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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    GDS said:

    Now we're believing drug manufacturers

    Because China pays Scott well

    uhhhh you have a reading comprehension problem? It's not the drug manufacturer that's making the claim...
    Yeah, not the manufacturer, just the sales people. That makes it way better.


    It’s also the manufactures though. Glaxo is a manufacturer. But thanks for the info.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    GDS said:

    Zantac's risk appears to be the unstable nature of the drug itself, said Valisure CEO David Light.

    “This isn’t some new, bad manufacturing process overseas like what happened with valsartan and losartan,” Light said. “It is our view that this problem with ranitidine has been there since the 1980s.

    "It's a much more serious issue."

    Valisure tested Zantac in stomach-like fluids with and without added nitrites, chemicals commonly found in foods and the body. When those chemicals were added, Valisure found NDMA levels for one tablet of Zantac reached more than 3,100 times the FDA's daily threshold.

    Light said testing the drug with added nitrites created "stomach relevant" conditions.

    "Ingesting nitrite-containing foods like hot dogs can significantly increase stomach levels of nitrite," Light said. "These foods are often eaten by individuals either before or after taking antacid products."

    Studies pointing to risk date to 1980s

    Light said studies conducted in the 1980s raised concern about potential safety risks. In a citizen petition to the FDA, Valisure said Zantac's originator, Glaxo Research Group, conducted its own study in 1987 "after numerous studies raised concerns" about ranitidine.

    The Glaxo study examined stomach contents of people who took the drug. It found people had no significant increase in nitrosamines such as NDMA within 24 hours of taking ranitidine.

    Light said the study's testing methods were less accurate and researchers discarded stomach samples that contained ranitidine. Without those samples, researchers would not find NDMA or nitrosamines that form as a result of taking the drug, Light said.

    Wait, so we aren’t believing CNN and the FDA, but are siding with Big Pharma? I’m confused about this. Or is it really just about defending communists? “Educated”, not indoctrinated.
    It sounds like Big Pharma fucked this one up from the jump as this has been a problem with the drug since it came out in the 80's.

    Studies pointing to risk date to 1980s

    Light said studies conducted in the 1980s raised concern about potential safety risks. In a citizen petition to the FDA, Valisure said Zantac's originator, Glaxo Research Group, conducted its own study in 1987 "after numerous studies raised concerns" about ranitidine.

    The Glaxo study examined stomach contents of people who took the drug. It found people had no significant increase in nitrosamines such as NDMA within 24 hours of taking ranitidine.

    Light said the study's testing methods were less accurate and researchers discarded stomach samples that contained ranitidine. Without those samples, researchers would not find NDMA or nitrosamines that form as a result of taking the drug, Light said.

    Light said the Stanford study and his lab's own analysis shows the potential health risk for people who took the drug.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 18,046 Standard Supporter
    The carcinogen is in the pill. How hard is that. It's in the blood pressure medicines. You leftards love to shill for the chicoms. Pointing out how phu*cked up the FDA is would be a separate conversation. They should be in charge of the internet
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    The carcinogen is in the pill. How hard is that. It's in the blood pressure medicines. You leftards love to shill for the chicoms. Pointing out how phu*cked up the FDA is would be a separate conversation. They should be in charge of the internet

    So you disagree with the numerous studies that show due to the molecular structure of the drug when mixed with nitrates commonly found in food it leads to the carcinogen because....feelings. Got it.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 18,046 Standard Supporter
    So you love phu*cking strawman ass? Got it. The carcinogen was in the pill. Why you support chicom contaminated pharmaceutical chemicals would remain a mystery if you weren't rooting for the away team.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,382

    Great flick. Recommended
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    So you love phu*cking strawman ass? Got it. The carcinogen was in the pill. Why you support chicom contaminated pharmaceutical chemicals would remain a mystery if you weren't rooting for the away team.

    Have the chicoms been contaminating the pills since the 80’s?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    So you love phu*cking strawman ass? Got it. The carcinogen was in the pill. Why you support chicom contaminated pharmaceutical chemicals would remain a mystery if you weren't rooting for the away team.

    You can say fucking here. No need to censor it. Let alone censor it two different ways.