KURDS FOUGHT ALONGSIDE THE U.S. FOR FIVE YEARS ONLY TO BE BOMBED BY U.S. NATO ALLY

CirrhosisDawg said:

Dude61 said:

We lost nothing by moving troops out of Syria. The mission was accomplished, ISIS was destroyed.

Except for the 12,000 Kurd-held isis detainees and their wives and children that are now going to be free to resume terrorism in the US. Thanks trump!

If they survive the bombings by the Turks.

RaceBannon said:

ThomasFremont said:

RaceBannon said:

You're giving up?

Any time you want to answer the question, we can try again. Otherwise it’s a clear victory for me. Many are calling it a GREAT victory. Not me, I’m too humble. But lots of people are saying it. Maybe it’s true after all.

Asked and answered

You don't have to like it

Off topic ramblings about NATO are a non answer and you know it.

ThomasFremont said:

salemcoog said:

ThomasFremont said:

RaceBannon said:

ThomasFremont said:

RaceBannon said:

ThomasFremont said:

RaceBannon said:

Sounds like you supported bringing the troops home before you didn't

We aren’t bringing them home. That’s the point.

We are and everytime Trump tries to expand it the globalist military industrial tools cry bloody murder

I guess we aren't bringing them home the right way.

I’m glad you agree we aren’t bringing them home.

So what was the strategic thinking behind this move?

Trump bad

When you can expand your thinking you can answer your own question

We're bringing the boys home

You just said it was too hard. They’re not coming home.

Seems like a conveniently timed redeployment that leaves our allies to be slaughtered by our other allies is the best we can do.

Shameful shit.

Again, what did we gain here?

Turkey is our ally for better or worse. They have been for decades and decades. So if you have a beef with this, I would suggest you redirect your anger to the right places.

Your fake outrage should be directed at canceling the ghost of Eisenhower.

Yes they are our ally.

We are the leaders of said alliance.

Lead.

I remember when it was really really bad for Trump to flex with NATO to make them pay their fair share. It was a despicable act that alienated our allies.

Do you remember that?

salemcoog said:

ThomasFremont said:

salemcoog said:

ThomasFremont said:

RaceBannon said:

ThomasFremont said:

RaceBannon said:

ThomasFremont said:

RaceBannon said:

Sounds like you supported bringing the troops home before you didn't

We aren’t bringing them home. That’s the point.

We are and everytime Trump tries to expand it the globalist military industrial tools cry bloody murder

I guess we aren't bringing them home the right way.

I’m glad you agree we aren’t bringing them home.

So what was the strategic thinking behind this move?

Trump bad

When you can expand your thinking you can answer your own question

We're bringing the boys home

You just said it was too hard. They’re not coming home.

Seems like a conveniently timed redeployment that leaves our allies to be slaughtered by our other allies is the best we can do.

Shameful shit.

Again, what did we gain here?

Turkey is our ally for better or worse. They have been for decades and decades. So if you have a beef with this, I would suggest you redirect your anger to the right places.

Your fake outrage should be directed at canceling the ghost of Eisenhower.

Yes they are our ally.

We are the leaders of said alliance.

Lead.

I remember when it was really really bad for Trump to flex with NATO to make them pay their fair share. It was a despicable act that alienated our allies.

Do you remember that?

Do you remember how this has nothing to do with NATO?

ThomasFremont said:

RaceBannon said:

ThomasFremont said:

RaceBannon said:

Kick Turkey out of NATO

Or just keep pretending like you give a shit

How about some leadership?

Oh, we don’t have that anymore.

It’s almost like having a leader that the world ridicules and hates isn’t working. Can’t stop Turkey from killing our allies. It’s hard.

Pathetic.

Were you pretending to care when you tore your hair out over Obama withdrawing troops from Iraq?

When did I do that?

Both Obama and Trump promised to get the troops home.

Turkey is being isolated. Which is good. What brilliant leadership let them in NATO anyway

If Turkey is attacked we are bound to defend them

Let's abolish NATO. I'm in

You did that back in your forever war defending days.

I support bringing the troops home, but holy fuck this was a colossal mistake.

We still have a shit ton of troops serving over there, so the idea that we are “bringing them home” is bullshit.

And we just rolled over and acted like there’s nothing we could do to convince Turkey to stand the fuck down. It’s hard!

Abolish NATO. Brilliant.

NATO needs re-examined at the very least.

Trump started down the path by demanding the member nations pay their own freight. That's not unreasonable.

Next, relative to aggression by members - and this is specific to Turkey almost exclusively though one could argue the US would be subject to the same coalition agreement process - member nations should be required to come in with some percentage of other members or the aggression would be held in violation and the nation gets the boot. Turkey is playing both sides of the fence here - they are beating on the Kurds but hiding behind their NATO status relative to a bigger bully coming in to kick sand in their face.

We? are really good going in as a member of a coalition. WWI, WWII, Korea (tie in the standings but very much a win relative to democracy in the region), Desert Storm, Bosnia/Balkans, early stages of Desert Swarm/Afghanistan, even partnering with Russia on wiping out ISIS....US is damned near undefeated. When we go solo/world's police, not so much - Vietnam, Somalia, later stages of Iraq/Afghanistan.

The never ending wars need to end. That is independent of but but Trump, but but Obama, but but anybody - it's a ridiculous waste of resources that are badly needed to address problems at home instead.