Running a trick play in the 4th instead of playing power ball
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It was equal parts maddening and embarrassing all at the same time. We had a huge group sext going with me and Yella and Doog_bot and Bazey and we all just shit ourselves when that shit happened. Just inexcusable up 2 TDs at the 50. Fucking still pissed about it today. It's beta loser cuck shit. Ram it down their fucking throats there or napalm Husky Stadium. FUCK!
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Inferiority complex.
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That's really at the heart of it. Pete needs to look in the mirror and realize he's no longer having sand kicked in his face by the playground bully. Pete is now 6'5" 230 pounds and trained in Krav Maga -- but he doesn't seem to realize it.AEB said:Inferiority complex.
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I think that's the correct answer 50% of the time (red zone), but in this case I think Pete is at this weird place where he think he needs to prove to the pollsters (national media) he can pull away from teams at will by showing extra dimensions that (he thinks) nobody will suspect is coming. I could be wrong and it's all inferiority complex, but my thought is he's just trying to state that this team is not one or even two dimensional but that they are deep when they want to be... my thing is that gimmicks just aren't worth the risk when you're in the lead.DerekJohnson said:
That's really at the heart of it. Pete needs to look in the mirror and realize he's no longer having sand kicked in his face by the playground bully. Pete is now 6'5" 230 pounds and trained in Krav Maga -- but he doesn't seem to realize it.AEB said:Inferiority complex.
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That's probably a better explanation than mine.Meek said:
I think that's the correct answer 50% of the time (red zone), but in this case I think Pete is at this weird place where he think he needs to prove to the pollsters (national media) he can pull away from teams at will by showing extra dimensions that (he thinks) nobody will suspect is coming. I could be wrong and it's all inferiority complex, but my thought is he's just trying to state that this team is not one or even two dimensional but that they are deep when they want to be... my thing is that gimmicks just aren't worth the risk when you're in the lead.DerekJohnson said:
That's really at the heart of it. Pete needs to look in the mirror and realize he's no longer having sand kicked in his face by the playground bully. Pete is now 6'5" 230 pounds and trained in Krav Maga -- but he doesn't seem to realize it.AEB said:Inferiority complex.
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I think it's both. True abundance. Half shrivel dick and half "smartest guy in the room."DerekJohnson said:
That's probably a better explanation than mine.Meek said:
I think that's the correct answer 50% of the time (red zone), but in this case I think Pete is at this weird place where he think he needs to prove to the pollsters (national media) he can pull away from teams at will by showing extra dimensions that (he thinks) nobody will suspect is coming. I could be wrong and it's all inferiority complex, but my thought is he's just trying to state that this team is not one or even two dimensional but that they are deep when they want to be... my thing is that gimmicks just aren't worth the risk when you're in the lead.DerekJohnson said:
That's really at the heart of it. Pete needs to look in the mirror and realize he's no longer having sand kicked in his face by the playground bully. Pete is now 6'5" 230 pounds and trained in Krav Maga -- but he doesn't seem to realize it.AEB said:Inferiority complex.
Whatever the reason, it's infuriating as a fan, and has to be depressing for the players. Those kids have played enough football to know when you are up 14 in the 4th and have the ball at the 50 you don't get cutesy. You play power football, impose your will, and burn clock. Not fag ball. -
I don't think it's as infuriating for the players, actually. I suspect if you were on the sidelines and your name was Puka or Ozzie you would be salivating to be in the position that Fuller and Opera Singer get put in...you'd be thinking "fuck...I can totally make that play without dropping it...I can totally make that (a different) play on the bubble screen and shake the first tackle and get the first down/positive yards...I could totally make something out of that punt return opportunity...etc, etc, etc..." I expect (hope, truthfully) that the playcalling is actually okay and that it's simply that we've invested far too much money in WeWork and Theranos while not realizing we have also have 1985 Microsoft and 2002 Google in the portfolio just waiting to get on the field.Swaye said:
I think it's both. True abundance. Half shrivel dick and half "smartest guy in the room."DerekJohnson said:
That's probably a better explanation than mine.Meek said:
I think that's the correct answer 50% of the time (red zone), but in this case I think Pete is at this weird place where he think he needs to prove to the pollsters (national media) he can pull away from teams at will by showing extra dimensions that (he thinks) nobody will suspect is coming. I could be wrong and it's all inferiority complex, but my thought is he's just trying to state that this team is not one or even two dimensional but that they are deep when they want to be... my thing is that gimmicks just aren't worth the risk when you're in the lead.DerekJohnson said:
That's really at the heart of it. Pete needs to look in the mirror and realize he's no longer having sand kicked in his face by the playground bully. Pete is now 6'5" 230 pounds and trained in Krav Maga -- but he doesn't seem to realize it.AEB said:Inferiority complex.
Whatever the reason, it's infuriating as a fan, and has to be depressing for the players. Those kids have played enough football to know when you are up 14 in the 4th and have the ball at the 50 you don't get cutesy. You play power football, impose your will, and burn clock. Not fag ball. -
What’s the difference, Wild Dick, triple Lindy, Psalm pass? Good teams are scouting this. I’d love to fact check tendencies. Seems like more often than not wild Dick comes out.
Why not just line up in the power I use Hunter as an H back (who has the ability to go in motion out wide) and Ram it up their asses Stanford style? Make defenses fear what’s coming with better athletes (sans the receiver group) and better discipline? That is Warshingron football. Not this WAC offense shit we have seen since Pete has been here. Even out of that power set you can break tendencies and option to the short side of the field.
Miley - Gone
Smith - Gone
Brownsocks - Gone
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More disturbing was Hamdumb’s response on the post game show. He acted like it was a fantastic call and the Huskies will always “remain aggressive”
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This. It's one thing to call some dumbshit play in the heat of the moment. It's more concerning to still think said dumbshit play was good after you fumblefucked it away and an hour later when rational football thought should have had time to process how fucking stupid it was.HuskyJW said:More disturbing was Hamdumb’s response on the post game show. He acted like it was a fantastic call and the Huskies will always “remain aggressive”
Hamdan is a dumbshit. Results are in. -
Go back even more. The 2 point call was incorrect as if you kick it, you go up 20 and the only thing that beats you is 3 td's. Chico doesn't get in and SC in theory can tie it with 2 td's plus the 2 point conversions and a FG. Both highly unlikely but still.
Then go for the pooch kick right after (yes it almost worked) where if you don't, they get the ball on the 35. Hell if your afraid Horn can't kick it out of end zone, which he struggled with yesterday kick it out of bounds.
Both plays are fs as you give SC chance to break momentum we had going. Risk simply not worth the reward.
The play at the 50 with 10 minutes left up two scores is so incorrect based on the game situation it's comical except it's not. Simply Take three knees and punt, SC is going to have 8 minutes left to score 2 td's and have to go minimum 80 yards to do it. They way Whitford and Kyle Gordon were going it's probably 90.
If you somehow can get one first down, there's 6 minutes left. Two and it's over.
Sadly, between Pete's game clock issues and these bizzarro/cutesy play calls that started year 1 game 4 versus Stanford at home (anyone remember the 4th 19 fake punt to Shaq where Stanford is yelling fake fake fake) I am to the point of just building them into the outcome of close games and expect them from us.
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I had forgotten this but thanks for bringing the pain back. Pete gets cutesy at the dumbest times. It's a habit at this point. Part of the DNA he's developed. Shrivel dick and do dumb shit.godawgst said:Go back even more. The 2 point call was incorrect as if you kick it, you go up 20 and the only thing that beats you is 3 td's. Chico doesn't get in and SC in theory can tie it with 2 td's plus the 2 point conversions and a FG. Both highly unlikely but still.
Then go for the pooch kick right after (yes it almost worked) where if you don't, they get the ball on the 35. Hell if your afraid Horn can't kick it out of end zone, which he struggled with yesterday kick it out of bounds.
Both plays are fs as you give SC chance to break momentum we had going. Risk simply not worth the reward.
The play at the 50 with 10 minutes left up two scores is so incorrect based on the game situation it's comical except it's not. Simply Take three knees and punt, SC is going to have 8 minutes left to score 2 td's and have to go minimum 80 yards to do it. They way Whitford and Kyle Gordon were going it's probably 90.
If you somehow can get one first down, there's 6 minutes left. Two and it's over.
Sadly, between Pete's game clock issues and these bizzarro/cutesy play calls that started year 1 game 4 versus Stanford at home (anyone remember the 4th 19 fake punt to Shaq where Stanford is yelling fake fake fake) I am to the point of just building them into the outcome of close games and expect them from us. -
We often bring up the fact that UW can alpha dog the shit out of WSU but shrivel up against equal or better teams. This is yet another example. In the 2018 AC, UW took possession with 8+ minutes in the game and ran out the clock. Very similar situation yesterday and Pete & Hamdan think they need to be cute with the play calling instead of just running out the clock. If you want to "be aggressive", go play action to Hunter or Otton and then run out the clock.godawgst said:Go back even more. The 2 point call was incorrect as if you kick it, you go up 20 and the only thing that beats you is 3 td's. Chico doesn't get in and SC in theory can tie it with 2 td's plus the 2 point conversions and a FG. Both highly unlikely but still.
Then go for the pooch kick right after (yes it almost worked) where if you don't, they get the ball on the 35. Hell if your afraid Horn can't kick it out of end zone, which he struggled with yesterday kick it out of bounds.
Both plays are fs as you give SC chance to break momentum we had going. Risk simply not worth the reward.
The play at the 50 with 10 minutes left up two scores is so incorrect based on the game situation it's comical except it's not. Simply Take three knees and punt, SC is going to have 8 minutes left to score 2 td's and have to go minimum 80 yards to do it. They way Whitford and Kyle Gordon were going it's probably 90.
If you somehow can get one first down, there's 6 minutes left. Two and it's over.
Sadly, between Pete's game clock issues and these bizzarro/cutesy play calls that started year 1 game 4 versus Stanford at home (anyone remember the 4th 19 fake punt to Shaq where Stanford is yelling fake fake fake) I am to the point of just building them into the outcome of close games and expect them from us. -
Can't take the Boise State out of the coach.
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Yep. Hell we all make mistakes but I was really looking for a mea kulpa There. At least then you know he learn from his mistake but now you have to wonder if he would do it again.Swaye said:
This. It's one thing to call some dumbshit play in the heat of the moment. It's more concerning to still think said dumbshit play was good after you fumblefucked it away and an hour later when rational football thought should have had time to process how fucking stupid it was.HuskyJW said:More disturbing was Hamdumb’s response on the post game show. He acted like it was a fantastic call and the Huskies will always “remain aggressive”
Hamdan is a dumbshit. Results are in. -
I didn’t mind the pooch kick.
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These 2 things go together more than 81% of the time.Swaye said:
Half shrivel dick and half "smartest guy in the room.".DerekJohnson said:
That's probably a better explanation than mine.Meek said:
I think that's the correct answer 50% of the time (red zone), but in this case I think Pete is at this weird place where he think he needs to prove to the pollsters (national media) he can pull away from teams at will by showing extra dimensions that (he thinks) nobody will suspect is coming. I could be wrong and it's all inferiority complex, but my thought is he's just trying to state that this team is not one or even two dimensional but that they are deep when they want to be... my thing is that gimmicks just aren't worth the risk when you're in the lead.DerekJohnson said:
That's really at the heart of it. Pete needs to look in the mirror and realize he's no longer having sand kicked in his face by the playground bully. Pete is now 6'5" 230 pounds and trained in Krav Maga -- but he doesn't seem to realize it.AEB said:Inferiority complex.
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You know what would have been really fucking agressive?
A play action deep ball for a td
No noodle arm no more
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the difference between the Chico shovel trick for 2 points vis-a-vis the double reverse fumble is that we continue to give Fuller too many opportunities for difficult plays and he can't handle most of them reliably.godawgst said:Go back even more. The 2 point call was incorrect as if you kick it, you go up 20 and the only thing that beats you is 3 td's. Chico doesn't get in and SC in theory can tie it with 2 td's plus the 2 point conversions and a FG. Both highly unlikely but still.
Then go for the pooch kick right after (yes it almost worked) where if you don't, they get the ball on the 35. Hell if your afraid Horn can't kick it out of end zone, which he struggled with yesterday kick it out of bounds.
Both plays are fs as you give SC chance to break momentum we had going. Risk simply not worth the reward.
The play at the 50 with 10 minutes left up two scores is so incorrect based on the game situation it's comical except it's not. Simply Take three knees and punt, SC is going to have 8 minutes left to score 2 td's and have to go minimum 80 yards to do it. They way Whitford and Kyle Gordon were going it's probably 90.
If you somehow can get one first down, there's 6 minutes left. Two and it's over.
Sadly, between Pete's game clock issues and these bizzarro/cutesy play calls that started year 1 game 4 versus Stanford at home (anyone remember the 4th 19 fake punt to Shaq where Stanford is yelling fake fake fake) I am to the point of just building them into the outcome of close games and expect them from us. -
Who were the guys that would always say "MyBush" ?
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Exactly. to me trick plays are NOT "aggressive" plays, they are high-risk finesse plays with potentially high-reward on the back end and are best used to shock a team early, after sudden change, or for when you are overmatched. I don't think any of the above applied at all in the situation yesterday. It wasn't aggressive as much as it was risky, and why be risky in that situation? We had our chance to pound mighty SC and instead we puss out, run a ding-dong, tossing the ball around like a faggy pack of frat boys.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
We often bring up the fact that UW can alpha dog the shit out of WSU but shrivel up against equal or better teams. This is yet another example. In the 2018 AC, UW took possession with 8+ minutes in the game and ran out the clock. Very similar situation yesterday and Pete & Hamdan think they need to be cute with the play calling instead of just running out the clock. If you want to "be aggressive", go play action to Hunter or Otton and then run out the clock.godawgst said:Go back even more. The 2 point call was incorrect as if you kick it, you go up 20 and the only thing that beats you is 3 td's. Chico doesn't get in and SC in theory can tie it with 2 td's plus the 2 point conversions and a FG. Both highly unlikely but still.
Then go for the pooch kick right after (yes it almost worked) where if you don't, they get the ball on the 35. Hell if your afraid Horn can't kick it out of end zone, which he struggled with yesterday kick it out of bounds.
Both plays are fs as you give SC chance to break momentum we had going. Risk simply not worth the reward.
The play at the 50 with 10 minutes left up two scores is so incorrect based on the game situation it's comical except it's not. Simply Take three knees and punt, SC is going to have 8 minutes left to score 2 td's and have to go minimum 80 yards to do it. They way Whitford and Kyle Gordon were going it's probably 90.
If you somehow can get one first down, there's 6 minutes left. Two and it's over.
Sadly, between Pete's game clock issues and these bizzarro/cutesy play calls that started year 1 game 4 versus Stanford at home (anyone remember the 4th 19 fake punt to Shaq where Stanford is yelling fake fake fake) I am to the point of just building them into the outcome of close games and expect them from us. -
I don't know, maybe you guys are right, but at the heart of it, I think Petersen is just trying to make things fun for the players. He's said as much a few years back. The players like the trick plays, so he obliges when he feels he has a safe lead. For all we know it was a reward play, worked on all week: "Get up by two touchdowns, and I'll let you run this."
It's all speculation, but football is supposed to be fun. When those plays work, the fans love it, the players love it, it saps the other team's will.
All that being said, it was fucking stupid and should never be done again. -
I'm 90% with you on this.Swaye said:
This. It's one thing to call some dumbshit play in the heat of the moment. It's more concerning to still think said dumbshit play was good after you fumblefucked it away and an hour later when rational football thought should have had time to process how fucking stupid it was.HuskyJW said:More disturbing was Hamdumb’s response on the post game show. He acted like it was a fantastic call and the Huskies will always “remain aggressive”
Hamdan is a dumbshit. Results are in.
The other possibility here is that this was Pete's idea/play/call and Bush isn't going to throw his boss under the boss, nor is he going to criticize his boss publicly.
I'm not sure which scenario is worse.
Either way it was a bad call made worse by the corner blitz SC brought. But even without that blitz I don't think Hunter B is the guy I want handling a pitch.
Was Fuller supposed to throw to Ahmed on the wheel had he actually received the pitch?
