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Keith Taylor is taking too much shit

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  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    edited September 2019
    FirePete said:

    Baseman said:

    FirePete said:

    dnc said:

    digits said:

    dnc said:

    digits said:

    Disagree.

    No amount of shit is too much when you deflect a would be interception off your hands in the end zone to the opposition for a TD. Come the fuck on.

    Giving him shit over it is fine. It’s a major fuckup that thankfully happened in a game where it didn’t matter.

    Giving up on him or thinking it says much about the player he is and is going to he is dumb.
    Again, it's not an isolated incident. As noted above, he also dropped a pick last season in the end zone vs Cal (one of the 2 games he started last year) we? lose by 2. Did that matter? He has 0 interceptions for his career. One of his 1st snaps in college he got burnt for a TD vs Rutgers. He's gotten burned often. I hope he proves me wrong, but I don't see how he turns into a lock down CB. Hope he proves me wrong.
    Yeah I'm gonna have to disagree with you there.



    He's had some bad plays - three that you've noted here. He's not perfect.

    He's been good far more often than not.
    He grades out good, but I never seen him make a play. Most of the time we talk about him when he fucks up
    Taylor's lack of plays resulted from opposing offenses moving away from his side of the field for Murphy's, as last season progressed. That speaks volumes and Murphy did not suck.
    Ok understand that, but he was involved in plays where we got scored on multiple ties this year. His tackling has not been the best.

    I just haven’t seen that level of play that I saw from Buddha or Murphy where I was like “omg how he do that??!!!”
    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/63338/hot-takes/p1
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    edited September 2019
    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    Baseman said:

    FirePete said:

    dnc said:

    digits said:

    dnc said:

    digits said:

    Disagree.

    No amount of shit is too much when you deflect a would be interception off your hands in the end zone to the opposition for a TD. Come the fuck on.

    Giving him shit over it is fine. It’s a major fuckup that thankfully happened in a game where it didn’t matter.

    Giving up on him or thinking it says much about the player he is and is going to he is dumb.
    Again, it's not an isolated incident. As noted above, he also dropped a pick last season in the end zone vs Cal (one of the 2 games he started last year) we? lose by 2. Did that matter? He has 0 interceptions for his career. One of his 1st snaps in college he got burnt for a TD vs Rutgers. He's gotten burned often. I hope he proves me wrong, but I don't see how he turns into a lock down CB. Hope he proves me wrong.
    Yeah I'm gonna have to disagree with you there.



    He's had some bad plays - three that you've noted here. He's not perfect.

    He's been good far more often than not.
    He grades out good, but I never seen him make a play. Most of the time we talk about him when he fucks up
    Taylor's lack of plays resulted from opposing offenses moving away from his side of the field for Murphy's, as last season progressed. That speaks volumes and Murphy did not suck.
    Ok understand that, but he was involved in plays where we got scored on multiple ties this year. His tackling has not been the best.

    I just haven’t seen that level of play that I saw from Buddha or Murphy where I was like “omg how he do that??!!!”
    This tim last year a big portion of this bored was down on Murphy.

    People forget that.
    Passes do get completed sometimes. We pretty much give up short passes on early downs because of our scheme.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    edited September 2019

    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    Baseman said:

    FirePete said:

    dnc said:

    digits said:

    dnc said:

    digits said:

    Disagree.

    No amount of shit is too much when you deflect a would be interception off your hands in the end zone to the opposition for a TD. Come the fuck on.

    Giving him shit over it is fine. It’s a major fuckup that thankfully happened in a game where it didn’t matter.

    Giving up on him or thinking it says much about the player he is and is going to he is dumb.
    Again, it's not an isolated incident. As noted above, he also dropped a pick last season in the end zone vs Cal (one of the 2 games he started last year) we? lose by 2. Did that matter? He has 0 interceptions for his career. One of his 1st snaps in college he got burnt for a TD vs Rutgers. He's gotten burned often. I hope he proves me wrong, but I don't see how he turns into a lock down CB. Hope he proves me wrong.
    Yeah I'm gonna have to disagree with you there.



    He's had some bad plays - three that you've noted here. He's not perfect.

    He's been good far more often than not.
    He grades out good, but I never seen him make a play. Most of the time we talk about him when he fucks up
    Taylor's lack of plays resulted from opposing offenses moving away from his side of the field for Murphy's, as last season progressed. That speaks volumes and Murphy did not suck.
    Ok understand that, but he was involved in plays where we got scored on multiple ties this year. His tackling has not been the best.

    I just haven’t seen that level of play that I saw from Buddha or Murphy where I was like “omg how he do that??!!!”
    This tim last year a big portion of this bored was down on Murphy.

    People forget that.
    Passes do get completed sometimes. We pretty much give up short passes on early downs because of our scheme.
    This!

    I'm more troubled with KT's early play at corner than his recent showing at Dime. Clearly he has struggled so far this year. I hope he gets it together for himself and the team. Pumping DBs into the NFL after three years in the program helps recruiting.
  • digits
    digits Member Posts: 1,756

    dnc said:

    digits said:

    dnc said:

    digits said:

    Disagree.

    No amount of shit is too much when you deflect a would be interception off your hands in the end zone to the opposition for a TD. Come the fuck on.

    Giving him shit over it is fine. It’s a major fuckup that thankfully happened in a game where it didn’t matter.

    Giving up on him or thinking it says much about the player he is and is going to he is dumb.
    Again, it's not an isolated incident. As noted above, he also dropped a pick last season in the end zone vs Cal (one of the 2 games he started last year) we? lose by 2. Did that matter? He has 0 interceptions for his career. One of his 1st snaps in college he got burnt for a TD vs Rutgers. He's gotten burned often. I hope he proves me wrong, but I don't see how he turns into a lock down CB. Hope he proves me wrong.
    Yeah I'm gonna have to disagree with you there.



    He's had some bad plays - three that you've noted here. He's not perfect.

    He's been good far more often than not.


    For additional context, UW's two NFL drafted Corners:





    And what's more:

    Why do you hate interceptions?
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    Taylor is where Bryant was after Stanford 17. Fresh in everyone's mind giving up completion after completion

    I'm sure his metrics are great and he really didn't give them up and actually played at an All American level but all I have is these eyes. He has talent

    McKinny looked the same in the Rose Bowl. Is he still around?

    I see him on special team, but have not seen him on field as safety.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    FirePete said:

    Taylor is where Bryant was after Stanford 17. Fresh in everyone's mind giving up completion after completion

    I'm sure his metrics are great and he really didn't give them up and actually played at an All American level but all I have is these eyes. He has talent

    McKinny looked the same in the Rose Bowl. Is he still around?

    I see him on special team, but have not seen him on field as safety.
    McKinney has played plenty at safety as a backup this season.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    A DB will give up a 7 yard completion and posters here will say he sucks. Every CB gives up completions.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,091 Founders Club

    Update:

    Keith Taylor held the Pac-12's best WR Michael Pittman to 3 catches for 20 yards, and a 44 yard TD where it looked like Taylor was playing a zone in the flats and Cameron Williams was about 2 seconds late to take the over zone (likely thought he was supposed to cover the flats). Busted coverage, but likely not on Taylor.

    Keith Taylor doesn't suck.

    I'll allow it

    I like this team

    That's all I'll say for now. But I have a feeling


  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,091 Founders Club

    A DB will give up a 7 yard completion and posters here will say he sucks. Every CB gives up completions.

    Every defense gives up some runs too

    UW played a very good game of defense against USC

    I remember the horror show of the ASU game last year where in order to stop Henry we had to let them grind us down the field time after time

    This time we? stopped three USC wideouts and still did a good enough job against the run. 1991 was the only Husky defense I have ever seen where a 4 yard run was cause for concern. Jerry Pettibone crowing about his wishbone getting 80 yards on 50 carries is seared in my memory

    The game has changed. Holding USC to 360 yard while winning is a GOOD defense
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    Update:

    Keith Taylor held the Pac-12's best WR Michael Pittman to 3 catches for 20 yards, and a 44 yard TD where it looked like Taylor was playing a zone in the flats and Cameron Williams was about 2 seconds late to take the over zone (likely thought he was supposed to cover the flats). Busted coverage, but likely not on Taylor.

    Keith Taylor doesn't suck.

    He had a good game
  • KrunkJuice
    KrunkJuice Member Posts: 2,070
  • Woof
    Woof Member Posts: 770
    KT has been really solid this year, but I expected a little more from him in terms of splash plays, INTs, and run support. Coverage is his primary role, so I'm not disappointed, just expected him to pop a little more. IMO, Molden and Bryant have been a lot more disruptive to offenses.

    The secondary is getting better every week, but there is still a ways to go in tackling and run support. Just shows how critical it was to have an eraser like Rapp in the secondary.