No quid pro quo
It wasn’t Donald Trump who released the promised military aid to Ukraine, but the State Department, after lawyers determined that the White House freeze on the funds was illegal, several sources have told Bloomberg.
Trump has claimed he released the aid on September 11. But five sources told Bloomberg that $141 million of the money was actually authorized to be released several days earlier after lawyers determined that the White House Office of Management and Budget and, therefore, the president, had no legal standing to block the funds. The decision was outlined in a classified memo to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, according to Bloomberg.
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/ukraine-aid-state-department-donald-trump-illegal-012318334.html
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Life is quid pro quo
But I’ll play that game.
Trump asked for Ukraine to investigate and threatens to withhold funds.
Ukraine doesn’t do anything and still gets paid.
That doesn’t sound like ‘something for something’ or ‘this for that’ which is the literal translation of ‘quid pro quo’. In fact, the payment was something for nothing - the exact opposite of ‘quid pro quo’
Progressives trying to coopt the definition of ancient Latin like they do with English words - ‘liberal’ comes to mind.
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I hope they look into north Korea we offered a bunch of stuff if they dump their nukes and we're punishing them until they do. HTH
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#TDSskrong #aclockworkshill2001400ex said:Of course the narrative now is quid pro quo isn't a crime. Lol
It wasn’t Donald Trump who released the promised military aid to Ukraine, but the State Department, after lawyers determined that the White House freeze on the funds was illegal, several sources have told Bloomberg.
Trump has claimed he released the aid on September 11. But five sources told Bloomberg that $141 million of the money was actually authorized to be released several days earlier after lawyers determined that the White House Office of Management and Budget and, therefore, the president, had no legal standing to block the funds. The decision was outlined in a classified memo to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, according to Bloomberg.
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/ukraine-aid-state-department-donald-trump-illegal-012318334.html -
You are smarter than that. If what is reported is true, Trump said he wouldn't give them money already promised unless they investigated a political opponent.PurpleThrobber said:Life is quid pro quo
But I’ll play that game.
Trump asked for Ukraine to investigate and threatens to withhold funds.
Ukraine doesn’t do anything and still gets paid.
That doesn’t sound like ‘something for something’ or ‘this for that’ which is the literal translation of ‘quid pro quo’. In fact, the payment was something for nothing - the exact opposite of ‘quid pro quo’
Progressives trying to coopt the definition of ancient Latin like they do with English words - ‘liberal’ comes to mind. -
Lol. Are you really trying to equate investigating a political opponent to trying to trying to end a nuclear risk?Sledog said:I hope they look into north Korea we offered a bunch of stuff if they dump their nukes and we're punishing them until they do. HTH
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I am smarter than 'that'. "That' being "you".2001400ex said:
You are smarter than that. If what is reported is true, Trump said he wouldn't give them money already promised unless they investigated a political opponent.PurpleThrobber said:Life is quid pro quo
But I’ll play that game.
Trump asked for Ukraine to investigate and threatens to withhold funds.
Ukraine doesn’t do anything and still gets paid.
That doesn’t sound like ‘something for something’ or ‘this for that’ which is the literal translation of ‘quid pro quo’. In fact, the payment was something for nothing - the exact opposite of ‘quid pro quo’
Progressives trying to coopt the definition of ancient Latin like they do with English words - ‘liberal’ comes to mind.
Did or did not the Ukraine get the money?
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According to this report, much later and only with State department intervention.PurpleThrobber said:
I am smarter than 'that'. "That' being "you".2001400ex said:
You are smarter than that. If what is reported is true, Trump said he wouldn't give them money already promised unless they investigated a political opponent.PurpleThrobber said:Life is quid pro quo
But I’ll play that game.
Trump asked for Ukraine to investigate and threatens to withhold funds.
Ukraine doesn’t do anything and still gets paid.
That doesn’t sound like ‘something for something’ or ‘this for that’ which is the literal translation of ‘quid pro quo’. In fact, the payment was something for nothing - the exact opposite of ‘quid pro quo’
Progressives trying to coopt the definition of ancient Latin like they do with English words - ‘liberal’ comes to mind.
Did or did not the Ukraine get the money? -
The answer is either "yes" or "No".2001400ex said:
According to this report, much later and only with State department intervention.PurpleThrobber said:
I am smarter than 'that'. "That' being "you".2001400ex said:
You are smarter than that. If what is reported is true, Trump said he wouldn't give them money already promised unless they investigated a political opponent.PurpleThrobber said:Life is quid pro quo
But I’ll play that game.
Trump asked for Ukraine to investigate and threatens to withhold funds.
Ukraine doesn’t do anything and still gets paid.
That doesn’t sound like ‘something for something’ or ‘this for that’ which is the literal translation of ‘quid pro quo’. In fact, the payment was something for nothing - the exact opposite of ‘quid pro quo’
Progressives trying to coopt the definition of ancient Latin like they do with English words - ‘liberal’ comes to mind.
Did or did not the Ukraine get the money?
Also acceptable would be "They Did" or "They Didn't".
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Still to be established: is the investigation happening BECAUSE its a political opponent? or because actual corruption?2001400ex said:
Lol. Are you really trying to equate investigating a political opponent to trying to trying to end a nuclear risk?Sledog said:I hope they look into north Korea we offered a bunch of stuff if they dump their nukes and we're punishing them until they do. HTH
This entire thing is presupposed by the idea that Trump is remotely concerned by running against Sleepy Joe Biden. Everyone with a half-brain understands Trump will wipe his ass with Biden in a general. ZERO need for Primary subterfuge.
But please, feel free to go fuck yourself. -
I don't like Biden and I won't really have a vote in the process as it'll be decided before Washington has the primaries. But if Biden gets the nod, he'll have a better chance against Trump than pence. I think Democrats would rather run against Trump really. But if he committed an impeachable offense so be it.pawz said:
Still to be established: is the investigation happening BECAUSE its a political opponent? or because actual corruption?2001400ex said:
Lol. Are you really trying to equate investigating a political opponent to trying to trying to end a nuclear risk?Sledog said:I hope they look into north Korea we offered a bunch of stuff if they dump their nukes and we're punishing them until they do. HTH
This entire thing is presupposed by the idea that Trump is remotely concerned by running against Biden. Everyone with a half-brain understands Trump will wipe his ass with Biden in a general. ZERO need for Primary subterfuge.
But please, feel free to go fuck yourself.
