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You hit it pretty well on the head.SFGbob said:
Not a slam on you Sled but the old canard that government workers took lower pay for greater benefits doesn't always pencil out. Many positions in the public sector are very competitive salary wise with the private sector and not only do you receive greater benefits it's damn near impossible for you to lose your job or to be laid off in an economic downturn.creepycoug said:
Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it.
Does a BART train operator really make that much less than a train operator in the private sector? Same for the janitorial and maintenance staff.
Once the voting public catches on to the shenanigans of government employee unions, shits gonna change real fast. Some counties in Washington are starting to require union negotiations be open to the public.
Firing a government union employee is damned near impossible short of criminal conviction. -
I think it was like that 35 years ago. Now the government workers get as high or higher pay AND the sweet benefits. AbundanceSFGbob said:
Not a slam on you Sled but the old canard that government workers took lower pay for greater benefits doesn't always pencil out. Many positions in the public sector are very competitive salary wise with the private sector and not only do you receive greater benefits it's damn near impossible for you to lose your job or to be laid off in an economic downturn.creepycoug said:
Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it.
Does a BART train operator really make that much less than a train operator in the private sector? Same for the janitorial and maintenance staff. -
But teachers are heros.PurpleThrobber said:
You hit it pretty well on the head.SFGbob said:
Not a slam on you Sled but the old canard that government workers took lower pay for greater benefits doesn't always pencil out. Many positions in the public sector are very competitive salary wise with the private sector and not only do you receive greater benefits it's damn near impossible for you to lose your job or to be laid off in an economic downturn.creepycoug said:
Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it.
Does a BART train operator really make that much less than a train operator in the private sector? Same for the janitorial and maintenance staff.
Once the voting public catches on to the shenanigans of government employee unions, shits gonna change real fast. Some counties in Washington are starting to require union negotiations be open to the public.
Firing a government union employee is damned near impossible short of criminal conviction. -
All the teachers I know got big fat raises recently...but oh class sizes!!MikeDamone said:
But teachers are heros.PurpleThrobber said:
You hit it pretty well on the head.SFGbob said:
Not a slam on you Sled but the old canard that government workers took lower pay for greater benefits doesn't always pencil out. Many positions in the public sector are very competitive salary wise with the private sector and not only do you receive greater benefits it's damn near impossible for you to lose your job or to be laid off in an economic downturn.creepycoug said:
Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it.
Does a BART train operator really make that much less than a train operator in the private sector? Same for the janitorial and maintenance staff.
Once the voting public catches on to the shenanigans of government employee unions, shits gonna change real fast. Some counties in Washington are starting to require union negotiations be open to the public.
Firing a government union employee is damned near impossible short of criminal conviction. -
Several school levys in Washington went down in flames Tuesday.YellowSnow said:
All the teachers I know got big fat raises recently...but oh class sizes!!MikeDamone said:
But teachers are heros.PurpleThrobber said:
You hit it pretty well on the head.SFGbob said:
Not a slam on you Sled but the old canard that government workers took lower pay for greater benefits doesn't always pencil out. Many positions in the public sector are very competitive salary wise with the private sector and not only do you receive greater benefits it's damn near impossible for you to lose your job or to be laid off in an economic downturn.creepycoug said:
Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it.
Does a BART train operator really make that much less than a train operator in the private sector? Same for the janitorial and maintenance staff.
Once the voting public catches on to the shenanigans of government employee unions, shits gonna change real fast. Some counties in Washington are starting to require union negotiations be open to the public.
Firing a government union employee is damned near impossible short of criminal conviction.
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And now many districts are cutting budgets and facing being shortfalls. McCleary was fucking brilliant. Bunch of emotional bullshit stirred up by economic illiterates (teachers, their unions and state legislature)YellowSnow said:
All the teachers I know got big fat raises recently...but oh class sizes!!MikeDamone said:
But teachers are heros.PurpleThrobber said:
You hit it pretty well on the head.SFGbob said:
Not a slam on you Sled but the old canard that government workers took lower pay for greater benefits doesn't always pencil out. Many positions in the public sector are very competitive salary wise with the private sector and not only do you receive greater benefits it's damn near impossible for you to lose your job or to be laid off in an economic downturn.creepycoug said:
Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it.
Does a BART train operator really make that much less than a train operator in the private sector? Same for the janitorial and maintenance staff.
Once the voting public catches on to the shenanigans of government employee unions, shits gonna change real fast. Some counties in Washington are starting to require union negotiations be open to the public.
Firing a government union employee is damned near impossible short of criminal conviction. -
PurpleThrobber said:
Several school levys in Washington went down in flames Tuesday.YellowSnow said:
All the teachers I know got big fat raises recently...but oh class sizes!!MikeDamone said:
But teachers are heros.PurpleThrobber said:
You hit it pretty well on the head.SFGbob said:
Not a slam on you Sled but the old canard that government workers took lower pay for greater benefits doesn't always pencil out. Many positions in the public sector are very competitive salary wise with the private sector and not only do you receive greater benefits it's damn near impossible for you to lose your job or to be laid off in an economic downturn.creepycoug said:
Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it.
Does a BART train operator really make that much less than a train operator in the private sector? Same for the janitorial and maintenance staff.
Once the voting public catches on to the shenanigans of government employee unions, shits gonna change real fast. Some counties in Washington are starting to require union negotiations be open to the public.
Firing a government union employee is damned near impossible short of criminal conviction.
Good. I used to be a yes vote 100% of the time. I will never vote yes again. The unions stance against vouchers and charter schools is all I need to know. Fuck them. -
Why do you hate the kids, you slippery troll?!!MikeDamone said:
And now many districts are cutting budgets and facing being shortfalls. McCleary was fucking brilliant. Bunch of emotional bullshit stirred up by economic illiterates (teachers, their unions and state legislature)YellowSnow said:
All the teachers I know got big fat raises recently...but oh class sizes!!MikeDamone said:
But teachers are heros.PurpleThrobber said:
You hit it pretty well on the head.SFGbob said:
Not a slam on you Sled but the old canard that government workers took lower pay for greater benefits doesn't always pencil out. Many positions in the public sector are very competitive salary wise with the private sector and not only do you receive greater benefits it's damn near impossible for you to lose your job or to be laid off in an economic downturn.creepycoug said:
Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it.
Does a BART train operator really make that much less than a train operator in the private sector? Same for the janitorial and maintenance staff.
Once the voting public catches on to the shenanigans of government employee unions, shits gonna change real fast. Some counties in Washington are starting to require union negotiations be open to the public.
Firing a government union employee is damned near impossible short of criminal conviction.
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And on average work fewer hoursMikeDamone said:
I think it was like that 35 years ago. Now the government workers get as high or higher pay AND the sweet benefits. AbundanceSFGbob said:
Not a slam on you Sled but the old canard that government workers took lower pay for greater benefits doesn't always pencil out. Many positions in the public sector are very competitive salary wise with the private sector and not only do you receive greater benefits it's damn near impossible for you to lose your job or to be laid off in an economic downturn.creepycoug said:
Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it.
Does a BART train operator really make that much less than a train operator in the private sector? Same for the janitorial and maintenance staff. -
This was not your best effort, but on some level I admire your stamina.Sledog said:
I didn't have a choice! Wish I did. PERS has feelings. There investment strategies involve lots of feelings.HHusky said:
Dole isn't just a pineapple.Sledog said:
My employer also paid in on my behalf every quarter. HTHcreepycoug said:
No me you donkey. JFC. When you struggle you really struggle.Sledog said:
I've never said any such thing. If you don't live in the city I was employed by you're not paying. HTHcreepycoug said:
Whoa there sparky. Now you're trying to cram into this enlightened discussion an apology for the shame you feel for having sucked off the government tit.Sledog said:
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
Or are you still holding to this idea that your pension is but the sum total of amounts you paid in? All this time later, that is still not how pensions work. Your pension is funded by the tax payers. It's the difference between a defined benefit and defined contribution plan.
Don't be ashamed anymore. Come out into the light. You took lower pay for that benefit so nobody's mad at you. But come hell or high water, you were the government my friend. Not private sector like the cool kids. Accept it.
And you have said such a thing. In fact, you just alluded to the thing you've said many times. Again.
Let easy be easy: you enjoy retirement in part on a payment you get once a month that is not funded out of your invested assets, but rather out of a trust funded and administered by the government. Public Pension. Taxpayers. Government. You.
