Are we a republic or not?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact
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We? are now a Facebook and Twitter likes nation.
Because basic civics and history are no longer taught in schools, there is no contextual basis or understanding of why the Founding Fathers set up the government the way they did. It's about the mob and polls and likes and retweets. Which only fuels the gathering storm of demands for governing by a pure democracy.
But but but slavery.....
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The Founding Fathers were just slave owners that were willing to murder to pay lower taxes and have opportunity for land grabs.PurpleThrobber said:We? are now a Facebook and Twitter likes nation.
Because basic civics and history are no longer taught in schools, there is no contextual basis or understanding of why the Founding Fathers set up the government the way they did. It's about the mob and polls and likes and retweets. Which only fuels the gathering storm of demands for governing by a pure democracy.
But but but slavery.....
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Not to mention they were WHITE MEN.
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WHITE slave owners willing to murder....ThomasFremont said:
The Founding Fathers were just slave owners that were willing to murder to pay lower taxes and have opportunity for land grabs.PurpleThrobber said:We? are now a Facebook and Twitter likes nation.
Because basic civics and history are no longer taught in schools, there is no contextual basis or understanding of why the Founding Fathers set up the government the way they did. It's about the mob and polls and likes and retweets. Which only fuels the gathering storm of demands for governing by a pure democracy.
But but but slavery.....
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I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
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Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
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Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
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All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
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And we know how that triggers you, especially if they are talking about abortion.ThomasFremont said:Not to mention they were WHITE MEN.
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You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
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The only response Hondo should ever get is ridicule and mockery. He is nothing more than a lying Kunt and a troll.
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Lol. You do know it's a free country, right? You can move wherever you want. It's nice and cozy over here in Spokane.DoogieMcDoogerson said:You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
I'm curious your take on this. As it sits right now, how will this effect the 2020 election? You want serious discussion so here's your chance. -
Those dudes are nothing but a bunch of slippery, gifted trolls.DoogieMcDoogerson said:You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
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You’re not curious or interested in a serious discussion. That much we know.2001400ex said:
Lol. You do know it's a free country, right? You can move wherever you want. It's nice and cozy over here in Spokane.DoogieMcDoogerson said:You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
I'm curious your take on this. As it sits right now, how will this effect the 2020 election? You want serious discussion so here's your chance. -
The burden is on you Hondo. Doogie made a statement. Your “argument” is “educate yourself”. Which is not an argument. I doubt you have one.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
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Why don't you answer the question? What effect will this have on the 2020 election?MikeDamone said:
You’re not curious or interested in a serious discussion. That much we know.2001400ex said:
Lol. You do know it's a free country, right? You can move wherever you want. It's nice and cozy over here in Spokane.DoogieMcDoogerson said:You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
I'm curious your take on this. As it sits right now, how will this effect the 2020 election? You want serious discussion so here's your chance. -
I asked him a question based directly on his thread topic, questioning his interpretation, and he's choosing to ignore it. Just like you are.MikeDamone said:
The burden is on you Hondo. Doogie made a statement. Your “argument” is “educate yourself”. Which is not an argument. I doubt you have one.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
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No. He gave an answer and you said “educate yourself”. No argument as usual. Dumbshit.2001400ex said:
I asked him a question based directly on his thread topic, questioning his interpretation, and he's choosing to ignore it. Just like you are.MikeDamone said:
The burden is on you Hondo. Doogie made a statement. Your “argument” is “educate yourself”. Which is not an argument. I doubt you have one.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
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I wasn’t asked a question dumb fuck.2001400ex said:
Why don't you answer the question? What effect will this have on the 2020 election?MikeDamone said:
You’re not curious or interested in a serious discussion. That much we know.2001400ex said:
Lol. You do know it's a free country, right? You can move wherever you want. It's nice and cozy over here in Spokane.DoogieMcDoogerson said:You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
I'm curious your take on this. As it sits right now, how will this effect the 2020 election? You want serious discussion so here's your chance.
I didn’t read the entire thread, but did anyone say there will be an effect in 2020? Or is this your normal strawman? Idiot -
The OP commented that one they get 270 electoral college votes, our republic will be over. I asked him how anything on the wiki page changes us from being a representative republic. He dodged it. I now ask you the same.MikeDamone said:
I wasn’t asked a question dumb fuck.2001400ex said:
Why don't you answer the question? What effect will this have on the 2020 election?MikeDamone said:
You’re not curious or interested in a serious discussion. That much we know.2001400ex said:
Lol. You do know it's a free country, right? You can move wherever you want. It's nice and cozy over here in Spokane.DoogieMcDoogerson said:You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
I'm curious your take on this. As it sits right now, how will this effect the 2020 election? You want serious discussion so here's your chance.
I didn’t read the entire thread, but did anyone say there will be an effect in 2020? Or is this your normal strawman? Idiot -
I thought you asked about 2020? Or some fucking thing. Do you even know what you asked?2001400ex said:
The OP commented that one they get 270 electoral college votes, our republic will be over. I asked him how anything on the wiki page changes us from being a representative republic. He dodged it. I now ask you the same.MikeDamone said:
I wasn’t asked a question dumb fuck.2001400ex said:
Why don't you answer the question? What effect will this have on the 2020 election?MikeDamone said:
You’re not curious or interested in a serious discussion. That much we know.2001400ex said:
Lol. You do know it's a free country, right? You can move wherever you want. It's nice and cozy over here in Spokane.DoogieMcDoogerson said:You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
I'm curious your take on this. As it sits right now, how will this effect the 2020 election? You want serious discussion so here's your chance.
I didn’t read the entire thread, but did anyone say there will be an effect in 2020? Or is this your normal strawman? Idiot
Also, he answered you:
“ Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.”
Are you going to respond or just say “educate yourself” and start asking about 2020? JFC you’re an idiot. -
Yes I also asked about 2020. And you both ignored that question. And his response has and this potential bill have nothing to do with American being a representative republic.MikeDamone said:
I thought you asked about 2020? Or some fucking thing. Do you even know what you asked?2001400ex said:
The OP commented that one they get 270 electoral college votes, our republic will be over. I asked him how anything on the wiki page changes us from being a representative republic. He dodged it. I now ask you the same.MikeDamone said:
I wasn’t asked a question dumb fuck.2001400ex said:
Why don't you answer the question? What effect will this have on the 2020 election?MikeDamone said:
You’re not curious or interested in a serious discussion. That much we know.2001400ex said:
Lol. You do know it's a free country, right? You can move wherever you want. It's nice and cozy over here in Spokane.DoogieMcDoogerson said:You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
I'm curious your take on this. As it sits right now, how will this effect the 2020 election? You want serious discussion so here's your chance.
I didn’t read the entire thread, but did anyone say there will be an effect in 2020? Or is this your normal strawman? Idiot
Also, he answered you:
“ Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.”
Are you going to respond or just say “educate yourself” and start asking about 2020? JFC you’re an idiot. -
Why ask me? I didn’t say anything about it.2001400ex said:
The OP commented that one they get 270 electoral college votes, our republic will be over. I asked him how anything on the wiki page changes us from being a representative republic. He dodged it. I now ask you the same.MikeDamone said:
I wasn’t asked a question dumb fuck.2001400ex said:
Why don't you answer the question? What effect will this have on the 2020 election?MikeDamone said:
You’re not curious or interested in a serious discussion. That much we know.2001400ex said:
Lol. You do know it's a free country, right? You can move wherever you want. It's nice and cozy over here in Spokane.DoogieMcDoogerson said:You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
I'm curious your take on this. As it sits right now, how will this effect the 2020 election? You want serious discussion so here's your chance.
I didn’t read the entire thread, but did anyone say there will be an effect in 2020? Or is this your normal strawman? Idiot
I ask you why didn’t you respond to his answer and why did you start asking about 2020?
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2001400ex said:
Yes I also asked about 2020. And you both ignored that question. And his response has and this potential bill have nothing to do with American being a representative republic.MikeDamone said:
I thought you asked about 2020? Or some fucking thing. Do you even know what you asked?2001400ex said:
The OP commented that one they get 270 electoral college votes, our republic will be over. I asked him how anything on the wiki page changes us from being a representative republic. He dodged it. I now ask you the same.MikeDamone said:
I wasn’t asked a question dumb fuck.2001400ex said:
Why don't you answer the question? What effect will this have on the 2020 election?MikeDamone said:
You’re not curious or interested in a serious discussion. That much we know.2001400ex said:
Lol. You do know it's a free country, right? You can move wherever you want. It's nice and cozy over here in Spokane.DoogieMcDoogerson said:You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
I'm curious your take on this. As it sits right now, how will this effect the 2020 election? You want serious discussion so here's your chance.
I didn’t read the entire thread, but did anyone say there will be an effect in 2020? Or is this your normal strawman? Idiot
Also, he answered you:
“ Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.”
Are you going to respond or just say “educate yourself” and start asking about 2020? JFC you’re an idiot.
Why are you on me about your “question”? I didn’t make any claims about anything. I didn’t take a position. I took a position on your strawman building ass about 2020. Which no one even mentioned.
Ok. Educate him on why it has nothing to do with being a representative republic rather than saying “educate yourself”. Set him straight. He is obviously misguided. Let’s read your rebuttal. You probably won’t. You’ll just keep yelling about why people won’t answer your question. Which he did. Maybe it’s not to your satisfaction and you disagree. That’s fine. I’m interested in your rebuttal argument. Hopefully better than “educate yourself”.
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Fucking technicality in your mind I guess whether we're a representative republic after this I say, this is a big change and yes, it fucks things up in terms of being a real republic with states where votes matter. You are apparently fine with this as it still satisfies your definition of a representative republic. We'll see if you're fine with it when your vote gets effectively switched and electoral votes go with the "pact" instead.
There are big economic and social differences between our states. I like things better when the state has it's say in the president and think that feels more like a republic. Technically, it still is - but realize this is just the step on the way to a pure popular vote for president which will have massive new side effects and really destroy our "republic." You will still argue that technically we will still be a republic when that happens because you can't have an adult conversation.
You asked another question about 2020 election and how this affects it? It doesn't. The dumbshit states don't add up to 270 so nothing actually happens in their fucking pact.2001400ex said:
Yes I also asked about 2020. And you both ignored that question. And his response has and this potential bill have nothing to do with American being a representative republic.MikeDamone said:
I thought you asked about 2020? Or some fucking thing. Do you even know what you asked?2001400ex said:
The OP commented that one they get 270 electoral college votes, our republic will be over. I asked him how anything on the wiki page changes us from being a representative republic. He dodged it. I now ask you the same.MikeDamone said:
I wasn’t asked a question dumb fuck.2001400ex said:
Why don't you answer the question? What effect will this have on the 2020 election?MikeDamone said:
You’re not curious or interested in a serious discussion. That much we know.2001400ex said:
Lol. You do know it's a free country, right? You can move wherever you want. It's nice and cozy over here in Spokane.DoogieMcDoogerson said:You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
I'm curious your take on this. As it sits right now, how will this effect the 2020 election? You want serious discussion so here's your chance.
I didn’t read the entire thread, but did anyone say there will be an effect in 2020? Or is this your normal strawman? Idiot
Also, he answered you:
“ Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.”
Are you going to respond or just say “educate yourself” and start asking about 2020? JFC you’re an idiot. -
Ok Hondo. It’s in you’re court.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Fucking technicality in your mind I guess whether we're a representative republic after this I say, this is a big change and yes, it fucks things up in terms of being a real republic with states where votes matter. You are apparently fine with this as it still satisfies your definition of a representative republic. We'll see if you're fine with it when your vote gets effectively switched and electoral votes go with the "pact" instead.
There are big economic and social differences between our states. I like things better when the state has it's say in the president and think that feels more like a republic. Technically, it still is - but realize this is just the step on the way to a pure popular vote for president which will have massive new side effects and really destroy our "republic." You will still argue that technically we will still be a republic when that happens because you can't have an adult conversation.
You asked another question about 2020 election and how this affects it? It doesn't. The dumbshit states don't add up to 270 so nothing actually happens in their fucking pact.2001400ex said:
Yes I also asked about 2020. And you both ignored that question. And his response has and this potential bill have nothing to do with American being a representative republic.MikeDamone said:
I thought you asked about 2020? Or some fucking thing. Do you even know what you asked?2001400ex said:
The OP commented that one they get 270 electoral college votes, our republic will be over. I asked him how anything on the wiki page changes us from being a representative republic. He dodged it. I now ask you the same.MikeDamone said:
I wasn’t asked a question dumb fuck.2001400ex said:
Why don't you answer the question? What effect will this have on the 2020 election?MikeDamone said:
You’re not curious or interested in a serious discussion. That much we know.2001400ex said:
Lol. You do know it's a free country, right? You can move wherever you want. It's nice and cozy over here in Spokane.DoogieMcDoogerson said:You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
I'm curious your take on this. As it sits right now, how will this effect the 2020 election? You want serious discussion so here's your chance.
I didn’t read the entire thread, but did anyone say there will be an effect in 2020? Or is this your normal strawman? Idiot
Also, he answered you:
“ Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.”
Are you going to respond or just say “educate yourself” and start asking about 2020? JFC you’re an idiot. -
The pact isn't in place. That's the point of my questions. It even says so right in your wiki page. This has been staring since 2006 and means nothing other than a few states have passed a law that won't take into effect unless a certain threshold is passed. Which it won't.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Fucking technicality in your mind I guess whether we're a representative republic after this I say, this is a big change and yes, it fucks things up in terms of being a real republic with states where votes matter. You are apparently fine with this as it still satisfies your definition of a representative republic. We'll see if you're fine with it when your vote gets effectively switched and electoral votes go with the "pact" instead.
There are big economic and social differences between our states. I like things better when the state has it's say in the president and think that feels more like a republic. Technically, it still is - but realize this is just the step on the way to a pure popular vote for president which will have massive new side effects and really destroy our "republic." You will still argue that technically we will still be a republic when that happens because you can't have an adult conversation.
You asked another question about 2020 election and how this affects it? It doesn't. The dumbshit states don't add up to 270 so nothing actually happens in their fucking pact.2001400ex said:
Yes I also asked about 2020. And you both ignored that question. And his response has and this potential bill have nothing to do with American being a representative republic.MikeDamone said:
I thought you asked about 2020? Or some fucking thing. Do you even know what you asked?2001400ex said:
The OP commented that one they get 270 electoral college votes, our republic will be over. I asked him how anything on the wiki page changes us from being a representative republic. He dodged it. I now ask you the same.MikeDamone said:
I wasn’t asked a question dumb fuck.2001400ex said:
Why don't you answer the question? What effect will this have on the 2020 election?MikeDamone said:
You’re not curious or interested in a serious discussion. That much we know.2001400ex said:
Lol. You do know it's a free country, right? You can move wherever you want. It's nice and cozy over here in Spokane.DoogieMcDoogerson said:You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
I'm curious your take on this. As it sits right now, how will this effect the 2020 election? You want serious discussion so here's your chance.
I didn’t read the entire thread, but did anyone say there will be an effect in 2020? Or is this your normal strawman? Idiot
Also, he answered you:
“ Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.”
Are you going to respond or just say “educate yourself” and start asking about 2020? JFC you’re an idiot.
Even if this were in place. It still doesn't change anything with the election of Congress, the powers of Congress, president or the supreme Court. All it would do is change the method of how the president is elected. -
What's wrong with asking clarifying questions Mike? That being said, I explained myself. HTHMikeDamone said:
Ok Hondo. It’s in you’re court.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Fucking technicality in your mind I guess whether we're a representative republic after this I say, this is a big change and yes, it fucks things up in terms of being a real republic with states where votes matter. You are apparently fine with this as it still satisfies your definition of a representative republic. We'll see if you're fine with it when your vote gets effectively switched and electoral votes go with the "pact" instead.
There are big economic and social differences between our states. I like things better when the state has it's say in the president and think that feels more like a republic. Technically, it still is - but realize this is just the step on the way to a pure popular vote for president which will have massive new side effects and really destroy our "republic." You will still argue that technically we will still be a republic when that happens because you can't have an adult conversation.
You asked another question about 2020 election and how this affects it? It doesn't. The dumbshit states don't add up to 270 so nothing actually happens in their fucking pact.2001400ex said:
Yes I also asked about 2020. And you both ignored that question. And his response has and this potential bill have nothing to do with American being a representative republic.MikeDamone said:
I thought you asked about 2020? Or some fucking thing. Do you even know what you asked?2001400ex said:
The OP commented that one they get 270 electoral college votes, our republic will be over. I asked him how anything on the wiki page changes us from being a representative republic. He dodged it. I now ask you the same.MikeDamone said:
I wasn’t asked a question dumb fuck.2001400ex said:
Why don't you answer the question? What effect will this have on the 2020 election?MikeDamone said:
You’re not curious or interested in a serious discussion. That much we know.2001400ex said:
Lol. You do know it's a free country, right? You can move wherever you want. It's nice and cozy over here in Spokane.DoogieMcDoogerson said:You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
I'm curious your take on this. As it sits right now, how will this effect the 2020 election? You want serious discussion so here's your chance.
I didn’t read the entire thread, but did anyone say there will be an effect in 2020? Or is this your normal strawman? Idiot
Also, he answered you:
“ Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.”
Are you going to respond or just say “educate yourself” and start asking about 2020? JFC you’re an idiot. -
Ummm...you do know that the electors are appointed by state legislatures, right? Who are representatives of the people in their state...2001400ex said:
The pact isn't in place. That's the point of my questions. It even says so right in your wiki page. This has been staring since 2006 and means nothing other than a few states have passed a law that won't take into effect unless a certain threshold is passed. Which it won't.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Fucking technicality in your mind I guess whether we're a representative republic after this I say, this is a big change and yes, it fucks things up in terms of being a real republic with states where votes matter. You are apparently fine with this as it still satisfies your definition of a representative republic. We'll see if you're fine with it when your vote gets effectively switched and electoral votes go with the "pact" instead.
There are big economic and social differences between our states. I like things better when the state has it's say in the president and think that feels more like a republic. Technically, it still is - but realize this is just the step on the way to a pure popular vote for president which will have massive new side effects and really destroy our "republic." You will still argue that technically we will still be a republic when that happens because you can't have an adult conversation.
You asked another question about 2020 election and how this affects it? It doesn't. The dumbshit states don't add up to 270 so nothing actually happens in their fucking pact.2001400ex said:
Yes I also asked about 2020. And you both ignored that question. And his response has and this potential bill have nothing to do with American being a representative republic.MikeDamone said:
I thought you asked about 2020? Or some fucking thing. Do you even know what you asked?2001400ex said:
The OP commented that one they get 270 electoral college votes, our republic will be over. I asked him how anything on the wiki page changes us from being a representative republic. He dodged it. I now ask you the same.MikeDamone said:
I wasn’t asked a question dumb fuck.2001400ex said:
Why don't you answer the question? What effect will this have on the 2020 election?MikeDamone said:
You’re not curious or interested in a serious discussion. That much we know.2001400ex said:
Lol. You do know it's a free country, right? You can move wherever you want. It's nice and cozy over here in Spokane.DoogieMcDoogerson said:You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
I'm curious your take on this. As it sits right now, how will this effect the 2020 election? You want serious discussion so here's your chance.
I didn’t read the entire thread, but did anyone say there will be an effect in 2020? Or is this your normal strawman? Idiot
Also, he answered you:
“ Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.”
Are you going to respond or just say “educate yourself” and start asking about 2020? JFC you’re an idiot.
Even if this were in place. It still doesn't change anything with the election of Congress, the powers of Congress, president or the supreme Court. All it would do is change the method of how the president is elected.
HTH. -
You do know that the history on the Constitution is that electors in the electoral college were free to vote for who they wished regardless how the state voted. So in the instance in 2000 or 2016, the electors could change their vote to follow the popular vote.MikeDamone said:
Ummm...you do know that the electors are appointed by state legislatures, right? Who are representatives of the people in their state...2001400ex said:
The pact isn't in place. That's the point of my questions. It even says so right in your wiki page. This has been staring since 2006 and means nothing other than a few states have passed a law that won't take into effect unless a certain threshold is passed. Which it won't.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Fucking technicality in your mind I guess whether we're a representative republic after this I say, this is a big change and yes, it fucks things up in terms of being a real republic with states where votes matter. You are apparently fine with this as it still satisfies your definition of a representative republic. We'll see if you're fine with it when your vote gets effectively switched and electoral votes go with the "pact" instead.
There are big economic and social differences between our states. I like things better when the state has it's say in the president and think that feels more like a republic. Technically, it still is - but realize this is just the step on the way to a pure popular vote for president which will have massive new side effects and really destroy our "republic." You will still argue that technically we will still be a republic when that happens because you can't have an adult conversation.
You asked another question about 2020 election and how this affects it? It doesn't. The dumbshit states don't add up to 270 so nothing actually happens in their fucking pact.2001400ex said:
Yes I also asked about 2020. And you both ignored that question. And his response has and this potential bill have nothing to do with American being a representative republic.MikeDamone said:
I thought you asked about 2020? Or some fucking thing. Do you even know what you asked?2001400ex said:
The OP commented that one they get 270 electoral college votes, our republic will be over. I asked him how anything on the wiki page changes us from being a representative republic. He dodged it. I now ask you the same.MikeDamone said:
I wasn’t asked a question dumb fuck.2001400ex said:
Why don't you answer the question? What effect will this have on the 2020 election?MikeDamone said:
You’re not curious or interested in a serious discussion. That much we know.2001400ex said:
Lol. You do know it's a free country, right? You can move wherever you want. It's nice and cozy over here in Spokane.DoogieMcDoogerson said:You are so fucking smart, obviously, and yet all you and CD is troll. Never a reasonable debate because you can't lower yourself to our level. Here is a fantastic issue to discuss yet you bring NOTHING to the table. Zero. You must live a miserable life if this is your fucking entertainment.
Why am I here? Because I'm surrounded by idiots like you. I live in Washington state and work in the fucking cesspool called Seattle. I literally have no one to talk about politics with except for guys who "get it" like @RaceBannon , @MikeDamone , and @Swaye - who actually seems like pretty smart fuckers. This board keeps me sane because I actually believe there are some people in this fucking state who aren't dipshits.
Cue the "Meltdown" response.2001400ex said:
All of that and you still don't answer what that has to do with being a representative republic. How about you educate yourself then come back.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.PurpleThrobber said:
Don't confuse curiosity with dumbfuckery.2001400ex said:I'm curious how that changes our structure of government from being a representative republic.
I'm curious your take on this. As it sits right now, how will this effect the 2020 election? You want serious discussion so here's your chance.
I didn’t read the entire thread, but did anyone say there will be an effect in 2020? Or is this your normal strawman? Idiot
Also, he answered you:
“ Because the mostly liberal states will pool their electoral votes in case one of them doesn't produce like it normally does ruining a fundamental way our republic form of government works. Can't wait until it backfires and California, Washington, and Oregon send all their electoral votes in for Ivanka. Of course this won't happen because this "pact" tips the scales against urban America which is why it must not happen.”
Are you going to respond or just say “educate yourself” and start asking about 2020? JFC you’re an idiot.
Even if this were in place. It still doesn't change anything with the election of Congress, the powers of Congress, president or the supreme Court. All it would do is change the method of how the president is elected.
HTH.
Many states now have laws that force electors how to vote. That already changed the method outlined in the Constitution.
Come on Mike, you are better than that. And you don't address what I even said.
