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As to the OP, the irony of identity politics is that it's reinforcing a "white" voting block. It's going to solidify the "oppressive" politics it claims to the solution for.
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Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it. -
I've never said any such thing. If you don't live in the city I was employed by you're not paying. HTHcreepycoug said:
Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it.
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Not a slam on you Sled but the old canard that government workers took lower pay for greater benefits doesn't always pencil out. Many positions in the public sector are very competitive salary wise with the private sector and not only do you receive greater benefits it's damn near impossible for you to lose your job or to be laid off in an economic downturn.creepycoug said:
Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it.
Does a BART train operator really make that much less than a train operator in the private sector? Same for the janitorial and maintenance staff. -
No me you donkey. JFC. When you struggle you really struggle.Sledog said:
I've never said any such thing. If you don't live in the city I was employed by you're not paying. HTHcreepycoug said:
Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it.
And you have said such a thing. In fact, you just alluded to the thing you've said many times. Again.
Let easy be easy: you enjoy retirement in part on a payment you get once a month that is not funded out of your invested assets, but rather out of a trust funded and administered by the government. Public Pension. Taxpayers. Government. You. -
Let's not get distracted by Sled's freeloading and return to honoring the transsexuals who fought and bled at Bunker Hill.
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May we call for the death of all rent seeking professions? Hi @creepycoug !!UW_Doog_Bot said:
That's the trouble with socialism-light, it always requires more government intervention & control as rent seeking replaces competition in a free market.YellowSnow said:
It's just so god damned messy with the words these day. All the olds that love Trump love their Medicare but hate "socialism". So if the government is just picking up the tab, but doesn't control or own the means of production- i.e., docs and hospitals - is it really REAL socialism?SFGbob said:
Got it, it's Socialized medicine but it's not Socialism. It's healthcare that's paid for by the state but according to Hondo the stupid Kunt, it's not Socialism. And Bernie wants to "break up" ICE and the Border Patrol, but again, according to Hondo the lying Kunt, it's a lie to say Bernie wants to "dismantle" ICE and the Border Patrol.2001400ex said:
It's actually not socialism. Look up what socialism actually is. Look up the economies that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao had.SFGbob said:
Medicare for all is Socialism. It is socialized medicine. Quote the person who called it Communism.2001400ex said:
People call Medicare for all socialism and communism here on a daily basis. You are doing it in sheet thread right now. And you don't even see it. Sad!MikeDamone said:
Which no one did. Idiot.2001400ex said:
Calling a representative republic a democracy is closer than calling Medicare for all a communism. HTHMikeDamone said:Or pandering for votes? Since we don’t have a Democracy and no one person or group of people would be the “backbone” of it if we did, I’m going with pandering for votes. Maybe even using them as props.
And sledog says hello.
Hondo has his own words and meanings for words.
Healthcare is a perfect example. The government "fixed" our private market. Now the calls for single payer since there's a shrinking supply of larger and larger rent seeking corporations. Then, after single payer exists, there will be an oligopoly of rent seekers who give poor service while suckling at the public tit and we will have cries for state takeover just like PG&E. Then "real" socialismo where competition ceases to exist entirely and costs balloon while service and supply dwindle until the lights go off. -
I paid 9% of my salary into that trust fund out of my earnings. How hard is that for you to understand? My employer also paid in on my behalf every quarter. HTHcreepycoug said:
No me you donkey. JFC. When you struggle you really struggle.Sledog said:
I've never said any such thing. If you don't live in the city I was employed by you're not paying. HTHcreepycoug said:
Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it.
And you have said such a thing. In fact, you just alluded to the thing you've said many times. Again.
Let easy be easy: you enjoy retirement in part on a payment you get once a month that is not funded out of your invested assets, but rather out of a trust funded and administered by the government. Public Pension. Taxpayers. Government. You.
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Dole isn't just a pineapple.Sledog said:
My employer also paid in on my behalf every quarter. HTHcreepycoug said:
No me you donkey. JFC. When you struggle you really struggle.Sledog said:
I've never said any such thing. If you don't live in the city I was employed by you're not paying. HTHcreepycoug said:
Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it.
And you have said such a thing. In fact, you just alluded to the thing you've said many times. Again.
Let easy be easy: you enjoy retirement in part on a payment you get once a month that is not funded out of your invested assets, but rather out of a trust funded and administered by the government. Public Pension. Taxpayers. Government. You. -
I didn't have a choice! Wish I did. PERS has feelings. There investment strategies involve lots of feelings.HHusky said:
Dole isn't just a pineapple.Sledog said:
My employer also paid in on my behalf every quarter. HTHcreepycoug said:
No me you donkey. JFC. When you struggle you really struggle.Sledog said:
I've never said any such thing. If you don't live in the city I was employed by you're not paying. HTHcreepycoug said:
Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it.
And you have said such a thing. In fact, you just alluded to the thing you've said many times. Again.
Let easy be easy: you enjoy retirement in part on a payment you get once a month that is not funded out of your invested assets, but rather out of a trust funded and administered by the government. Public Pension. Taxpayers. Government. You.
