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jhfstyle24 said:

NEsnake12 said:

Saw this idea elsewhere and it made a lot of sense to me...

Give the kids a choice: either they get a scholarship from the school plus all of the living/food stipends that come with it, or forgo all of that to get endorsement money. They would still count towards the 85 cap.

We’d see real quick how many players can actually be worth the cost of all the things they’d be forgoing (hint: it’s not many)

I don't know if I like that, though. There'd be a lot of dumb teenagers taking the endorsement money who don't know any better and worse, snake oil salesmen in CFB would persuade them it's a good idea.

The counting towards the 85 cap makes sense, but how hard would it be for Nick Saban to use the Bama booster network, set up endorsements for all his top recruits, and start persuading all the kids in the country to come to Bama and make 100k a year?

I don't think that levels the playing field at all. The idea is fine - the kids will learn from the ones who make bad decisions - but there are ways that the rich programs can and will take advantage of it.

Winners win, I know. But that seems to just mean the rich get richer. This benefits flashy schools like Oregon and USC and downgrades ones like UW, since Pete would hate that.

jhfstyle24 said:

NEsnake12 said:

jhfstyle24 said:

NEsnake12 said:

Saw this idea elsewhere and it made a lot of sense to me...

Give the kids a choice: either they get a scholarship from the school plus all of the living/food stipends that come with it, or forgo all of that to get endorsement money. They would still count towards the 85 cap.

We’d see real quick how many players can actually be worth the cost of all the things they’d be forgoing (hint: it’s not many)

I don't know if I like that, though. There'd be a lot of dumb teenagers taking the endorsement money who don't know any better and worse, snake oil salesmen in CFB would persuade them it's a good idea.

The counting towards the 85 cap makes sense, but how hard would it be for Nick Saban to use the Bama booster network, set up endorsements for all his top recruits, and start persuading all the kids in the country to come to Bama and make 100k a year?

I don't think that levels the playing field at all. The idea is fine - the kids will learn from the ones who make bad decisions - but there are ways that the rich programs can and will take advantage of it.

Winners win, I know. But that seems to just mean the rich get richer. This benefits flashy schools like Oregon and USC and downgrades ones like UW, since Pete would hate that.

I think you're drastically overestimating the market.

DeAndre Ayton was rumored to be paid $10K per month by Sean Miller. That's a future NBA star in a sport where individual talent is far more important than in football (QB's excluded). Without finding exact $'s, I don't think I've ever seen a rumor of a CFB player getting more than $100K as a signing bonus, let alone annually.

And that's not to mention that there will be an inevitable bidding war for the elite of the elite talent, which will take away potential $ for the 4 star recruits

Albert Means was paid 200,000 by an Alabama booster in 2001 to sign, so it has happened and probably does often.

It's also different because it is paid public endorsements and not under the table. In a high penetration football market I would expect the endorsement setup for recruits to be very high, especially at an elite booster program.

NEsnake12 said:

This is going to snowball quickly, and players profiting off their likeness is probably unavoidable. Anyone here who thinks we’ll maintain the status quo is delusional.

The “scholarship or endorsements, your choice” solution is still the most solid I’ve heard, even though it’s not perfect as @jhfstyle24 illustrated