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Wisdom on tariffs.

MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
edited November 2019 in Tug Tavern
“For example, the supporters of tariffs treat it as self-evident that the creation of jobs is a desirable end, in and of itself, regardless of what the persons employed do. That is clearly wrong. If all we want are jobs, we can create any number--for example, have people dig holes and then fill them up again, or perform other useless tasks. Work is sometimes its own reward. Mostly, however, it is the price we pay to get the things we want. Our real objective is not just jobs but productive jobs--jobs that will mean more goods and services to consume.”
― Milton Friedman, Free to Choose: A Personal Statement
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  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,715 Standard Supporter
    Friedman was also a huge supporter of property rights and the rule of law. You are comparing apples to dog sh*t.
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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    WestlinnDuck said:

    Friedman was also a huge supporter of property rights and the rule of law. You are comparing apples to dog sh*t.

    Huh? I posted a Friedman quote on tariffs. What am I comparing exactly?
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  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    WestlinnDuck said:

    Friedman was also a huge supporter of property rights and the rule of law. You are comparing apples to dog sh*t.

    Jfc. Trumptard potd. You have no fucking clue what the original post means or says.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,070
    CirrhosisDawg said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    Friedman was also a huge supporter of property rights and the rule of law. You are comparing apples to dog sh*t.

    Jfc. Trumptard potd. You have no fucking clue what the original post means or says.
    Go fuck yourself El Monte.
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  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,715 Standard Supporter
    Friedman's comments were aimed at protectionistic tariffs. Like the Canadian, European and chicom tariffs that Trump is fighting. Hope that helps. Or find a quote were Milton supported IP theft. Milton was a brilliant man. But he was an academic. He supported the earned income credit. In practice it's just a device to steal money from the US treasury.
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  • HustlinOwlHustlinOwl Member Posts: 953
    Westlin desperately wants those jobs riveting the top of ball caps back in AMERICA! Where they belong.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,070
    HustlinOwl said:

    Westlin desperately wants those jobs riveting the top of ball caps back in AMERICA! Where they belong.

    Yeah, because that’s the type of IP the Chinese are stealing
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,070
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/trump-to-hit-china-with-tariffs-over-intellectual-property-theft-trade-war-2018-3
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  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Trump’s “protecting” obsolete jobs and Milton Friedman advocated for stealing from the US treasury.

    I’m hearing this is coming from hardworking poor people trying to catch a break.
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  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    MikeDamone said:

    “For example, the supporters of tariffs treat it as self-evident that the creation of jobs is a desirable end, in and of itself, regardless of what the persons employed do. That is clearly wrong. If all we want are jobs, we can create any number--for example, have people dig holes and then fill them up again, or perform other useless tasks. Work is sometimes its own reward. Mostly, however, it is the price we pay to get the things we want. Our real objective is not just jobs but productive jobs--jobs that will mean more goods and services to consume.”
    ― Milton Friedman, Free to Choose: A Personal Statement

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-10-29/steel-industry-faces-a-bleaker-future-than-when-trump-moved-to-rescue-it
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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    BennyBeaver said:

    MikeDamone said:

    “For example, the supporters of tariffs treat it as self-evident that the creation of jobs is a desirable end, in and of itself, regardless of what the persons employed do. That is clearly wrong. If all we want are jobs, we can create any number--for example, have people dig holes and then fill them up again, or perform other useless tasks. Work is sometimes its own reward. Mostly, however, it is the price we pay to get the things we want. Our real objective is not just jobs but productive jobs--jobs that will mean more goods and services to consume.”
    ― Milton Friedman, Free to Choose: A Personal Statement

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-10-29/steel-industry-faces-a-bleaker-future-than-when-trump-moved-to-rescue-it
    Yes, and?
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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited November 2019
    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Trump’s “protecting” obsolete jobs and Milton Friedman advocated for stealing from the US treasury.

    I’m hearing this is coming from hardworking poor people trying to catch a break.

    Friedman suggested a negative income tax that would replace all other welfare type programs. It’s an idea worth considering.

    “Stealing” from the treasury. lol. Spoken like a true statist who thinks the money in the treasury belongs to the government.
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  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Trump’s “protecting” obsolete jobs and Milton Friedman advocated for stealing from the US treasury.

    I’m hearing this is coming from hardworking poor people trying to catch a break.

    Friedman suggested a negative income tax that would replace all other welfare type programs. It’s an idea worth considering.

    “Stealing” from the treasury. lol. Spoken like a true statist who thinks the money in the treasury belongs to the government.
    Holy fuck. I was mocking Lenny from west Linn. Are you drunk off your ass again? Yes, I agree with friedman’s wisdom on tariffs and negative income tax. Calm the fuck down turbo.
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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    CirrhosisDawg said:

    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Trump’s “protecting” obsolete jobs and Milton Friedman advocated for stealing from the US treasury.

    I’m hearing this is coming from hardworking poor people trying to catch a break.

    Friedman suggested a negative income tax that would replace all other welfare type programs. It’s an idea worth considering.

    “Stealing” from the treasury. lol. Spoken like a true statist who thinks the money in the treasury belongs to the government.
    Holy fuck. I was mocking Lenny from west Linn. Are you drunk off your ass again? Yes, I agree with friedman’s wisdom on tariffs and negative income tax. Calm the fuck down turbo.
    No. I’m not. Might want to quote Lenny when you “mock” him. Dipshit.
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  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Trump’s “protecting” obsolete jobs and Milton Friedman advocated for stealing from the US treasury.

    I’m hearing this is coming from hardworking poor people trying to catch a break.

    Friedman suggested a negative income tax that would replace all other welfare type programs. It’s an idea worth considering.

    “Stealing” from the treasury. lol. Spoken like a true statist who thinks the money in the treasury belongs to the government.
    Holy fuck. I was mocking Lenny from west Linn. Are you drunk off your ass again? Yes, I agree with friedman’s wisdom on tariffs and negative income tax. Calm the fuck down turbo.
    No. I’m not. Might want to quote Lenny when you “mock” him. Dipshit.
    For a sober person, you are having a very difficult time reading your own thread.
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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    CirrhosisDawg said:

    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Trump’s “protecting” obsolete jobs and Milton Friedman advocated for stealing from the US treasury.

    I’m hearing this is coming from hardworking poor people trying to catch a break.

    Friedman suggested a negative income tax that would replace all other welfare type programs. It’s an idea worth considering.

    “Stealing” from the treasury. lol. Spoken like a true statist who thinks the money in the treasury belongs to the government.
    Holy fuck. I was mocking Lenny from west Linn. Are you drunk off your ass again? Yes, I agree with friedman’s wisdom on tariffs and negative income tax. Calm the fuck down turbo.
    No. I’m not. Might want to quote Lenny when you “mock” him. Dipshit.
    For a sober person, you are having a very difficult time reading your own thread.
    Even for a dumbfuck I’d think you’d know how to use the quote feature
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  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Trump
    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Trump’s “protecting” obsolete jobs and Milton Friedman advocated for stealing from the US treasury.

    I’m hearing this is coming from hardworking poor people trying to catch a break.

    Friedman suggested a negative income tax that would replace all other welfare type programs. It’s an idea worth considering.

    “Stealing” from the treasury. lol. Spoken like a true statist who thinks the money in the treasury belongs to the government.
    Holy fuck. I was mocking Lenny from west Linn. Are you drunk off your ass again? Yes, I agree with friedman’s wisdom on tariffs and negative income tax. Calm the fuck down turbo.
    No. I’m not. Might want to quote Lenny when you “mock” him. Dipshit.
    For a sober person, you are having a very difficult time reading your own thread.
    Even for a dumbfuck I’d think you’d know how to use the quote feature
    So you didn’t read the thread and have no clue what you’re talking about. And you’re sober. Explains everything.
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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Trump

    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    MikeDamone said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Trump’s “protecting” obsolete jobs and Milton Friedman advocated for stealing from the US treasury.

    I’m hearing this is coming from hardworking poor people trying to catch a break.

    Friedman suggested a negative income tax that would replace all other welfare type programs. It’s an idea worth considering.

    “Stealing” from the treasury. lol. Spoken like a true statist who thinks the money in the treasury belongs to the government.
    Holy fuck. I was mocking Lenny from west Linn. Are you drunk off your ass again? Yes, I agree with friedman’s wisdom on tariffs and negative income tax. Calm the fuck down turbo.
    No. I’m not. Might want to quote Lenny when you “mock” him. Dipshit.
    For a sober person, you are having a very difficult time reading your own thread.
    Even for a dumbfuck I’d think you’d know how to use the quote feature
    So you didn’t read the thread and have no clue what you’re talking about. And you’re sober. Explains everything.
    I read it and saw you “respond” and “Mock” someone without referencing the post. Idiot.
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  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    MikeDamone said:

    BennyBeaver said:

    MikeDamone said:

    “For example, the supporters of tariffs treat it as self-evident that the creation of jobs is a desirable end, in and of itself, regardless of what the persons employed do. That is clearly wrong. If all we want are jobs, we can create any number--for example, have people dig holes and then fill them up again, or perform other useless tasks. Work is sometimes its own reward. Mostly, however, it is the price we pay to get the things we want. Our real objective is not just jobs but productive jobs--jobs that will mean more goods and services to consume.”
    ― Milton Friedman, Free to Choose: A Personal Statement

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-10-29/steel-industry-faces-a-bleaker-future-than-when-trump-moved-to-rescue-it
    Yes, and?
    Interesting info about tariffs and their unintended consequences.
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