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Leach and the “speed” defense

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,504 Founders Club
    lawsandl said:

    Does anyone have the video showing Sewell moving his leg?

    It was right after Myles Bryant swept it
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    I sure as hell didn’t see it.
  • dongman
    dongman Member Posts: 2,384


    2014. Moving the ball downfield and unstoppable all 2nd half. Game ended on this play. It happens every game. Oregon isn’t special in this regard.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,281
    edited October 2019
    haie said:

    Meat is lucky that Leech wasn't thinking about his D when he left a minute on the clock. Otherwise he loses at home because he lost his shit at the refs over a PI call.

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    Meat is lucky that Leech wasn't thinking about his D when he left a minute on the clock. Otherwise he loses at home because he lost his shit at the refs over a PI call.

    Oregon (W)
    WSU (L)

    Now what about the point of the topic?
    That Leech's poor clock management and shitty speed D bailed Meat out. Didn't think it needed further clarification.
    Meat was also unlucky with a few critically bad calls. Shit happens. At the end of the day, losers lose and talk about who was lucky.

    Also,


  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,281
    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    Meat is lucky that Leech wasn't thinking about his D when he left a minute on the clock. Otherwise he loses at home because he lost his shit at the refs over a PI call.

    Oregon (W)
    WSU (L)

    Now what about the point of the topic?
    That Leech's poor clock management and shitty speed D bailed Meat out. Didn't think it needed further clarification.
    The refs almost cost Oregon that game too.
    What because of the false start on Sewell? He caused two cuogs to flinch. The they kept showing the camera angle from his backside where it looks like he didn't move. The first angle they showed he moved.

    Don't remember any other damning calls. Lots of physical play and shit talking down to inferior talent. Meat couldn't keep his mouth shut either.
    The PI call on DL was horrendous. I actually think in the name of all of cfb that a thorough overhaul of the PI call is in order. I'd like to go back to - a long time ago - when you could touch a receiver. On that particular call, it should have been offensive PI. Levy even laughed at Griese, who had a hard on for WSU all night and was actually trying to make a case for the call, by pointing out that the receiver horse collared DL.

    On the Sewell phantom flinch, they kept showing the only angle any of us saw. If you have another angle, use your considerable computer skills and post it for us.

    Blaming the wefs is dumb; agreed. That said, every single poster on this board does it when the calls are of critical importance based on game/time circumstances.

    But if you're going to talk about luck, then you have to talk about ALL the luck, which includes instances of Pac 12 refs not knowing what they're doing. Not just the instances that are selectively convenient to you.

    Maybe if you'd spent some time in Savery Hall with the rest of us while taking a logical reasoning classes you'd be better prepared to have an even-handed discussion.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,231

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    Meat is lucky that Leech wasn't thinking about his D when he left a minute on the clock. Otherwise he loses at home because he lost his shit at the refs over a PI call.

    Oregon (W)
    WSU (L)

    Now what about the point of the topic?
    That Leech's poor clock management and shitty speed D bailed Meat out. Didn't think it needed further clarification.
    The refs almost cost Oregon that game too.
    What because of the false start on Sewell? He caused two cuogs to flinch. The they kept showing the camera angle from his backside where it looks like he didn't move. The first angle they showed he moved.

    Don't remember any other damning calls. Lots of physical play and shit talking down to inferior talent. Meat couldn't keep his mouth shut either.
    The PI call on DL was horrendous. I actually think in the name of all of cfb that a thorough overhaul of the PI call is in order. I'd like to go back to - a long time ago - when you could touch a receiver. On that particular call, it should have been offensive PI. Levy even laughed at Griese, who had a hard on for WSU all night and was actually trying to make a case for the call, by pointing out that the receiver horse collared DL.

    On the Sewell phantom flinch, they kept showing the only angle any of us saw. If you have another angle, use your considerable computer skills and post it for us.

    Blaming the wefs is dumb; agreed. That said, every single poster on this board does it when the calls are of critical importance based on game/time circumstances.

    But if you're going to talk about luck, then you have to talk about ALL the luck, which includes instances of Pac 12 refs not knowing what they're doing. Not just the instances that are selectively convenient to you.

    Maybe if you'd spent some time in Savery Hall with the rest of us while taking a logical reasoning classes you'd be better prepared to have an even-handed discussion.
    To be honest, one of the great things about HH is that after the Oregon-UW game (and missed PI on the final drive) the consensus here from Husky fans was "we were playing at home and had a 14 point second half lead. It shouldn't have even come down to a single call".

    Compare that to Dawgman where there were 15 threads "OMG PI!!!".
  • ramenduck
    ramenduck Member Posts: 734

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    Meat is lucky that Leech wasn't thinking about his D when he left a minute on the clock. Otherwise he loses at home because he lost his shit at the refs over a PI call.

    Oregon (W)
    WSU (L)

    Now what about the point of the topic?
    That Leech's poor clock management and shitty speed D bailed Meat out. Didn't think it needed further clarification.
    The refs almost cost Oregon that game too.
    What because of the false start on Sewell? He caused two cuogs to flinch. The they kept showing the camera angle from his backside where it looks like he didn't move. The first angle they showed he moved.

    Don't remember any other damning calls. Lots of physical play and shit talking down to inferior talent. Meat couldn't keep his mouth shut either.
    The PI call on DL was horrendous. I actually think in the name of all of cfb that a thorough overhaul of the PI call is in order. I'd like to go back to - a long time ago - when you could touch a receiver. On that particular call, it should have been offensive PI. Levy even laughed at Griese, who had a hard on for WSU all night and was actually trying to make a case for the call, by pointing out that the receiver horse collared DL.

    On the Sewell phantom flinch, they kept showing the only angle any of us saw. If you have another angle, use your considerable computer skills and post it for us.

    Blaming the wefs is dumb; agreed. That said, every single poster on this board does it when the calls are of critical importance based on game/time circumstances.

    But if you're going to talk about luck, then you have to talk about ALL the luck, which includes instances of Pac 12 refs not knowing what they're doing. Not just the instances that are selectively convenient to you.

    Maybe if you'd spent some time in Savery Hall with the rest of us while taking a logical reasoning classes you'd be better prepared to have an even-handed discussion.
    PI calls in the past several years have made college football almost unwatchable. It feels like the officials have their hand on the flag every time the ball goes in the air, and look for a reason NOT to call it. Even worse when there's a delayed call because the receiver begs for it just enough.

    On the Sewell flinch, I'm not convinced the refs saw anything. They saw an indignant defensive player throwing a fit to sell it and took a guess.
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    The Oregon UW game was one bad call. Although I though Puka and Mykael got the feet tangled up. The ref also didn’t have the vantage point.

    The Oregon WSU game was horrendous throughout. The zebras took over the game.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,281
    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    Meat is lucky that Leech wasn't thinking about his D when he left a minute on the clock. Otherwise he loses at home because he lost his shit at the refs over a PI call.

    Oregon (W)
    WSU (L)

    Now what about the point of the topic?
    That Leech's poor clock management and shitty speed D bailed Meat out. Didn't think it needed further clarification.
    The refs almost cost Oregon that game too.
    What because of the false start on Sewell? He caused two cuogs to flinch. The they kept showing the camera angle from his backside where it looks like he didn't move. The first angle they showed he moved.

    Don't remember any other damning calls. Lots of physical play and shit talking down to inferior talent. Meat couldn't keep his mouth shut either.
    The PI call on DL was horrendous. I actually think in the name of all of cfb that a thorough overhaul of the PI call is in order. I'd like to go back to - a long time ago - when you could touch a receiver. On that particular call, it should have been offensive PI. Levy even laughed at Griese, who had a hard on for WSU all night and was actually trying to make a case for the call, by pointing out that the receiver horse collared DL.

    On the Sewell phantom flinch, they kept showing the only angle any of us saw. If you have another angle, use your considerable computer skills and post it for us.

    Blaming the wefs is dumb; agreed. That said, every single poster on this board does it when the calls are of critical importance based on game/time circumstances.

    But if you're going to talk about luck, then you have to talk about ALL the luck, which includes instances of Pac 12 refs not knowing what they're doing. Not just the instances that are selectively convenient to you.

    Maybe if you'd spent some time in Savery Hall with the rest of us while taking a logical reasoning classes you'd be better prepared to have an even-handed discussion.
    To be honest, one of the great things about HH is that after the Oregon-UW game (and missed PI on the final drive) the consensus here from Husky fans was "we were playing at home and had a 14 point second half lead. It shouldn't have even come down to a single call".

    Compare that to Dawgman where there were 15 threads "OMG PI!!!".
    That's because Dawgman is the kingdom of complete and utter retards. That's not the baseline.

    They do it here. Everybody but one or two posters will indulge. It's just the way it goes.

    My point was that you can't cherry pick by focusing on one unlucky thing (the opposing coach being retarded) and not the others (the PI call was super bad and very untimely).

    The other thing about Leach and using the clock is this: his is a rythm offense if there ever was one and much of its success is predicated on getting people out into routes quickly. He doesn't want to sit there in formation and give the defense a lot of time to sit there and stare at you and think about where you're going with the ball. Especially on quick slant routes, you want to get to the LOS and snap the ball. So I'm not entirely sure he was being retarded and think it more likely he was just running his offense.

    None of this matters at all btw.

    One thing I'm fairly convinced of: while Oregon's O line clearly run blocks well, they are going to be fucked if Verdell gets an injury that keeps him off the field for any length of time. Dye is a change-up kid and Habbibbi is a limited athlete. Oregon is still short on elite skill position guys. They need to recruit RBs like crazy. I don't know why they don't feed Darian Felix at all. Like, zero carries. He's as fast as Dye and bigger. On a more positive note, it looks like the Penn State kid showed up and Herbert has found him. That's a good development for the Ducks.