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Alright, it wasn't that funny but damn I laughed out loud at this.MikeDamone said:
If tranny’s are the backbone of our nation or not.YellowSnow said:
JFC. What are we arguing about again?SFGbob said:
But in this instance the government isn't just controlling the purse strings.YellowSnow said:
There are plenty of for profit companies in the economy where the government controls the purse strings.Southerndawg said:
Who’s picking up the tab? Rhetorical question. The government does not pick up tabs. They confiscate revenue via taxes, borrow some more, and then spend it as they see fit.YellowSnow said:
It's just so god damned messy with the words these day. All the olds that love Trump love their Medicare but hate "socialism". So if the government is just picking up the tab, but doesn't control or own the means of production- i.e., docs and hospitals - is it really REAL socialism?SFGbob said:
Got it, it's Socialized medicine but it's not Socialism. It's healthcare that's paid for by the state but according to Hondo the stupid Kunt, it's not Socialism. And Bernie wants to "break up" ICE and the Border Patrol, but again, according to Hondo the lying Kunt, it's a lie to say Bernie wants to "dismantle" ICE and the Border Patrol.2001400ex said:
It's actually not socialism. Look up what socialism actually is. Look up the economies that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao had.SFGbob said:
Medicare for all is Socialism. It is socialized medicine. Quote the person who called it Communism.2001400ex said:
People call Medicare for all socialism and communism here on a daily basis. You are doing it in sheet thread right now. And you don't even see it. Sad!MikeDamone said:
Which no one did. Idiot.2001400ex said:
Calling a representative republic a democracy is closer than calling Medicare for all a communism. HTHMikeDamone said:Or pandering for votes? Since we don’t have a Democracy and no one person or group of people would be the “backbone” of it if we did, I’m going with pandering for votes. Maybe even using them as props.
And sledog says hello.
Hondo has his own words and meanings for words.
And do you really mean to parse the control over means of production when the purse strings ultimately dictate such and in this case there will be only one purse?
If you have a ice cream business, and I have the power to tell you what kind of ice cream you can sell, how much you can charge for that ice cream and who you have to sell or not sell that ice cream to, is that business still really yours? -
For starters don’t spend or encourage spending gob smacking amounts of money on indoctrination that will only result in lifelong debt and reinforce class envy. Get a skill or education in a high demand field. Doctors, Engineers, Plumbers, Electricians are writing their own checks. Sales is also a huge winner, especially in technical and medical arenas. Degrees in advanced Social Justice Warriorism are worth less than toilet paper unless you stay in academics. Resist that for a change.YellowSnow said:
You can still get tyranny of the majority in a Constitutional Republic. It just takes longer. The trend line, however, is the losers in our society wanting ever more from the winners. The big question is what can we do to lessen the number of losers.Southerndawg said:
The Constitutional Republic and my choice of career paths have been good to me, can’t complain overall. But it is most definitely better during times of low taxation and lessened government interference.YellowSnow said:
Hows your republican democracy treating your pocket book fren?Southerndawg said:
We’re not a democracy. They devolve Into mob rule. Guaranteed failure. Viva La Republica!YellowSnow said:
And it we want to go for full irony @Southerndawg it could be argued that an enlightened despot could in theory be a better guarantor of our life, liberty and property than democracy.Southerndawg said:
It’s state control of the largest segment of our economy (by employment). Nothing democratic about that. It’s statist, straight up.YellowSnow said:
It's more social democracy than socialism, but still, wealth transfer is wealth transfer.SFGbob said:
Medicare for all is Socialism. It is socialized medicine. Quote the person who called it Communism.2001400ex said:
People call Medicare for all socialism and communism here on a daily basis. You are doing it in sheet thread right now. And you don't even see it. Sad!MikeDamone said:
Which no one did. Idiot.2001400ex said:
Calling a representative republic a democracy is closer than calling Medicare for all a communism. HTHMikeDamone said:Or pandering for votes? Since we don’t have a Democracy and no one person or group of people would be the “backbone” of it if we did, I’m going with pandering for votes. Maybe even using them as props.
Then vote for a government that knows its place is out of your way. Elect people who understand the importance of limited government and genuinely believe in the ability of individuals to make life choices. Likewise, expect accountability in all directions.
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Really? Are you pulling my leg here?YellowSnow said:
JFC. What are we arguing about again?SFGbob said:
But in this instance the government isn't just controlling the purse strings.YellowSnow said:
There are plenty of for profit companies in the economy where the government controls the purse strings.Southerndawg said:
Who’s picking up the tab? Rhetorical question. The government does not pick up tabs. They confiscate revenue via taxes, borrow some more, and then spend it as they see fit.YellowSnow said:
It's just so god damned messy with the words these day. All the olds that love Trump love their Medicare but hate "socialism". So if the government is just picking up the tab, but doesn't control or own the means of production- i.e., docs and hospitals - is it really REAL socialism?SFGbob said:
Got it, it's Socialized medicine but it's not Socialism. It's healthcare that's paid for by the state but according to Hondo the stupid Kunt, it's not Socialism. And Bernie wants to "break up" ICE and the Border Patrol, but again, according to Hondo the lying Kunt, it's a lie to say Bernie wants to "dismantle" ICE and the Border Patrol.2001400ex said:
It's actually not socialism. Look up what socialism actually is. Look up the economies that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao had.SFGbob said:
Medicare for all is Socialism. It is socialized medicine. Quote the person who called it Communism.2001400ex said:
People call Medicare for all socialism and communism here on a daily basis. You are doing it in sheet thread right now. And you don't even see it. Sad!MikeDamone said:
Which no one did. Idiot.2001400ex said:
Calling a representative republic a democracy is closer than calling Medicare for all a communism. HTHMikeDamone said:Or pandering for votes? Since we don’t have a Democracy and no one person or group of people would be the “backbone” of it if we did, I’m going with pandering for votes. Maybe even using them as props.
And sledog says hello.
Hondo has his own words and meanings for words.
And do you really mean to parse the control over means of production when the purse strings ultimately dictate such and in this case there will be only one purse?
If you have a ice cream business, and I have the power to tell you what kind of ice cream you can sell, how much you can charge for that ice cream and who you have to sell or not sell that ice cream to, is that business still really yours? -
Nope. Just bottom line earnings. Commercial entities generate far more revenue and earnings.YellowSnow said:
Huh? The MI complex is long gone?Southerndawg said:
News flash. Those days are long gone.YellowSnow said:Southerndawg said:
Not really.YellowSnow said:
There are plenty of for profit companies in the economy where the government controls the purse strings.Southerndawg said:
Who’s picking up the tab? Rhetorical question. The government does not pick up tabs. They confiscate revenue via taxes, borrow some more, and then spend it as they see fit.YellowSnow said:
It's just so god damned messy with the words these day. All the olds that love Trump love their Medicare but hate "socialism". So if the government is just picking up the tab, but doesn't control or own the means of production- i.e., docs and hospitals - is it really REAL socialism?SFGbob said:
Got it, it's Socialized medicine but it's not Socialism. It's healthcare that's paid for by the state but according to Hondo the stupid Kunt, it's not Socialism. And Bernie wants to "break up" ICE and the Border Patrol, but again, according to Hondo the lying Kunt, it's a lie to say Bernie wants to "dismantle" ICE and the Border Patrol.2001400ex said:
It's actually not socialism. Look up what socialism actually is. Look up the economies that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao had.SFGbob said:
Medicare for all is Socialism. It is socialized medicine. Quote the person who called it Communism.2001400ex said:
People call Medicare for all socialism and communism here on a daily basis. You are doing it in sheet thread right now. And you don't even see it. Sad!MikeDamone said:
Which no one did. Idiot.2001400ex said:
Calling a representative republic a democracy is closer than calling Medicare for all a communism. HTHMikeDamone said:Or pandering for votes? Since we don’t have a Democracy and no one person or group of people would be the “backbone” of it if we did, I’m going with pandering for votes. Maybe even using them as props.
And sledog says hello.
Hondo has his own words and meanings for words.
And do you really mean to parse the control over means of production when the purse strings ultimately dictate such and in this case there will be only one purse?
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Insert Jason Bateman trying to reply gif to this ridiculously stupid post.Southerndawg said:
Nope. Just bottom line earnings. Commercial entities generate far more revenue and earnings.YellowSnow said:
Huh? The MI complex is long gone?Southerndawg said:
News flash. Those days are long gone.YellowSnow said:Southerndawg said:
Not really.YellowSnow said:
There are plenty of for profit companies in the economy where the government controls the purse strings.Southerndawg said:
Who’s picking up the tab? Rhetorical question. The government does not pick up tabs. They confiscate revenue via taxes, borrow some more, and then spend it as they see fit.YellowSnow said:
It's just so god damned messy with the words these day. All the olds that love Trump love their Medicare but hate "socialism". So if the government is just picking up the tab, but doesn't control or own the means of production- i.e., docs and hospitals - is it really REAL socialism?SFGbob said:
Got it, it's Socialized medicine but it's not Socialism. It's healthcare that's paid for by the state but according to Hondo the stupid Kunt, it's not Socialism. And Bernie wants to "break up" ICE and the Border Patrol, but again, according to Hondo the lying Kunt, it's a lie to say Bernie wants to "dismantle" ICE and the Border Patrol.2001400ex said:
It's actually not socialism. Look up what socialism actually is. Look up the economies that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao had.SFGbob said:
Medicare for all is Socialism. It is socialized medicine. Quote the person who called it Communism.2001400ex said:
People call Medicare for all socialism and communism here on a daily basis. You are doing it in sheet thread right now. And you don't even see it. Sad!MikeDamone said:
Which no one did. Idiot.2001400ex said:
Calling a representative republic a democracy is closer than calling Medicare for all a communism. HTHMikeDamone said:Or pandering for votes? Since we don’t have a Democracy and no one person or group of people would be the “backbone” of it if we did, I’m going with pandering for votes. Maybe even using them as props.
And sledog says hello.
Hondo has his own words and meanings for words.
And do you really mean to parse the control over means of production when the purse strings ultimately dictate such and in this case there will be only one purse?
Before yellow says something polite and diplomatic, let me interject to note that you do not understand at all the point he was making. -
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Yet you keep it.RaceBannon said:I don't love Medicare
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I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform -
If you change your mind and like it can you keep it?RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform -
The HondoBros say it's socialism if you use a program or get retirement from something you paid into your whole career.RaceBannon said:
I don't have itMikeDamone said:
Yet
And I've paid in for 40 years
I'd still scrap it for REAL insurance reform
They're shmart!
