Friedman was also a huge supporter of property rights and the rule of law. You are comparing apples to dog sh*t.
Friedman was also a huge supporter of property rights and the rule of law. You are comparing apples to dog sh*t. Jfc. Trumptard potd. You have no fucking clue what the original post means or says.
Friedman's comments were aimed at protectionistic tariffs. Like the Canadian, European and chicom tariffs that Trump is fighting. Hope that helps. Or find a quote were Milton supported IP theft. Milton was a brilliant man. But he was an academic. He supported the earned income credit. In practice it's just a device to steal money from the US treasury.
Westlin desperately wants those jobs riveting the top of ball caps back in AMERICA! Where they belong.
“For example, the supporters of tariffs treat it as self-evident that the creation of jobs is a desirable end, in and of itself, regardless of what the persons employed do. That is clearly wrong. If all we want are jobs, we can create any number--for example, have people dig holes and then fill them up again, or perform other useless tasks. Work is sometimes its own reward. Mostly, however, it is the price we pay to get the things we want. Our real objective is not just jobs but productive jobs--jobs that will mean more goods and services to consume.”― Milton Friedman, Free to Choose: A Personal Statement
“For example, the supporters of tariffs treat it as self-evident that the creation of jobs is a desirable end, in and of itself, regardless of what the persons employed do. That is clearly wrong. If all we want are jobs, we can create any number--for example, have people dig holes and then fill them up again, or perform other useless tasks. Work is sometimes its own reward. Mostly, however, it is the price we pay to get the things we want. Our real objective is not just jobs but productive jobs--jobs that will mean more goods and services to consume.”― Milton Friedman, Free to Choose: A Personal Statement https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-10-29/steel-industry-faces-a-bleaker-future-than-when-trump-moved-to-rescue-it
Trump’s “protecting” obsolete jobs and Milton Friedman advocated for stealing from the US treasury. I’m hearing this is coming from hardworking poor people trying to catch a break.
Trump’s “protecting” obsolete jobs and Milton Friedman advocated for stealing from the US treasury. I’m hearing this is coming from hardworking poor people trying to catch a break. Friedman suggested a negative income tax that would replace all other welfare type programs. It’s an idea worth considering. “Stealing” from the treasury. lol. Spoken like a true statist who thinks the money in the treasury belongs to the government.
Trump’s “protecting” obsolete jobs and Milton Friedman advocated for stealing from the US treasury. I’m hearing this is coming from hardworking poor people trying to catch a break. Friedman suggested a negative income tax that would replace all other welfare type programs. It’s an idea worth considering. “Stealing” from the treasury. lol. Spoken like a true statist who thinks the money in the treasury belongs to the government. Holy fuck. I was mocking Lenny from west Linn. Are you drunk off your ass again? Yes, I agree with friedman’s wisdom on tariffs and negative income tax. Calm the fuck down turbo.
Trump’s “protecting” obsolete jobs and Milton Friedman advocated for stealing from the US treasury. I’m hearing this is coming from hardworking poor people trying to catch a break. Friedman suggested a negative income tax that would replace all other welfare type programs. It’s an idea worth considering. “Stealing” from the treasury. lol. Spoken like a true statist who thinks the money in the treasury belongs to the government. Holy fuck. I was mocking Lenny from west Linn. Are you drunk off your ass again? Yes, I agree with friedman’s wisdom on tariffs and negative income tax. Calm the fuck down turbo. No. I’m not. Might want to quote Lenny when you “mock” him. Dipshit.
Trump’s “protecting” obsolete jobs and Milton Friedman advocated for stealing from the US treasury. I’m hearing this is coming from hardworking poor people trying to catch a break. Friedman suggested a negative income tax that would replace all other welfare type programs. It’s an idea worth considering. “Stealing” from the treasury. lol. Spoken like a true statist who thinks the money in the treasury belongs to the government. Holy fuck. I was mocking Lenny from west Linn. Are you drunk off your ass again? Yes, I agree with friedman’s wisdom on tariffs and negative income tax. Calm the fuck down turbo. No. I’m not. Might want to quote Lenny when you “mock” him. Dipshit. For a sober person, you are having a very difficult time reading your own thread.
Trump’s “protecting” obsolete jobs and Milton Friedman advocated for stealing from the US treasury. I’m hearing this is coming from hardworking poor people trying to catch a break. Friedman suggested a negative income tax that would replace all other welfare type programs. It’s an idea worth considering. “Stealing” from the treasury. lol. Spoken like a true statist who thinks the money in the treasury belongs to the government. Holy fuck. I was mocking Lenny from west Linn. Are you drunk off your ass again? Yes, I agree with friedman’s wisdom on tariffs and negative income tax. Calm the fuck down turbo. No. I’m not. Might want to quote Lenny when you “mock” him. Dipshit. For a sober person, you are having a very difficult time reading your own thread. Even for a dumbfuck I’d think you’d know how to use the quote feature
Trump Trump’s “protecting” obsolete jobs and Milton Friedman advocated for stealing from the US treasury. I’m hearing this is coming from hardworking poor people trying to catch a break. Friedman suggested a negative income tax that would replace all other welfare type programs. It’s an idea worth considering. “Stealing” from the treasury. lol. Spoken like a true statist who thinks the money in the treasury belongs to the government. Holy fuck. I was mocking Lenny from west Linn. Are you drunk off your ass again? Yes, I agree with friedman’s wisdom on tariffs and negative income tax. Calm the fuck down turbo. No. I’m not. Might want to quote Lenny when you “mock” him. Dipshit. For a sober person, you are having a very difficult time reading your own thread. Even for a dumbfuck I’d think you’d know how to use the quote feature So you didn’t read the thread and have no clue what you’re talking about. And you’re sober. Explains everything.
“For example, the supporters of tariffs treat it as self-evident that the creation of jobs is a desirable end, in and of itself, regardless of what the persons employed do. That is clearly wrong. If all we want are jobs, we can create any number--for example, have people dig holes and then fill them up again, or perform other useless tasks. Work is sometimes its own reward. Mostly, however, it is the price we pay to get the things we want. Our real objective is not just jobs but productive jobs--jobs that will mean more goods and services to consume.”― Milton Friedman, Free to Choose: A Personal Statement https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-10-29/steel-industry-faces-a-bleaker-future-than-when-trump-moved-to-rescue-it Yes, and?
“For example, the supporters of tariffs treat it as self-evident that the creation of jobs is a desirable end, in and of itself, regardless of what the persons employed do. That is clearly wrong. If all we want are jobs, we can create any number--for example, have people dig holes and then fill them up again, or perform other useless tasks. Work is sometimes its own reward. Mostly, however, it is the price we pay to get the things we want. Our real objective is not just jobs but productive jobs--jobs that will mean more goods and services to consume.”― Milton Friedman, Free to Choose: A Personal Statement https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-10-29/steel-industry-faces-a-bleaker-future-than-when-trump-moved-to-rescue-it Yes, and? Interesting info about tariffs and their unintended consequences.
Last I looked Chinese GDP numbers are the worst in decades and those are the "official" Beijing ones.(Though I think the trade war is only 1 contributor to a Chinese slowdown). Their consumer numbers are posting low sales and their imports of raw materials are down. They can continue to put off an actual downturn but it's going to continue to cost them long term growth.Meanwhile, US imports have remained steady as new suppliers have expanded their market shares(Vietnam, Indonesia, India) and long term supply chains are designing China out.Seems like a small economic drag to harm one of our major global competitors/enemies who happens to be one of the worst and most vile regimes in human history.Wrong headed as part of the policy motivations may be I am for sanctions against the country currently violating human rights on historic scales and attempting to undermine democracy on a global level. Even more so since it will cost us very little to do so and will benefit our regional allies. Knock on effect for decoupling from the largest property bubble in human history and a hugely corrupt financial sector.I am for free trade. Just not with fascists.
Last I looked Chinese GDP numbers are the worst in decades and those are the "official" Beijing ones.(Though I think the trade war is only 1 contributor to a Chinese slowdown). Their consumer numbers are posting low sales and their imports of raw materials are down. They can continue to put off an actual downturn but it's going to continue to cost them long term growth.Meanwhile, US imports have remained steady as new suppliers have expanded their market shares(Vietnam, Indonesia, India) and long term supply chains are designing China out.Seems like a small economic drag to harm one of our major global competitors/enemies who happens to be one of the worst and most vile regimes in human history.Wrong headed as part of the policy motivations may be I am for sanctions against the country currently violating human rights on historic scales and attempting to undermine democracy on a global level. Even more so since it will cost us very little to do so and will benefit our regional allies. Knock on effect for decoupling from the largest property bubble in human history and a hugely corrupt financial sector.I am for free trade. Just not with fascists. China having a weak economy doesn’t mean we are “winning”. Just the opposite actually. Hth
Last I looked Chinese GDP numbers are the worst in decades and those are the "official" Beijing ones.(Though I think the trade war is only 1 contributor to a Chinese slowdown). Their consumer numbers are posting low sales and their imports of raw materials are down. They can continue to put off an actual downturn but it's going to continue to cost them long term growth.Meanwhile, US imports have remained steady as new suppliers have expanded their market shares(Vietnam, Indonesia, India) and long term supply chains are designing China out.Seems like a small economic drag to harm one of our major global competitors/enemies who happens to be one of the worst and most vile regimes in human history.Wrong headed as part of the policy motivations may be I am for sanctions against the country currently violating human rights on historic scales and attempting to undermine democracy on a global level. Even more so since it will cost us very little to do so and will benefit our regional allies. Knock on effect for decoupling from the largest property bubble in human history and a hugely corrupt financial sector.I am for free trade. Just not with fascists. China having a weak economy doesn’t mean we are “winning”. Just the opposite actually. Hth I'd like to see our economy decoupled from China's, tariffs are part of that. Them having a slow down is good realpolitik even if it's "bad" for our own economy.Our own economy is quite capable of "winning" without China.C'mon Damone. You know where I stand and why. Neo-liberalization failed to crack the CCP. It just turned them from poor Communists into middle income Fascists.
Last I looked Chinese GDP numbers are the worst in decades and those are the "official" Beijing ones.(Though I think the trade war is only 1 contributor to a Chinese slowdown). Their consumer numbers are posting low sales and their imports of raw materials are down. They can continue to put off an actual downturn but it's going to continue to cost them long term growth.Meanwhile, US imports have remained steady as new suppliers have expanded their market shares(Vietnam, Indonesia, India) and long term supply chains are designing China out.Seems like a small economic drag to harm one of our major global competitors/enemies who happens to be one of the worst and most vile regimes in human history.Wrong headed as part of the policy motivations may be I am for sanctions against the country currently violating human rights on historic scales and attempting to undermine democracy on a global level. Even more so since it will cost us very little to do so and will benefit our regional allies. Knock on effect for decoupling from the largest property bubble in human history and a hugely corrupt financial sector.I am for free trade. Just not with fascists. China having a weak economy doesn’t mean we are “winning”. Just the opposite actually. Hth I'd like to see our economy decoupled from China's, tariffs are part of that. Them having a slow down is good realpolitik even if it's "bad" for our own economy.Our own economy is quite capable of "winning" without China.C'mon Damone. You know where I stand and why. Neo-liberalization failed to crack the CCP. It just turned them from poor Communists into middle income Fascists. A "slowdown" yet still much higher growth than our economy.
Last I looked Chinese GDP numbers are the worst in decades and those are the "official" Beijing ones.(Though I think the trade war is only 1 contributor to a Chinese slowdown). Their consumer numbers are posting low sales and their imports of raw materials are down. They can continue to put off an actual downturn but it's going to continue to cost them long term growth.Meanwhile, US imports have remained steady as new suppliers have expanded their market shares(Vietnam, Indonesia, India) and long term supply chains are designing China out.Seems like a small economic drag to harm one of our major global competitors/enemies who happens to be one of the worst and most vile regimes in human history.Wrong headed as part of the policy motivations may be I am for sanctions against the country currently violating human rights on historic scales and attempting to undermine democracy on a global level. Even more so since it will cost us very little to do so and will benefit our regional allies. Knock on effect for decoupling from the largest property bubble in human history and a hugely corrupt financial sector.I am for free trade. Just not with fascists. China having a weak economy doesn’t mean we are “winning”. Just the opposite actually. Hth Disagree on this front. This isn’t a trade war...this is a belief war masked as trade war (or I hope it is). The targeting of Huawei has nothing to do with trade balance and everything to do with not allowing the Chinese govt to control tech going forward, and forcing Companies away from China being a single supplier of most everything.No clue if Trump has the balls to stick with it, but Lord knows no one else has even tried up to this point.
