overseas those people are fucked. The cost of American manufacturing would drive the prices on goods high enough the majority of folks couldn't afford to buy them.
America is still about the opportunity for a better life. Work at McDonalds and mow lawns when your young, learn a skill or trade and carve out your future. It's easier than ever to start a manufacturing business in the states using overseas labor. Develop an idea, have the Chinese build it, sell it on Amazon.
I know several who do and make a better than good living.
You are suggesting that immigration is good because it increases tax revenue. How have increased tax revenues ever helped the American people? Taxes primarily benefit the permanent government bureaucracy, and are used for purposes they were never intended to be used for, like paying the retirement benefits of state and federal employees, and giving away billions in foreign aid, among other things. Want to relieve pressure on the American people? Cut taxes across the board and shrink government at all levels. Cut the ridiculous gas tax and watch the economy really take off.
Let the lazy and entitled suck on someone else's tit. Hard working Americans deserve affordable healthcare and education along with unemployment--equal to what they've paid in--when needed nothing more.
Sounds like your supporting giving entitled legacy Americans more time?
But, that's not really what you care about. It's your own bottom line. You sound like you're of the open borders republican school of thought (doesn't mean you're actually a republican) who want immigration for the cheap labor.
Again, piss off. You guys are a big part of the reason Trump got elected in the first place. Just as bad as the Soros democrats, who want open borders to change demographics in order to get votes and install a permanent 1 party government like they've done in the states on the west coast.
Open borders, it's not going to happen here. It's going to get shut down.
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This point is valid. Your immigration stance is not. Continuing to import foreigners on a massive scale every year when "95% of the country is struggling to makes ends meet" is little more than a recipe for disaster somewhere down the road.
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I knew you’d be to dumb to understandoregonblitzkrieg said:
Sorry, I don't speak cuck.MikeDamone said:
Ergo decedo logical fallacy. And that’s just the first one.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You sellouts should move overseas. Please, leave. I don't CARE if immigrants want to better their lives or have the same motivation that brought our ancestors here. They can better their lives IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES. And maybe, just maybe while doing it, turn some of those shithole countries around and get them back on the right track.Baseman said:
Imitation is good, not for the tax revenue. Immigrants appreciate this country for the OPPORTUNITY to better their lives and their families', the same motivation that brought our ancestors here. Immigrants help me make more money. The ones I've worked with are trustworthy and productive. I've never had a bad experience with a Latino worker. Americans not so much, like an 80% disappointment rate. They aren't reliable and cut corners. I like those who help me and appreciate the opportunity I provide. Win, win. Immigrants as a whole aren't a leach on the country and promote the idea of the American dream.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You have said that 95% of Americans are struggling to makes end meet. Then why is it a good policy to continue to import immigrants to compete with them for jobs and resources? It makes far more sense to shut immigration down, to relieve pressure on the American people and American workers. They don't need more competition.Baseman said:
I hire immigrants and pay them well. They're polite, they show up on time, they get the job done well and quickly. When they finish, they get paid. How refreshing.oregonblitzkrieg said:
ItMikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Not a single statement I made said I want open borders for cheap labor.oregonblitzkrieg said:You deny you're a liar, so I'll just post your own words and let them bury you.
MikeDamone said:I don't support open borders for cheap labor. My god you're sense
MikeDamone said:You’re still yelling about this?
Really, what threads are those where I made myself clear that show I said what you’re saying I did?
I am denying I support open boarders for cheap labor.MikeDamone said:
I’d rather hire a hardworking immigrant than a piece of shit green haired pierced lip lazy socialist antifa asshole HondoBro who is going to bitch about “living wages” on day 1. Hard passoregonblitzkrieg said:
Again, they can hire their unskilled labor from the large pool of unemployed socialists. Two birds with one stone. Give these morons jerbs to support themselves and they won't have the time to attend antifa rallies or agitate for socialist revolution.MikeDamone said:
Unemployment is at historic lows (thanks Trump!). Everyone I talk to needs workers. Skilled and unskilled. Of course the media tells us the economy sucks, but that’s not reality.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Those jobs can be filled by unemployed socialists like @TheKobeStopperMikeDamone said:
It needs more of both as long as there are open and available jobs.oregonblitzkrieg said:
The US doesn't need more unskilled labor. The US doesn't need more immigrants. It needs less of both.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:More than 1/5 of the population is speaking a foreign tongue as their primary language. This points to the fact that we've got an immigration problem. Long past time to close the gates, and keep them closed for several decades, if not permanently.
What’s the problem, excatly. If they are contributing members of society we need them.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
You're a 'businessman' who wants open borders for the cheap labor, and you're rather hire immigrants who won't complain about living wages.MikeDamone said:oregonblitzkrieg said:
Get better advertising or piss off. There are millions of unemployed Americans to hire, there isn't a need to import more Mexicans to fill these jobs.MikeDamone said:
JFC you’re an idiot. Spend a day trying to find workers then pop off.oregonblitzkrieg said:
False. There are more than enough Americans to fill every job in America. We don't need to import any more foreigners. Top scientists only. Everyone else can stay put in their own nation.Dugdawg said:H-2A and H-2B temporary visa programs are a yuge part of the solution. This country would grind to a halt without them. I have never actually met anyone who wants truly "open" borders. That's just the usual bullshit binary argument.
What about Europeans. Can they be hired?
You’re suck a fucking simpleton. Yeah, I businessman trying to fill jobs just needs better advertising. You’re a fucking retard.
You want open borders for the cheap labor. You've lied about this, like you've lied about me saying that other races are inferior to whites. Your credibility is shot. What else have you been lying about?
I’d much rather have a hard working immigrant striving for the American dream than a piece of shit self entitled brat working for me. Like the dumb ass burger flippers who think they are owed a middle class lifestyle who aren’t willing to go get the skills for it.
I knew you were dumb, I just didn’t realize how dumb. A racist dumbfuck. You sound like David Duke.
You’re still too stupid to understand my position on borders. Yellow even laid it out for you and you still can’t figure it out. Idiot
You're a straight up, shit eating liar and it's been proven in this thread.
Still waiting for you to prove your lie that I said other races are inferior to whites.
Their American counterparts bid high, want $ upfront then make excuses why they can't start on time. They cut corners; they don't meet deadlines. It's become the script.
The immigrants crave citizenship and will happily pay taxes for the right to live and work in a free country. The idea immigrants have stolen jobs from hard working Americans is laughable. 95% of Americans already struggle making ends meet. Without Walmart and goods made overseas those people are fucked. The cost of American manufacturing would drive the prices on goods high enough the majority of folks couldn't afford to buy them.
America is still about the opportunity for a better life. Work at McDonalds and mow lawns when your young, learn a skill or trade and carve out your future. It's easier than ever to start a manufacturing business in the states using overseas labor. Develop an idea, have the Chinese build it, sell it on Amazon.
I know several who do and make a better than good living.
You are suggesting that immigration is good because it increases tax revenue. How have increased tax revenues ever helped the American people? Taxes primarily benefit the permanent government bureaucracy, and are used for purposes they were never intended to be used for, like paying the retirement benefits of state and federal employees, and giving away billions in foreign aid, among other things. Want to relieve pressure on the American people? Cut taxes across the board and shrink government at all levels. Cut the ridiculous gas tax and watch the economy really take off.
Let the lazy and entitled suck on someone else's tit. Hard working Americans deserve affordable healthcare and education along with unemployment--equal to what they've paid in--when needed nothing more.
Sounds like your supporting giving entitled legacy Americans more time?
But, that's not really what you care about. It's your own bottom line. You sound like you're of the open borders republican school of thought (doesn't mean you're actually a republican) who want immigration for the cheap labor.
Again, piss off. You guys are a big part of the reason Trump got elected in the first place. Just as bad as the Soros democrats, who want open borders to change demographics in order to get votes and install a permanent 1 party government like they've done in the states on the west coast.
Open borders, it's not going to happen here. It's going to get shut down.
