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Over 300 former national security professionals call out Trump for "unconscionable abuse of power"

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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,753 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    So a former VP running for president can withhold aid to a foreign government while VP to influence the criminal investigation of his son by that same government and brag about it but the President, who is required by law to report such abuses, can't ask for an investigation to an admitted abuse of power? Trump has first hand knowledge since rocket scientist Joe confessed to it on video for the whole world to see. But we should investigate Trump for a made up accusation that the victim of said claim denies ever happened based and the transcript proves it didn't happen. All based on hearsay of a biased person that over heard something being said in a complaint drawn up by a law firm most likely paid for by democrats.

    Talk about pressing!

    We knew he pressed for the firing of the prosecutor. He didn't hide that fact; he advertised it. It wasn't a secret that such an outcome was sought by the US and others. Your interest in it seems to have come up only when Daddy's extortion racket became public.

    If you have evidence that Biden instead acted in order to help his son, bring it forward Mall Cop.
    I wasn't aware of his criminal actions prior. How does threatening witnesses and government officials work in your world?
    MallCop: Criminal actions = Furthering US policy

    That's the "blame America" crowd for ya.
    Ah so Trump doing his duty as required is criminal. But Joe doing crime is good to go because policy. How does it work in court for you when the victim of the crime says it didn't happen? How does it work when the suspect who is charged with the crime confesses?Legal much?

    Legal opinion?

    I've watched attempted murderers walk because they recanted in that circumstance. Gang members like to get even on the street.

  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    Gee...this doesn't sound staged. At all. Really. Promise.



  • Blu82
    Blu82 Member Posts: 1,672
    RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA! 2.0 is blowing up in the Dems face.

    The real question is, when will they turn on each other?

    It's sure to happen.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,882 Founders Club
    Its not the crime its the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up of the cover up
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    The only thing you've exposed on here is yourself as a bitchass partisan Kunt and a closeted gay pedophile.

    Calm down turbo. Why so mad?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,069
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    So a former VP running for president can withhold aid to a foreign government while VP to influence the criminal investigation of his son by that same government and brag about it but the President, who is required by law to report such abuses, can't ask for an investigation to an admitted abuse of power? Trump has first hand knowledge since rocket scientist Joe confessed to it on video for the whole world to see. But we should investigate Trump for a made up accusation that the victim of said claim denies ever happened based and the transcript proves it didn't happen. All based on hearsay of a biased person that over heard something being said in a complaint drawn up by a law firm most likely paid for by democrats.

    Talk about pressing!

    That's not what happened. But I understand why your simple mind sees it that way.
    What happened then? In your own words.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    So a former VP running for president can withhold aid to a foreign government while VP to influence the criminal investigation of his son by that same government and brag about it but the President, who is required by law to report such abuses, can't ask for an investigation to an admitted abuse of power? Trump has first hand knowledge since rocket scientist Joe confessed to it on video for the whole world to see. But we should investigate Trump for a made up accusation that the victim of said claim denies ever happened based and the transcript proves it didn't happen. All based on hearsay of a biased person that over heard something being said in a complaint drawn up by a law firm most likely paid for by democrats.

    Talk about pressing!

    That's not what happened. But I understand why your simple mind sees it that way.
    What happened then? In your own words.
    Cue the Kunt act.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    So a former VP running for president can withhold aid to a foreign government while VP to influence the criminal investigation of his son by that same government and brag about it but the President, who is required by law to report such abuses, can't ask for an investigation to an admitted abuse of power? Trump has first hand knowledge since rocket scientist Joe confessed to it on video for the whole world to see. But we should investigate Trump for a made up accusation that the victim of said claim denies ever happened based and the transcript proves it didn't happen. All based on hearsay of a biased person that over heard something being said in a complaint drawn up by a law firm most likely paid for by democrats.

    Talk about pressing!

    That's not what happened. But I understand why your simple mind sees it that way.
    What happened then? In your own words.
    Well you see throbber. Many of the other world leaders were calling for the guy to get fired. And Biden is a talker and bragging about shit that wasn't really on him. Not to mention, that person wasn't even investigating his son. So pretty much every fact I highlighted in bold is wrong other than the fact Biden said those words.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    So a former VP running for president can withhold aid to a foreign government while VP to influence the criminal investigation of his son by that same government and brag about it but the President, who is required by law to report such abuses, can't ask for an investigation to an admitted abuse of power? Trump has first hand knowledge since rocket scientist Joe confessed to it on video for the whole world to see. But we should investigate Trump for a made up accusation that the victim of said claim denies ever happened based and the transcript proves it didn't happen. All based on hearsay of a biased person that over heard something being said in a complaint drawn up by a law firm most likely paid for by democrats.

    Talk about pressing!

    That's not what happened. But I understand why your simple mind sees it that way.
    What happened then? In your own words.
    Well you see throbber. Many of the other world leaders were calling for the guy to get fired. And Biden is a talker and bragging about shit that wasn't really on him. Not to mention, that person wasn't even investigating his son. So pretty much every fact I highlighted in bold is wrong other than the fact Biden said those words.
    But he was investigating the NG company, and I don't recall any other world leaders saying they were going to hold up a billion dollar loan unless they fired the guy.

    Got in more bullshit Kunt?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint? Obviously it's second hand information but there's a lot more to it than just a phone call. The issue isn't as much what Trump did, but the cover up. After reading more on the Clinton deal this morning, the fact pattern is similar to that scenario. Although Trump isn't under oath yet. I've told you guys all along that the Democrat plan has been to get him under oath for anything. This might be their chance.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint? Obviously it's second hand information but there's a lot more to it than just a phone call. The issue isn't as much what Trump did, but the cover up. After reading more on the Clinton deal this morning, the fact pattern is similar to that scenario. Although Trump isn't under oath yet. I've told you guys all along that the Democrat plan has been to get him under oath for anything. This might be their chance.

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint?


    Hondo falls back on the old standby Kunt act when he can't back up his mouth. There's no fucking way in hell that Hondo read either the Memo or the Complaint but he'll pretend he did while he regurgitates the few talking points he can remember.

    This month's version of "Read the Mueller Report."

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint? Obviously it's second hand information but there's a lot more to it than just a phone call. The issue isn't as much what Trump did, but the cover up. After reading more on the Clinton deal this morning, the fact pattern is similar to that scenario. Although Trump isn't under oath yet. I've told you guys all along that the Democrat plan has been to get him under oath for anything. This might be their chance.

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint?


    Hondo falls back on the old standby Kunt act when he can't back up his mouth. There's no fucking way in hell that Hondo read either the Memo or the Complaint but he'll pretend he did while he regurgitates the few talking points he can remember.

    This month's version of "Read the Mueller Report."

    Bob doesn't read the next two sentences. Where I explain what I meant by that. You really are struggling today bro. Worried bout you.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,069

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
    Expand on that. If his daughter is profiting like apparently hunter did, I have no problem punishing her or him

    I’d rather punish her but that’s a personal fetish not corruption related. Yeah you know me.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,069
    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint? Obviously it's second hand information but there's a lot more to it than just a phone call. The issue isn't as much what Trump did, but the cover up. After reading more on the Clinton deal this morning, the fact pattern is similar to that scenario. Although Trump isn't under oath yet. I've told you guys all along that the Democrat plan has been to get him under oath for anything. This might be their chance.

    Yeah I did. It bears little resemblance to the transcript and what the Ukraine president says was said and how he took it.

    So explain away.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
    Expand on that. If his daughter is profiting like apparently hunter did, I have no problem punishing her or him

    I’d rather punish her but that’s a personal fetish not corruption related. Yeah you know me.
    Pics? Come on man for the home team.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,069
    edited September 2019
    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
    Expand on that. If his daughter is profiting like apparently hunter did, I have no problem punishing her or him

    I’d rather punish her but that’s a personal fetish not corruption related. Yeah you know me.
    Pics? Come on man for the home team.
    Not at my PC and I suck at posting pics on the phone.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
    Expand on that. If his daughter is profiting like apparently hunter did, I have no problem punishing her or him

    I’d rather punish her but that’s a personal fetish not corruption related. Yeah you know me.
    Pics? Come on man for the home team.
    Not at my PC and I suck at posting pics on the phone.
    True dat. And I've given up on Photofuckit.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,069
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
    Expand on that. If his daughter is profiting like apparently hunter did, I have no problem punishing her or him

    I’d rather punish her but that’s a personal fetish not corruption related. Yeah you know me.
    Pics? Come on man for the home team.
    Not at my PC and I suck at posting pics on the phone.
    True dat. And I've given up on Photofuckit.
    Explain away. Focus.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint? Obviously it's second hand information but there's a lot more to it than just a phone call. The issue isn't as much what Trump did, but the cover up. After reading more on the Clinton deal this morning, the fact pattern is similar to that scenario. Although Trump isn't under oath yet. I've told you guys all along that the Democrat plan has been to get him under oath for anything. This might be their chance.

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint?


    Hondo falls back on the old standby Kunt act when he can't back up his mouth. There's no fucking way in hell that Hondo read either the Memo or the Complaint but he'll pretend he did while he regurgitates the few talking points he can remember.

    This month's version of "Read the Mueller Report."

    Bob doesn't read the next two sentences. Where I explain what I meant by that. You really are struggling today bro. Worried bout you.
    You mean the next two sentences where you just mouthed vacuous twaddle?

    Obviously it's second hand information but there's a lot more to it than just a phone call. The issue isn't as much what Trump did, but the cover up.

    Yeah, that's real fucking insightful you fucking moron.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint? Obviously it's second hand information but there's a lot more to it than just a phone call. The issue isn't as much what Trump did, but the cover up. After reading more on the Clinton deal this morning, the fact pattern is similar to that scenario. Although Trump isn't under oath yet. I've told you guys all along that the Democrat plan has been to get him under oath for anything. This might be their chance.

    Did you read the whistleblower complaint?


    Hondo falls back on the old standby Kunt act when he can't back up his mouth. There's no fucking way in hell that Hondo read either the Memo or the Complaint but he'll pretend he did while he regurgitates the few talking points he can remember.

    This month's version of "Read the Mueller Report."

    Bob doesn't read the next two sentences. Where I explain what I meant by that. You really are struggling today bro. Worried bout you.
    You mean the next two sentences where you just mouthed vacuous twaddle?

    Obviously it's second hand information but there's a lot more to it than just a phone call. The issue isn't as much what Trump did, but the cover up.

    Yeah, that's real fucking insightful you fucking moron.
    Yes you can post. But clearly can't read.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,882 Founders Club

    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
    Expand on that. If his daughter is profiting like apparently hunter did, I have no problem punishing her or him

    I’d rather punish her but that’s a personal fetish not corruption related. Yeah you know me.
    Pics? Come on man for the home team.
    Not at my PC and I suck at posting pics on the phone.
    I put my favorite gifs in a dropbox folder for easy use from laptop or phone

    Old dog

    New tricks
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
    Expand on that. If his daughter is profiting like apparently hunter did, I have no problem punishing her or him

    I’d rather punish her but that’s a personal fetish not corruption related. Yeah you know me.
    Pics? Come on man for the home team.
    Not at my PC and I suck at posting pics on the phone.
    True dat. And I've given up on Photofuckit.
    Explain away. Focus.
    Huh?
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,786 Swaye's Wigwam
    @insecuredawg - great source for unbiased views https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/national-security-action/
    did they have this letter written before or after the phone call? CBS using those guys as a source (and you doing the same) is why no one trusts the media
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,786 Swaye's Wigwam
    I should have made this easier for those who don't like to read The NSA =
    National Security Action (NSA) is a left-wing 501(c)(4) advocacy group largely composed of former Obama administration staffers and leadership. NSA works to advance global policies and oppose the foreign policy of the Trump administration.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,753 Standard Supporter
    LebamDawg said:

    I should have made this easier for those who don't like to read The NSA =
    National Security Action (NSA) is a left-wing 501(c)(4) advocacy group largely composed of former Obama administration staffers and leadership. NSA works to advance global policies and oppose the foreign policy of the Trump administration.

    More Obama commie plants.

    I wish you pussies would get to your revolution I ain't getting any younger!

    But I will be replaced when I go by my kids who are just like me!
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,069
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    I’ve seen multiple explanations that say Trump was investigating Biden and Biden’s son, making what appears to be an introductory get to know one another call and, then, asking for information to that end to ferret out corruption in both the US and Ukraine.

    All I’d like to see is one plausible scenario (based on what was released in the transcript - though H won’t call it a transcript) that counters the scenario outlined above.

    Is that too difficult of a task?

    Great point throbber. Maybe it was all very innocent? Can I ask a favor? Maybe trump is also having casual conversations about corruption in China with Xi and asking about Ivanka’s copyrights there too? After all, trump is notoriously against corruption. What do you think?
    Expand on that. If his daughter is profiting like apparently hunter did, I have no problem punishing her or him

    I’d rather punish her but that’s a personal fetish not corruption related. Yeah you know me.
    Pics? Come on man for the home team.
    Not at my PC and I suck at posting pics on the phone.
    True dat. And I've given up on Photofuckit.
    Explain away. Focus.
    Huh?
    You still haven't answered or explained from a legal perspective how Trump broke the law and is 'treasonous'.

    Nobody has, in fact.

  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,786 Swaye's Wigwam
    treasonous is not what they want - they just want impeachable.


    Remember high crimes and misdemeanors and we don't like him. I think that is how it is written