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MikeDamone
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Good article, I'd quibble with about 10 or 15% of it.MikeDamone said:It is outside of his attention span.
https://www.cato.org/blog/why-1619-matters-2019 -
Hi Kobe.
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I read it.
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George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
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Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
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I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
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We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
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Such work requires an honest look at history that treats the Founding Fathers and America's founding documents as men and historical writings, not prophets and religious texts.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
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Most great men throughout history have been flawed in one way or another.2001400ex said:
Such work requires an honest look at history that treats the Founding Fathers and America's founding documents as men and historical writings, not prophets and religious texts.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
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Of course. People often forget the founders were human.YellowSnow said:
Most great men throughout history have been flawed in one way or another.2001400ex said:
Such work requires an honest look at history that treats the Founding Fathers and America's founding documents as men and historical writings, not prophets and religious texts.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
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Who forgets that Hondo? Name, names.2001400ex said:
Of course. People often forget the founders were human.YellowSnow said:
Most great men throughout history have been flawed in one way or another.2001400ex said:
Such work requires an honest look at history that treats the Founding Fathers and America's founding documents as men and historical writings, not prophets and religious texts.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
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Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
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You never want to lose sight of where we came from and you never want to stop looking at where we are going
The Alt Left crowd seems petrified of the actual progress that has been made over the last 60 years because the last thing the Alt Left wants is to have to answer for the failures of their policies and the absolute danger to what this country is if we follow them any further down the road to ruin
So just call everyone a racist and try to steal the next election -
I love the message the left now has for the youth of America. Your country's history sucks and your future is going to suck unless you vote for me.RaceBannon said:You never want to lose sight of where we came from and you never want to stop looking at where we are going
The Alt Left crowd seems petrified of the actual progress that has been made over the last 60 years because the last thing the Alt Left wants is to have to answer for the failures of their policies and the absolute danger to what this country is if we follow them any further down the road to ruin
So just call everyone a racist and try to steal the next election -
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.MikeDamone said:
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
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Yeah. But how was he a great presidentYellowSnow said:
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.MikeDamone said:
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
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Homestead ActMikeDamone said:
Yeah. But how was he a great presidentYellowSnow said:
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.MikeDamone said:
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Transcontinental Railroad Act
Emancipation Proclamation
Britain & France didn't recognize CSA
Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies
13th Amendment
Defeated the South & saved the Union
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Advocated ethnic cleansingYellowSnow said:
Homestead ActMikeDamone said:
Yeah. But how was he a great presidentYellowSnow said:
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.MikeDamone said:
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Transcontinental Railroad Act
Emancipation Proclamation
Britain & France didn't recognize CSA
Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies
13th Amendment
Defeated the South & saved the Union
Deported his critics
Government censorship
Suspended habeas corpus
Appointed Ambrose Burnside
Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence
Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
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No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.MikeDamone said:
Advocated ethnic cleansingYellowSnow said:
Homestead ActMikeDamone said:
Yeah. But how was he a great presidentYellowSnow said:
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.MikeDamone said:
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Transcontinental Railroad Act
Emancipation Proclamation
Britain & France didn't recognize CSA
Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies
13th Amendment
Defeated the South & saved the Union
Deported his critics
Government censorship
Suspended habeas corpus
Appointed Ambrose Burnside
Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence
Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later. -
Ok!YellowSnow said:
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.MikeDamone said:
Advocated ethnic cleansingYellowSnow said:
Homestead ActMikeDamone said:
Yeah. But how was he a great presidentYellowSnow said:
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.MikeDamone said:
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Transcontinental Railroad Act
Emancipation Proclamation
Britain & France didn't recognize CSA
Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies
13th Amendment
Defeated the South & saved the Union
Deported his critics
Government censorship
Suspended habeas corpus
Appointed Ambrose Burnside
Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence
Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won! -
What is "ethnic cleaning"?MikeDamone said:
Ok!YellowSnow said:
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.MikeDamone said:
Advocated ethnic cleansingYellowSnow said:
Homestead ActMikeDamone said:
Yeah. But how was he a great presidentYellowSnow said:
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.MikeDamone said:
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Transcontinental Railroad Act
Emancipation Proclamation
Britain & France didn't recognize CSA
Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies
13th Amendment
Defeated the South & saved the Union
Deported his critics
Government censorship
Suspended habeas corpus
Appointed Ambrose Burnside
Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence
Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won! -
It’s what you do after ethic cleansing. It leaves a messYellowSnow said:
What is "ethnic cleaning"?MikeDamone said:
Ok!YellowSnow said:
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.MikeDamone said:
Advocated ethnic cleansingYellowSnow said:
Homestead ActMikeDamone said:
Yeah. But how was he a great presidentYellowSnow said:
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.MikeDamone said:
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Transcontinental Railroad Act
Emancipation Proclamation
Britain & France didn't recognize CSA
Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies
13th Amendment
Defeated the South & saved the Union
Deported his critics
Government censorship
Suspended habeas corpus
Appointed Ambrose Burnside
Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence
Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won! -
No historian that I'm aware of considers the Civil War ethnic cleansing.MikeDamone said:
It’s what you do after ethic cleansing. It leaves a messYellowSnow said:
What is "ethnic cleaning"?MikeDamone said:
Ok!YellowSnow said:
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.MikeDamone said:
Advocated ethnic cleansingYellowSnow said:
Homestead ActMikeDamone said:
Yeah. But how was he a great presidentYellowSnow said:
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.MikeDamone said:
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Transcontinental Railroad Act
Emancipation Proclamation
Britain & France didn't recognize CSA
Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies
13th Amendment
Defeated the South & saved the Union
Deported his critics
Government censorship
Suspended habeas corpus
Appointed Ambrose Burnside
Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence
Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won!
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial and/or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1][page needed] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as genocide and genocidal rape.
Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing -
I’m not taking about the civil warYellowSnow said:
No historian that I'm aware of considers the Civil War ethnic cleansing.MikeDamone said:
It’s what you do after ethic cleansing. It leaves a messYellowSnow said:
What is "ethnic cleaning"?MikeDamone said:
Ok!YellowSnow said:
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.MikeDamone said:
Advocated ethnic cleansingYellowSnow said:
Homestead ActMikeDamone said:
Yeah. But how was he a great presidentYellowSnow said:
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.MikeDamone said:
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Transcontinental Railroad Act
Emancipation Proclamation
Britain & France didn't recognize CSA
Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies
13th Amendment
Defeated the South & saved the Union
Deported his critics
Government censorship
Suspended habeas corpus
Appointed Ambrose Burnside
Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence
Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won!
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial and/or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1][page needed] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as genocide and genocidal rape.
Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing -
Disclaimer, this from a liberal rag, but still...MikeDamone said:
I’m not taking about the civil warYellowSnow said:
No historian that I'm aware of considers the Civil War ethnic cleansing.MikeDamone said:
It’s what you do after ethic cleansing. It leaves a messYellowSnow said:
What is "ethnic cleaning"?MikeDamone said:
Ok!YellowSnow said:
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.MikeDamone said:
Advocated ethnic cleansingYellowSnow said:
Homestead ActMikeDamone said:
Yeah. But how was he a great presidentYellowSnow said:
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.MikeDamone said:
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Transcontinental Railroad Act
Emancipation Proclamation
Britain & France didn't recognize CSA
Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies
13th Amendment
Defeated the South & saved the Union
Deported his critics
Government censorship
Suspended habeas corpus
Appointed Ambrose Burnside
Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence
Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won!
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial and/or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1][page needed] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as genocide and genocidal rape.
Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing
Lincoln, however, was “never an Indian hater,” Eric Foner writes in his Pulitzer Prize–winning book The Fiery Trial: Abraham Lincoln and American Slavery. He did not agree with General John Pope, sent to put down a Sioux uprising in southern Minnesota, who said “It is my purpose utterly to exterminate the Sioux if I have the power to do so.” Lincoln “carefully reviewed the trial records,” Foner reports, and found a lack of evidence at most of the tribunals. He commuted the sentences of 265 of the Indians—a politically unpopular move. But, he said, “I could not afford to hang men for votes.”
https://www.thenation.com/article/largest-mass-execution-us-history-150-years-ago-today/ -
I wasn’t talking about the Indians either.YellowSnow said:
Disclaimer, this from a liberal rag, but still...MikeDamone said:
I’m not taking about the civil warYellowSnow said:
No historian that I'm aware of considers the Civil War ethnic cleansing.MikeDamone said:
It’s what you do after ethic cleansing. It leaves a messYellowSnow said:
What is "ethnic cleaning"?MikeDamone said:
Ok!YellowSnow said:
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.MikeDamone said:
Advocated ethnic cleansingYellowSnow said:
Homestead ActMikeDamone said:
Yeah. But how was he a great presidentYellowSnow said:
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.MikeDamone said:
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Transcontinental Railroad Act
Emancipation Proclamation
Britain & France didn't recognize CSA
Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies
13th Amendment
Defeated the South & saved the Union
Deported his critics
Government censorship
Suspended habeas corpus
Appointed Ambrose Burnside
Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence
Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won!
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial and/or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1][page needed] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as genocide and genocidal rape.
Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing
Lincoln, however, was “never an Indian hater,” Eric Foner writes in his Pulitzer Prize–winning book The Fiery Trial: Abraham Lincoln and American Slavery. He did not agree with General John Pope, sent to put down a Sioux uprising in southern Minnesota, who said “It is my purpose utterly to exterminate the Sioux if I have the power to do so.” Lincoln “carefully reviewed the trial records,” Foner reports, and found a lack of evidence at most of the tribunals. He commuted the sentences of 265 of the Indians—a politically unpopular move. But, he said, “I could not afford to hang men for votes.”
https://www.thenation.com/article/largest-mass-execution-us-history-150-years-ago-today/
In my view you prescribe the the sanitized view of Lincoln we all got in school. That’s fine. But if you chose to, much research and commentary/analysis is available. And not from fringe publications either.
Here is some info I read a view years ago. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2006/11/a-nuanced-view-of-great-emancipator/
“Every generation invents a new Lincoln,” said Fredrickson – a fact that makes the historiography of Lincoln’s views on race a tangled tale.“
Maybe we have a different view on the matter. Many people do. I’m not sure why that upsets you so much. -
MikeDamone said:
Advocated ethnic cleansingYellowSnow said:
Homestead ActMikeDamone said:
Yeah. But how was he a great presidentYellowSnow said:
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.MikeDamone said:
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Transcontinental Railroad Act
Emancipation Proclamation
Britain & France didn't recognize CSA
Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies
13th Amendment
Defeated the South & saved the Union
Deported his critics
Government censorship
Suspended habeas corpus
Appointed Ambrose Burnside
Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence
Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NOjkmkanrc
Good beat, easy to dance to. A peach.
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Who's upset? I enjoy historical debates.MikeDamone said:
I wasn’t talking about the Indians either.YellowSnow said:
Disclaimer, this from a liberal rag, but still...MikeDamone said:
I’m not taking about the civil warYellowSnow said:
No historian that I'm aware of considers the Civil War ethnic cleansing.MikeDamone said:
It’s what you do after ethic cleansing. It leaves a messYellowSnow said:
What is "ethnic cleaning"?MikeDamone said:
Ok!YellowSnow said:
No one cares about this chicken shit stuff. We won the war and the Union was saved. That's all that matters.MikeDamone said:
Advocated ethnic cleansingYellowSnow said:
Homestead ActMikeDamone said:
Yeah. But how was he a great presidentYellowSnow said:
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.MikeDamone said:
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Transcontinental Railroad Act
Emancipation Proclamation
Britain & France didn't recognize CSA
Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies
13th Amendment
Defeated the South & saved the Union
Deported his critics
Government censorship
Suspended habeas corpus
Appointed Ambrose Burnside
Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence
Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.
The federal government decreased in size and scope dramatically after the war. Income tax didn't arrive until 50 years later.
Glad to know no one cares about ethnic cleaning because we won!
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial and/or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1][page needed] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as genocide and genocidal rape.
Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing
Lincoln, however, was “never an Indian hater,” Eric Foner writes in his Pulitzer Prize–winning book The Fiery Trial: Abraham Lincoln and American Slavery. He did not agree with General John Pope, sent to put down a Sioux uprising in southern Minnesota, who said “It is my purpose utterly to exterminate the Sioux if I have the power to do so.” Lincoln “carefully reviewed the trial records,” Foner reports, and found a lack of evidence at most of the tribunals. He commuted the sentences of 265 of the Indians—a politically unpopular move. But, he said, “I could not afford to hang men for votes.”
https://www.thenation.com/article/largest-mass-execution-us-history-150-years-ago-today/
In my view you prescribe the the sanitized view of Lincoln we all got in school. That’s fine. But if you chose to, much research and commentary/analysis is available. And not from fringe publications either.
Here is some info I read a view years ago. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2006/11/a-nuanced-view-of-great-emancipator/
Maybe we have a different view on the matter. I’m not sure why that upsets you so much.
Sure, there's the sanitized view of Lincoln that merits some criticism. But it all seems pretty nit picky to me. He doesn't have to be a Saint- i.e., "Father Abraham" - to have affected the end of slavery in this country. -
On Hamilton, he was a piece of shit and no one except smart people knew or cared about. The proposal was to put Tubman on the $10 bill. Then this thing came out and Hamilton became a darling of the left (because dumb people get their history through musicals). Next thing you know, Tubman moves to the $20.PurpleThrobber said:MikeDamone said:
Advocated ethnic cleansingYellowSnow said:
Homestead ActMikeDamone said:
Yeah. But how was he a great presidentYellowSnow said:
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.MikeDamone said:
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Transcontinental Railroad Act
Emancipation Proclamation
Britain & France didn't recognize CSA
Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies
13th Amendment
Defeated the South & saved the Union
Deported his critics
Government censorship
Suspended habeas corpus
Appointed Ambrose Burnside
Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence
Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NOjkmkanrc
Good beat, easy to dance to. A peach. -
Noone was in the room when it happened.MikeDamone said:
On Hamilton, he was a piece of shit and no one except smart people knew or cared about. The proposal was to put Tubman on the $10 bill. Then this thing came out and Hamilton became a darling of the left (because dumb people get their history through musicals). Next thing you know, Tubman moves to the $20.PurpleThrobber said:MikeDamone said:
Advocated ethnic cleansingYellowSnow said:
Homestead ActMikeDamone said:
Yeah. But how was he a great presidentYellowSnow said:
He was the greatest American that ever lived and it's not even close.MikeDamone said:
Except for Lincoln. He was a real piece of shit.Southerndawg said:
We all should.YellowSnow said:
I greatly admire all three men.MikeDamone said:
Lincoln took a page from those assholes book. That’s for sureYellowSnow said:George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were pieces of shit.
Transcontinental Railroad Act
Emancipation Proclamation
Britain & France didn't recognize CSA
Appointed Grant to command ALL Union Armies
13th Amendment
Defeated the South & saved the Union
Deported his critics
Government censorship
Suspended habeas corpus
Appointed Ambrose Burnside
Solidified a foundation of federal tyranny and centralized governmental omnipotence
Emancipation Proclamation was for show, had zero authority in the south and did nothing
By your measure King George was a swell guy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NOjkmkanrc
Good beat, easy to dance to. A peach.
