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OOC Schedule Redux

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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,440 Founders Club

    There is no benefit to playing FCS teams. If you beat the shit out of them, you were supposed to. If you barely beat them, it's embarrassing. If you lose to them, you get fired at the 50 yard line and then go DIAFF.

    yet we still have the play in the apple cup every year.
  • Tailgater
    Tailgater Member Posts: 1,389

    Montana is not a cupcake. I don't see the problem scheduling FCS / I-AA teams if they are contenders. You should stop rolling all FCS teams into one dismissive bucket. The top tier fcs programs will put up a fight and I think it's better to invite local FCS teams (except the true crappy ones, eg Idaho St) than some middling IA team.

    Contenders in what? The Big Sky? The FCS Division 1-AA? Montana is allowed 20 fewer scholarships and smaller coaching staff. The Grizz is an underdog by design..... that's the definition of a cupcake for those of you who need a clue. Montana is one FCS Division 1-AA football program that could move up to FBS Division 1-A if they wanted to and they have thought about it the past, so why don't they? For one thing, there would never be an FBS conference for them to join and a second is probably that they would not be able to bring arch rival Montana State with them.

    The fact that Big Sky powers Montana, Portland State, and Eastern Washington are FCS cupcakes is really not the point. The point is that it is a fucking insult to those of us who buy UW season tickets as well as a blatant rip-off. We deserve better than a scrimmage opponent to beat up on each season and if the Huskies should loose to one of these FCS contenders, it would be the biggest embarrassment in UW athletic history...... even worse that 0-12. There is absolutely nothing to gain from beating the likes of Montana and everything to lose if we don't. Not my idea of appropriate gridiron competition for UW players, coaches, fans, and boosters.
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    well, woody is obviously going to keep up scheduling the FCS teams. I mean, look, anybody with half a brain can post on the internet. Is woody going to change his mind based upon your sage wisdom? My point is only that since FCS teams will be appearing regularly, get the good ones. You keep saying how much of a cupcake Eastern is, but i watched the cupcake put up 500 yards to 250 yards on the huskys last time. THe real cupcake is like Idaho State. Central could roll Idaho state on a good year, and did in fact just that. You keep writing that off the last Eastern game as a fluke. I don't see how losing to a true contender FCS team would be the biggest embarrassment in UW athletic history. That history is full of a lot of embarrassment of all types.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,440 Founders Club
    Honestly, if we're going to schedule these teams we need to do what Auburn did in scheduling a bottom-feeder in another AQ conference. And I doubt Woody will keep scheduling these teams when/if it becomes obvious we're a powerhouse again.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    well, woody is obviously going to keep up scheduling the FCS teams. I mean, look, anybody with half a brain can post on the internet. Is woody going to change his mind based upon your sage wisdom? My point is only that since FCS teams will be appearing regularly, get the good ones. You keep saying how much of a cupcake Eastern is, but i watched the cupcake put up 500 yards to 250 yards on the huskys last time. THe real cupcake is like Idaho State. Central could roll Idaho state on a good year, and did in fact just that. You keep writing that off the last Eastern game as a fluke. I don't see how losing to a true contender FCS team would be the biggest embarrassment in UW athletic history. That history is full of a lot of embarrassment of all types.

    disagree

  • Tailgater
    Tailgater Member Posts: 1,389
    edited March 2014

    well, woody is obviously going to keep up scheduling the FCS teams. I mean, look, anybody with half a brain can post on the internet. Is woody going to change his mind based upon your sage wisdom? My point is only that since FCS teams will be appearing regularly, get the good ones. You keep saying how much of a cupcake Eastern is, but i watched the cupcake put up 500 yards to 250 yards on the huskys last time. THe real cupcake is like Idaho State. Central could roll Idaho state on a good year, and did in fact just that. You keep writing that off the last Eastern game as a fluke. I don't see how losing to a true contender FCS team would be the biggest embarrassment in UW athletic history. That history is full of a lot of embarrassment of all types.

    I fully understand your point of view since you obviously are not a UW player, coach, fan, or booster. Of course, such indifference and non-affiliation doesn't make you right in any way.

  • Tailgater
    Tailgater Member Posts: 1,389
    haie said:

    Honestly, if we're going to schedule these teams we need to do what Auburn did in scheduling a bottom-feeder in another AQ conference. And I doubt Woody will keep scheduling these teams when/if it becomes obvious we're a powerhouse again.

    It's actually more about money for AD Woodward, although giving UW's football program a FCS cupcake and too-easy win each year looks good on paper while telling scoreboard to get stretched. Back to the money thing, the non-AQ conference FBS bottom feeders started asking for what AD's like Woody must think is unreasonable money a few years ago as compared to FCS cupcakes. For example, I saw a report that the University of Idaho, which is just barely still classified FBS Division 1-A so long as they continue to find some podunk non-AQ conference to belong to each year, was asking for in excess of $1million to come to Husky Stadium in Seattle. UW was able to contract with FCS Idaho State for less than half of what the Idaho Vandals were asking.

    Think about it..... the U of I draws 10,000 fans if they're lucky in backwoods Moscow and desperately needs money to keep it's football head above FBS water along side arch-enemy Boise State which refuses to schedule Idaho's "big school" university anymore. The Vandalosers did manage to get down to Tallahassee for good ol' 14-80 stomping by Florida State in 2013, which of course was Idaho's bowl game. The FCS cupcakes whose football programs are by NCAA rule considerably scaled down still require whatever revenue they can get by subjecting their undermanned and undercoached kids to scrimmage pounding on the road once or twice each year, while FBS bottom feeders have to ask for whatever they can get to continue in bigtime football where they don't belong. It's a collegiate football system that only the NCAA could fuck-up so badly.

  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Tailpipe, I know you're worried about how coach 'feels' and all, but, I'm pretty sure Peterman knows he plays a Pac-12 schedule in a BCS power conference and doesn't give a flying fuck what the media (hi, Kim!) thinks about it
  • section8
    section8 Member Posts: 1,581
    They won't stop scheduling FCS schools until some big time 1 loss team with a bunch of cupcakes on the schedule is left out of the playoff. There ought to be a risk/reward proposition to really boost strength of schedule to encourage FBS teams to play each other more OOC.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,139 Standard Supporter
    The infuriating thing is fans lose. Who are our biggest OOC games coming up? Illinois, Boise Beauty Academy, and SUNJ? El vomito.

    It won't change unti people quit watching and paying to see this shit.