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  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,972
    edited September 2019
    Houhusky said:

    The wild dick has been run about 20 times and not worked twice....

    it’s easily at been one of our most consistently successful calls and that’s without dick ever handing it off, so it’s basically just a RB direct snap with extra distractions.

    Teams are going to spend time scheming against the 3 RB personnel package because it works really well and that’s when we can switch it up and do something retarded like go 5 wide with it against the defenses goal line personnel.

    I have zero problems with the wild dick wrinkle

    It’s only a matter of time until someone spots it and blows up Eason’s knees. I would
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168

    Wildcat has been very successful for us in short yardage situations. I understand wanting the ball in Eason’s hands, but I don’t hate it as much as some of you because it has worked the majority of the time.

    I’d venture to say it’s not the play but the player, Sanky, Gaskin and now dick
    So it's been successful regardless of who's back there? Then I'd say it's an effective play.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    Houhusky said:

    The wild dick has been run about 20 times and not worked twice....

    it’s easily at been one of our most consistently successful calls and that’s without dick ever handing it off, so it’s basically just a RB direct snap with extra distractions.

    Teams are going to spend time scheming against the 3 RB personnel package because it works really well and that’s when we can switch it up and do something retarded like go 5 wide with it against the defenses goal line personnel.

    I have zero problems with the wild dick wrinkle

    The problem with this is it's a way to lie with statistics. The wilddick is typically run on 3rd and 1. You know what other plays are wildly successful on 3rd and 1? All of them. The QB sneak has been equally successful on those kinds of downs, yet I don't see anybody begging to do it on 1st and goal from the 7. You know what hasn't happened on a non-wildcat play this season? A fumbled exchange that nearly turns the ball over and eventually leads to a fruitless drive inside the 10.

    So now let's look at plays that aren't only a yard to gain. How successful has the wildcat been on standard downs (like 1st and goal from the 7)? Because that's when it was fucktardedly called. The Huskies averaged over 7 yards per play in that game, and that's with all of the short wildcat gains and tackled-by-endzone thrown in. Nearly 5 yards per play on the ground, and that's counting sacks and FS wildcat. But you want your QB playing split end on 1st and goal from the 7?

    The wildcat is redundant. Everybody knows how to defend it--especially everybody who has to prepare for Stanford every season--and it's not statistically more successful than any other play. "But it gives the other team something else to prepare for" makes no sense, because it also gives the Husky offense something else to prepare. Which is how things like fumbled exchanges inside the 10 happen.

    Honestly, when wildcat is called on 3rd and 1, I roll my eyes and watch them pick up a 1st down, which they almost invariably would have anyway, but whatever. It's not worth getting annoyed about in those cases. Calling it on a standard down is when I get pissed.
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,972
    edited September 2019

    Wildcat has been very successful for us in short yardage situations. I understand wanting the ball in Eason’s hands, but I don’t hate it as much as some of you because it has worked the majority of the time.

    I’d venture to say it’s not the play but the player, Sanky, Gaskin and now dick
    So it's been successful regardless of who's back there? Then I'd say it's an effective play.
    Lindquist agrees 🤫
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    Wildcat has been very successful for us in short yardage situations. I understand wanting the ball in Eason’s hands, but I don’t hate it as much as some of you because it has worked the majority of the time.

    Wildcat has been very successful for us in short yardage situations. I understand wanting the ball in Eason’s hands, but I don’t hate it as much as some of you because it has worked the majority of the time.

    My issue with it there was that Eason was 18/20 at the time, and our run game was averaging less than 3 yards a carry at that time in the game. Eason was in complete control, and yet we chose to remove him from the play.
    Agree with both. It's hard to argue with the success, but it's till seems like something we don't need to do. If someone is going to be reading blocks and handing off the rock, I'd prefer it was our QB. We don't need a running back doing anything with the ball other than holding onto it.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,383 Standard Supporter

    Houhusky said:

    The wild dick has been run about 20 times and not worked twice....

    it’s easily at been one of our most consistently successful calls and that’s without dick ever handing it off, so it’s basically just a RB direct snap with extra distractions.

    Teams are going to spend time scheming against the 3 RB personnel package because it works really well and that’s when we can switch it up and do something retarded like go 5 wide with it against the defenses goal line personnel.

    I have zero problems with the wild dick wrinkle

    The problem with this is it's a way to lie with statistics. The wilddick is typically run on 3rd and 1. You know what other plays are wildly successful on 3rd and 1? All of them. The QB sneak has been equally successful on those kinds of downs, yet I don't see anybody begging to do it on 1st and goal from the 7. You know what hasn't happened on a non-wildcat play this season? A fumbled exchange that nearly turns the ball over and eventually leads to a fruitless drive inside the 10.

    So now let's look at plays that aren't only a yard to gain. How successful has the wildcat been on standard downs (like 1st and goal from the 7)? Because that's when it was fucktardedly called. The Huskies averaged over 7 yards per play in that game, and that's with all of the short wildcat gains and tackled-by-endzone thrown in. Nearly 5 yards per play on the ground, and that's counting sacks and FS wildcat. But you want your QB playing split end on 1st and goal from the 7?

    The wildcat is redundant. Everybody knows how to defend it--especially everybody who has to prepare for Stanford every season--and it's not statistically more successful than any other play. "But it gives the other team something else to prepare for" makes no sense, because it also gives the Husky offense something else to prepare. Which is how things like fumbled exchanges inside the 10 happen.

    Honestly, when wildcat is called on 3rd and 1, I roll my eyes and watch them pick up a 1st down, which they almost invariably would have anyway, but whatever. It's not worth getting annoyed about in those cases. Calling it on a standard down is when I get pissed.
    It’s extra blocking and a chance to gauge where the hole is on short yardage situations. We’ve broken off long runs from it too, especially Gaskin.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,575

    Houhusky said:

    The wild dick has been run about 20 times and not worked twice....

    it’s easily at been one of our most consistently successful calls and that’s without dick ever handing it off, so it’s basically just a RB direct snap with extra distractions.

    Teams are going to spend time scheming against the 3 RB personnel package because it works really well and that’s when we can switch it up and do something retarded like go 5 wide with it against the defenses goal line personnel.

    I have zero problems with the wild dick wrinkle

    The problem with this is it's a way to lie with statistics. The wilddick is typically run on 3rd and 1. You know what other plays are wildly successful on 3rd and 1? All of them. The QB sneak has been equally successful on those kinds of downs, yet I don't see anybody begging to do it on 1st and goal from the 7. You know what hasn't happened on a non-wildcat play this season? A fumbled exchange that nearly turns the ball over and eventually leads to a fruitless drive inside the 10.

    So now let's look at plays that aren't only a yard to gain. How successful has the wildcat been on standard downs (like 1st and goal from the 7)? Because that's when it was fucktardedly called. The Huskies averaged over 7 yards per play in that game, and that's with all of the short wildcat gains and tackled-by-endzone thrown in. Nearly 5 yards per play on the ground, and that's counting sacks and FS wildcat. But you want your QB playing split end on 1st and goal from the 7?

    The wildcat is redundant. Everybody knows how to defend it--especially everybody who has to prepare for Stanford every season--and it's not statistically more successful than any other play. "But it gives the other team something else to prepare for" makes no sense, because it also gives the Husky offense something else to prepare. Which is how things like fumbled exchanges inside the 10 happen.

    Honestly, when wildcat is called on 3rd and 1, I roll my eyes and watch them pick up a 1st down, which they almost invariably would have anyway, but whatever. It's not worth getting annoyed about in those cases. Calling it on a standard down is when I get pissed.
    It’s extra blocking and a chance to gauge where the hole is on short yardage situations. We’ve broken off long runs from it too, especially Gaskin.
    This. Its essentially a handoff except Newton can find the hole early and get the yard. Its great for short yardage. I dont like using it on 3rd and 7. I think they could even do without the fake handoff because he's not handing it off
  • JaWarrenJaHooker
    JaWarrenJaHooker Member Posts: 2,151
    Newton played WR in high school too.