Terry Holliman: Do The Huskies Need a Different Kind of OKG?
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No. This has always been mostly sizzle. Get good players. Don’t play Baccallia and Manu. We had more than enough talent to win those games and blaming the players is stupid. We need Pete to be a different kind of coach.
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I agree. Pete needs to change his ways. Too bad he won't. Never has and never will. I wish he would. But odds are he will not. UW will never win a Natty under Petersen.
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There’s truth in having diversity on the roster ... but that diversity isn’t what most talk about
The diversity is in the form of different backgrounds and aspirations, guys that are strong alphas, guys that bring people into the fight.
One of my biggest complaint when I look at the program right now is who on the roster right now is a vocal leader holding people accountable? Who is getting in someone’s face demanding better? Who hates losing more than they like winning?
That’s the kind of diversity that is missing in this program -
We need a Daryl Daniels-type Alpha on this team badly.
Fuckers are so flat -
my fear is we have them but they're not allowed to be.Tequilla said:There’s truth in having diversity on the roster ... but that diversity isn’t what most talk about
The diversity is in the form of different backgrounds and aspirations, guys that are strong alphas, guys that bring people into the fight.
One of my biggest complaint when I look at the program right now is who on the roster right now is a vocal leader holding people accountable? Who is getting in someone’s face demanding better? Who hates losing more than they like winning?
That’s the kind of diversity that is missing in this program -
This. I imagine there is a 'nobody stands above the team' mentality that is beat into them.Meek said:
my fear is we have them but they're not allowed to be.
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The leader stuff is only said because we lose. Nick Harris on offense. Myles Bryant on defense.
We don’t have a Tebow or Tui, but most programs don’t have a “vocal leader” that fans could come up with off the top of their head. -
The defense needs an alpha, the offense needs a new offensive coordinator.
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Pete don’t like that kind of diversity. He prefers the docile lil fuckers that do not have the ballz to challenge pete to be a better coach.Tequilla said:There’s truth in having diversity on the roster ... but that diversity isn’t what most talk about
The diversity is in the form of different backgrounds and aspirations, guys that are strong alphas, guys that bring people into the fight.
One of my biggest complaint when I look at the program right now is who on the roster right now is a vocal leader holding people accountable? Who is getting in someone’s face demanding better? Who hates losing more than they like winning?
That’s the kind of diversity that is missing in this program -
War Daddies are War Daddies. Nobody "let's" them do anything. They fucking do it. Lawyer Malloy would have been Lawyer Malloy playing for Pete. You don't have to be a complete fucking derelict to be a War Daddy. You just need to do on the field.Meek said:
my fear is we have them but they're not allowed to be.Tequilla said:There’s truth in having diversity on the roster ... but that diversity isn’t what most talk about
The diversity is in the form of different backgrounds and aspirations, guys that are strong alphas, guys that bring people into the fight.
One of my biggest complaint when I look at the program right now is who on the roster right now is a vocal leader holding people accountable? Who is getting in someone’s face demanding better? Who hates losing more than they like winning?
That’s the kind of diversity that is missing in this program -
I liked Trey calling Eason out for being a pussy until halftime at Arizona.RoadDawg55 said:The leader stuff is only said because we lose. Nick Harris on offense. Myles Bryant on defense.
We don’t have a Tebow or Tui, but most programs don’t have a “vocal leader” that fans could come up with off the top of their head.
Petersen doesn't seem to kill the passion in kids, he might be guilty of not targeting them in general, but this year I think we can definitively conclude he kills morale with his intractable seniority fetish. -
If Nick Harris and Myles Bryant are your leaders, then you aren’t going to be good enoughRoadDawg55 said:The leader stuff is only said because we lose. Nick Harris on offense. Myles Bryant on defense.
We don’t have a Tebow or Tui, but most programs don’t have a “vocal leader” that fans could come up with off the top of their head. -
Yeah, I think he equates brash and loud guys to not being a fit. I don’t really care tho. Pete has only himself to blame for the losses this year. Coaching decisions played a huge role in two of the losses. We have a lot more talent than Stanford too. Stanford sucks.Emoterman said:
I liked Trey calling Eason out for being a pussy until halftime at Arizona.RoadDawg55 said:The leader stuff is only said because we lose. Nick Harris on offense. Myles Bryant on defense.
We don’t have a Tebow or Tui, but most programs don’t have a “vocal leader” that fans could come up with off the top of their head.
Petersen doesn't seem to kill the passion in kids, he might be guilty of not targeting them in general, but this year I think we can definitively conclude he kills morale with his intractable seniority fetish. -
This team could use a Gee Jr. This team did not recruit Gee Jr.RoadDawg55 said:
Yeah, I think he equates brash and loud guys to not being a fit. I don’t really care tho. Pete has only himself to blame for the losses this year. Coaching decisions played a huge role in two of the losses. We have a lot more talent than Stanford too. Stanford sucks.Emoterman said:
I liked Trey calling Eason out for being a pussy until halftime at Arizona.RoadDawg55 said:The leader stuff is only said because we lose. Nick Harris on offense. Myles Bryant on defense.
We don’t have a Tebow or Tui, but most programs don’t have a “vocal leader” that fans could come up with off the top of their head.
Petersen doesn't seem to kill the passion in kids, he might be guilty of not targeting them in general, but this year I think we can definitively conclude he kills morale with his intractable seniority fetish. -
Uncle Race happened to sneak into the practice, we talking about practice, where Stan Emptermann picked up a bench by one end and slammed it into the ground and cussed out the team and told them to get their heads out of their ass
Any coach will tell you that is so much more effective than a coach doing it -
And also far more effective if your best players are doing thatRaceBannon said:Uncle Race happened to sneak into the practice, we talking about practice, where Stan Emptermann picked up a bench by one end and slammed it into the ground and cussed out the team and told them to get their heads out of their ass
Any coach will tell you that is so much more effective than a coach doing it
That was my point with Harris and Bryant ... good players but athletically limited -
Bryant is the best player on defense. Levi is the only one even close. Maybe Molden too, but Bryant is better.Tequilla said:
And also far more effective if your best players are doing thatRaceBannon said:Uncle Race happened to sneak into the practice, we talking about practice, where Stan Emptermann picked up a bench by one end and slammed it into the ground and cussed out the team and told them to get their heads out of their ass
Any coach will tell you that is so much more effective than a coach doing it
That was my point with Harris and Bryant ... good players but athletically limited -
Every loss this year is on Petersen. And every loss the year before. And before that. Sark was so shitty the team was fucked before the season started. The worst thing about Pete is that we do everything right except what actually matters. It’s like finally getting in bed with a hot chick and then putting your boner into the wall.
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Not their fault Manu starts at ILB and we have nobody else. Not their fault Baccallia played almost every snap for most the season. Not their fault for the FS coaching decisions. They’ve done their part. Both are all conference players.Tequilla said:
If Nick Harris and Myles Bryant are your leaders, then you aren’t going to be good enoughRoadDawg55 said:The leader stuff is only said because we lose. Nick Harris on offense. Myles Bryant on defense.
We don’t have a Tebow or Tui, but most programs don’t have a “vocal leader” that fans could come up with off the top of their head.
The leader of Death Row was probably Bierria. He was far from being the most talented guy on those defenses and probably was in the lower half. -
The last 3 seasons, the coaches have underachieved and mismanaged the team.
Remember when we were pissed in 2017 and 2018? Same shit as 2019. -
Offense has been mismanaged since Pete took over.whatshouldicareabout said:The last 3 seasons, the coaches have underachieved and mismanaged the team.
Remember when we were pissed in 2017 and 2018? Same shit as 2019.
There weren’t any issues with the defense. Manu continuing to play at this point is criminal.
I’m ready for Pete to simply be the CEO of the program and let the coaches coach. Give the offense way to someone new, without the Boise ties. He gets yes men and they simply do what Pete wants. We need someone who is not that.
Look at Jonathon Smith. If he got fired from the Beav he won’t), elite programs would want him as their OC. Pete was stifling Jonathon Smith. Not the other way around. We all know it, but the problem with the offense is Pete. I do think Bush sucks and should be gone, but not as a scapegoat so Pete can continue to fail. -
5-star TE/DE Darnell Washington just got ejected and punched his coach during a game this week.
He’s taking an official visit to Oregon after cutting his list to Bama, Georgia, Tennessee. This is the type of guy Petermann would never recruit. Single parent household, homeless at times. -
Bryant's the "best player" by default because the balance of the roster on defense is young. He's the leader by default.RoadDawg55 said:
Bryant is the best player on defense. Levi is the only one even close. Maybe Molden too, but Bryant is better.Tequilla said:
And also far more effective if your best players are doing thatRaceBannon said:Uncle Race happened to sneak into the practice, we talking about practice, where Stan Emptermann picked up a bench by one end and slammed it into the ground and cussed out the team and told them to get their heads out of their ass
Any coach will tell you that is so much more effective than a coach doing it
That was my point with Harris and Bryant ... good players but athletically limited
He does a lot of good things and plays about as well as one can expect given his physical stature.
When your leaders are your best players, that works far, far better.
If you are saying that Bryant is one of our best players, then perhaps the defense isn't that talented. -
There were a ton of leaders on that defense ... Bierria was one of them.RoadDawg55 said:
Not their fault Manu starts at ILB and we have nobody else. Not their fault Baccallia played almost every snap for most the season. Not their fault for the FS coaching decisions. They’ve done their part. Both are all conference players.Tequilla said:
If Nick Harris and Myles Bryant are your leaders, then you aren’t going to be good enoughRoadDawg55 said:The leader stuff is only said because we lose. Nick Harris on offense. Myles Bryant on defense.
We don’t have a Tebow or Tui, but most programs don’t have a “vocal leader” that fans could come up with off the top of their head.
The leader of Death Row was probably Bierria. He was far from being the most talented guy on those defenses and probably was in the lower half.
Stop pressing -
Guy with 187 on his tape never would have been recruited by Pete, and if he were a Sark leftover Pete likely would have run his ass. That’s a fact.
This fact doesn’t preclude the fact that the coaches have blown games for us as well.
Maybe we can trade Pete for Franklin so that loser Penn St fan can have his CLEAN CUT program and I can have a big dick winner that will punch you in the face. What say you @ThomasFremont ? -
By leaders you mean better players. That I agree with. Leader is mostly a bullshit term. If you play hard and are good, you’re fine. Not everyone needs to be rah rah and all of that is dumb fan talk. It’s really making something out of absolutely nothing.Tequilla said:
There were a ton of leaders on that defense ... Bierria was one of them.RoadDawg55 said:
Not their fault Manu starts at ILB and we have nobody else. Not their fault Baccallia played almost every snap for most the season. Not their fault for the FS coaching decisions. They’ve done their part. Both are all conference players.Tequilla said:
If Nick Harris and Myles Bryant are your leaders, then you aren’t going to be good enoughRoadDawg55 said:The leader stuff is only said because we lose. Nick Harris on offense. Myles Bryant on defense.
We don’t have a Tebow or Tui, but most programs don’t have a “vocal leader” that fans could come up with off the top of their head.
The leader of Death Row was probably Bierria. He was far from being the most talented guy on those defenses and probably was in the lower half.
Stop pressing
If we had better players and/or Pete didn’t fuck up games, this wouldn’t even be a topic. It’s only a bullshit topic because we have lost games.
The 2016 team was still led by Browning on offense. It’s not like John Ross was the leader and was getting everyone fired up and holding everyone accountable. He held people accountable by running past the defense for TD’s.
Certain positions are seen as leaders more than others. Center on the OL, QB obviously, and MLB and safety on defense.
We need Pete to lead better by not making dumb ass decisions. And we need better players and to stop playing guys that are liabilities. -
I’ll pass on Franklin.PurpleJ said:Guy with 187 on his tape never would have been recruited by Pete, and if he were a Sark leftover Pete likely would have run his ass. That’s a fact.
This fact doesn’t preclude the fact that the coaches have blown games for us as well.
Maybe we can trade Pete for Franklin so that loser Penn St fan can have his CLEAN CUT program and I can have a big dick winner that will punch you in the face. What say you @ThomasFremont ?
Otherwise, agree. -
imagine not wanting jerramy stevens on your football team
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ThisRaceBannon said:Uncle Race happened to sneak into the practice, we talking about practice, where Stan Emptermann picked up a bench by one end and slammed it into the ground and cussed out the team and told them to get their heads out of their ass
Any coach will tell you that is so much more effective than a coach doing it -
Nobody said the defense was talented. They are definitely not and they have holes. Has nothing to do with leaders tho.Tequilla said:
Bryant's the "best player" by default because the balance of the roster on defense is young. He's the leader by default.RoadDawg55 said:
Bryant is the best player on defense. Levi is the only one even close. Maybe Molden too, but Bryant is better.Tequilla said:
And also far more effective if your best players are doing thatRaceBannon said:Uncle Race happened to sneak into the practice, we talking about practice, where Stan Emptermann picked up a bench by one end and slammed it into the ground and cussed out the team and told them to get their heads out of their ass
Any coach will tell you that is so much more effective than a coach doing it
That was my point with Harris and Bryant ... good players but athletically limited
He does a lot of good things and plays about as well as one can expect given his physical stature.
When your leaders are your best players, that works far, far better.
If you are saying that Bryant is one of our best players, then perhaps the defense isn't that talented.
