Commerce Chief Threatened Firings at NOAA After Trump’s Hurricane Tweets, Sources Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/09/climate/hurrican-dorian-trump-tweet.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytclimate
The Secretary of Commerce threatened to fire top employees at NOAA on Friday after the agency’s Birmingham office contradicted President Trump’s claim that Hurricane Dorian might hit Alabama, according to three people familiar with the discussion.
That threat led to an unusual, unsigned statement later that Friday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration disavowing the office’s own position that Alabama was not at risk. The reversal caused widespread anger within the agency and drew criticism from the scientific community that NOAA, a division of the Commerce Department, had been bent to political purposes.
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#PrayingForAlabama
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Never forget the #BowlingGreenMassacreHHusky said:#PrayingForAlabama
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It's almost as if the forecast hadn't changed from August 28th when that clip is from to September 1st when Trump mistakenly said Alabama would most likely be hit much harder then expected...HoustonHusky said: -
Hey dumbshit...as I poasted last week that was the forecast August 31 5pm.
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Y2K is going to be a bitch, I hear.GDS said:
It's almost as if the forecast hadn't changed from August 28th when that clip is from to September 1st when Trump mistakenly said Alabama would most likely be hit much harder then expected...HoustonHusky said: -
Ya but who alters a map to keep it that way after the forecast changes?HoustonHusky said:Hey dumbshit...as I poasted last week that was the forecast August 31 5pm.
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A guy who has thin skin because everyone in the media is stupidly attacking him days later for repeating what the actual NOAA forecast was less than 12 hours previously (and what the media themselves were saying when they weren't incorrectly labeling Alabama as Mississippi...) .Gwad said:
Ya but who alters a map to keep it that way after the forecast changes?HoustonHusky said:Hey dumbshit...as I poasted last week that was the forecast August 31 5pm.
Keep lying...
You had a point?
HondoFS has some serious competition around here... -
Why do you lie on an anonymous message board? bizarre...HoustonHusky said:Hey dumbshit...as I poasted last week that was the forecast August 31 5pm.
Keep lying...
By Friday it had already shifted and was projecting to run up the Florida East Coast. Sunday Sept 1 Trump tweets including Alabama as one of the states likely to be hit much harder then expected. At 8 AM EST on Sunday morning BEFORE his tweet this was the forecast...
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Big if true
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GDS stand for God Damn Stupid?
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So 12 hours before Trump's tweet. The far right corner of bama had a 5% chance of 39 mph winds. Sounds like they'll take the brunt of it.HoustonHusky said:
GDS stand for God Damn Stupid?
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HondoFS...guessing you've never been through either a TS or a Hurricane.2001400ex said:
So 12 hours before Trump's tweet. The far right corner of bama had a 5% chance of 39 mph winds. Sounds like they'll take the brunt of it.HoustonHusky said:
GDS stand for God Damn Stupid?
And the second table you just uploaded was from two days prior. Be honest man.
I intentionally poasted those because they are dated (there are a bunch out there that aren't)...the forecast up until the morning of Sept 1 was for it to hit central Florida and go who-knows-where from there. Its fine to say his information was half a day old because it was...to say nobody thought it could impact other states and blah blah blah is a pure case of TDS.
Or just being really fucking stupid.
Or both...you know...like you...
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again...why lie to cover for Trump? Really bizarre. Everyone makes mistakes...but seemingly Trump is the only one who is incapable of admitting it.HoustonHusky said:
HondoFS...guessing you've never been through either a TS or a Hurricane.2001400ex said:
So 12 hours before Trump's tweet. The far right corner of bama had a 5% chance of 39 mph winds. Sounds like they'll take the brunt of it.HoustonHusky said:
GDS stand for God Damn Stupid?
And the second table you just uploaded was from two days prior. Be honest man.
I intentionally poasted those because they are dated (there are a bunch out there that aren't)...the forecast up until the morning of Sept 1 was for it to hit central Florida and go who-knows-where from there. Its fine to say his information was half a day old because it was...to say nobody thought it could impact other states and blah blah blah is a pure case of TDS.
Or just being really fucking stupid.
Or both...you know...like you...
Here is the forecast from Saturday morning. It wasn't projected to hit central Florida until the morning of Sept 1. Just stop man.
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No but we regularly see 40-50 mph winds and heavy rain in Spokane. We live.HoustonHusky said:
HondoFS...guessing you've never been through either a TS or a Hurricane.2001400ex said:
So 12 hours before Trump's tweet. The far right corner of bama had a 5% chance of 39 mph winds. Sounds like they'll take the brunt of it.HoustonHusky said:
GDS stand for God Damn Stupid?
And the second table you just uploaded was from two days prior. Be honest man.
I intentionally poasted those because they are dated (there are a bunch out there that aren't)...the forecast up until the morning of Sept 1 was for it to hit central Florida and go who-knows-where from there. Its fine to say his information was half a day old because it was...to say nobody thought it could impact other states and blah blah blah is a pure case of TDS.
Or just being really fucking stupid.
Or both...you know...like you... -
Keep ignoring the top note:
Note: The cone contains the probably path of the storm center but does not show the size of the storm. Hazardous conditions can occur outside of the cone.
At its peak the storm was the size of Georgia.
And I love the backtracking...'Trump lied...it never was going to impact Alabama' or wherever to now it 'he was quoting a forecast 24 hours old instead of 12 hours old'
God Damn Stupid... -
He did lie. This is what he said on Sunday at 12:30HoustonHusky said:Keep ignoring the top note:
Note: The cone contains the probably path of the storm center but does not show the size of the storm. Hazardous conditions can occur outside of the cone.
At its peak the storm was the size of Georgia.
And I love the backtracking...'Trump lied...it never was going to impact Alabama' or wherever to now it 'he was quoting a forecast 24 hours old instead of 12 hours old'
God Damn Stupid...
"And, I will say, the states -- and it may get a little piece of a great place: It's called Alabama. And Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be. This just came up, unfortunately. It's the size of -- the storm that we're talking about. So, for Alabama, just please be careful also," he says.
of course he was just trying to cover up for his earlier fuck up as it's seemingly easier for him to lie to cover up for a fuck up rather then just admit he was using forecasts that were 3-4 days old. -
But 57 states man.GDS said:
He did lie. This is what he said on Sunday at 12:30HoustonHusky said:Keep ignoring the top note:
Note: The cone contains the probably path of the storm center but does not show the size of the storm. Hazardous conditions can occur outside of the cone.
At its peak the storm was the size of Georgia.
And I love the backtracking...'Trump lied...it never was going to impact Alabama' or wherever to now it 'he was quoting a forecast 24 hours old instead of 12 hours old'
God Damn Stupid...
"And, I will say, the states -- and it may get a little piece of a great place: It's called Alabama. And Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be. This just came up, unfortunately. It's the size of -- the storm that we're talking about. So, for Alabama, just please be careful also," he says.
of course he was just trying to cover up for his earlier fuck up as it's seemingly easier for him to lie to cover up for a fuck up rather then just admit he was using forecasts that were 3-4 days old. -
This is your “lie”? A hurricane the size of Georgia was suppose to hit Florida/Georgia and you think it is a “lie” to say “Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be.” Have you ever been in the storm bands of a hurricane?GDS said:
He did lie. This is what he said on Sunday at 12:30HoustonHusky said:Keep ignoring the top note:
Note: The cone contains the probably path of the storm center but does not show the size of the storm. Hazardous conditions can occur outside of the cone.
At its peak the storm was the size of Georgia.
And I love the backtracking...'Trump lied...it never was going to impact Alabama' or wherever to now it 'he was quoting a forecast 24 hours old instead of 12 hours old'
God Damn Stupid...
"And, I will say, the states -- and it may get a little piece of a great place: It's called Alabama. And Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be. This just came up, unfortunately. It's the size of -- the storm that we're talking about. So, for Alabama, just please be careful also," he says.
of course he was just trying to cover up for his earlier fuck up as it's seemingly easier for him to lie to cover up for a fuck up rather then just admit he was using forecasts that were 3-4 days old.
Holy shite...you need to change your name to RGDS.
Really God Damn Stupid -
Again here you are just lying your ass off...true believer in the Trumptarded religion of stupidity. When Trump claimed he had new information that Alabama was going to get hit the storm was projected to stay well off the coast of Florida/Georgia.HoustonHusky said:
This is your “lie”? A hurricane the size of Georgia was suppose to hit Florida/Georgia and you think it is a “lie” to say “Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be.” Have you ever been in the storm bands of a hurricane?GDS said:
He did lie. This is what he said on Sunday at 12:30HoustonHusky said:Keep ignoring the top note:
Note: The cone contains the probably path of the storm center but does not show the size of the storm. Hazardous conditions can occur outside of the cone.
At its peak the storm was the size of Georgia.
And I love the backtracking...'Trump lied...it never was going to impact Alabama' or wherever to now it 'he was quoting a forecast 24 hours old instead of 12 hours old'
God Damn Stupid...
"And, I will say, the states -- and it may get a little piece of a great place: It's called Alabama. And Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be. This just came up, unfortunately. It's the size of -- the storm that we're talking about. So, for Alabama, just please be careful also," he says.
of course he was just trying to cover up for his earlier fuck up as it's seemingly easier for him to lie to cover up for a fuck up rather then just admit he was using forecasts that were 3-4 days old.
Holy shite...you need to change your name to RGDS.
Really God Damn Stupid
This is all so completely fucktarded but it shows Trump’s personality in a nutshell. He was uninformed and not up to date on the details of a storm and made a mistake when discussing it. Then instead of admitting he made a mistake and just moving on he doubled down by lying his ass off and threatens to fire the people who pointed out he was wrong.
That said he knows his base well because he knows mouth breathers like yourself will lie to the end of time to run cover for him no matter how fucktarded the lie. -
Huh? I’m quoting you moron...GDS said:
Again here you are just lying your ass off...true believer in the Trumptarded religion of stupidity. When Trump claimed he had new information that Alabama was going to get hit the storm was projected to stay well off the coast of Florida/Georgia.HoustonHusky said:
This is your “lie”? A hurricane the size of Georgia was suppose to hit Florida/Georgia and you think it is a “lie” to say “Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be.” Have you ever been in the storm bands of a hurricane?GDS said:
He did lie. This is what he said on Sunday at 12:30HoustonHusky said:Keep ignoring the top note:
Note: The cone contains the probably path of the storm center but does not show the size of the storm. Hazardous conditions can occur outside of the cone.
At its peak the storm was the size of Georgia.
And I love the backtracking...'Trump lied...it never was going to impact Alabama' or wherever to now it 'he was quoting a forecast 24 hours old instead of 12 hours old'
God Damn Stupid...
"And, I will say, the states -- and it may get a little piece of a great place: It's called Alabama. And Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be. This just came up, unfortunately. It's the size of -- the storm that we're talking about. So, for Alabama, just please be careful also," he says.
of course he was just trying to cover up for his earlier fuck up as it's seemingly easier for him to lie to cover up for a fuck up rather then just admit he was using forecasts that were 3-4 days old.
Holy shite...you need to change your name to RGDS.
Really God Damn Stupid
This is all so completely fucktarded but it shows Trump’s personality in a nutshell. He was uninformed and not up to date on the details of a storm and made a mistake when discussing it. Then instead of admitting he made a mistake and just moving on he doubled down by lying his ass off and threatens to fire the people who pointed out he was wrong.
That said he knows his base well because he knows mouth breathers like yourself will lie to the end of time to run cover for him no matter how fucktarded the lie.
Holy shite...HondoFSJr... -
Is Alabama the 57th state?
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Nah you’re the only one in this thread that lied and claimed the storm was projected to hit Florida/Georgia when he made the Bama statement. Keep on lying liar.HoustonHusky said:
Huh? I’m quoting you moron...GDS said:
Again here you are just lying your ass off...true believer in the Trumptarded religion of stupidity. When Trump claimed he had new information that Alabama was going to get hit the storm was projected to stay well off the coast of Florida/Georgia.HoustonHusky said:
This is your “lie”? A hurricane the size of Georgia was suppose to hit Florida/Georgia and you think it is a “lie” to say “Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be.” Have you ever been in the storm bands of a hurricane?GDS said:
He did lie. This is what he said on Sunday at 12:30HoustonHusky said:Keep ignoring the top note:
Note: The cone contains the probably path of the storm center but does not show the size of the storm. Hazardous conditions can occur outside of the cone.
At its peak the storm was the size of Georgia.
And I love the backtracking...'Trump lied...it never was going to impact Alabama' or wherever to now it 'he was quoting a forecast 24 hours old instead of 12 hours old'
God Damn Stupid...
"And, I will say, the states -- and it may get a little piece of a great place: It's called Alabama. And Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be. This just came up, unfortunately. It's the size of -- the storm that we're talking about. So, for Alabama, just please be careful also," he says.
of course he was just trying to cover up for his earlier fuck up as it's seemingly easier for him to lie to cover up for a fuck up rather then just admit he was using forecasts that were 3-4 days old.
Holy shite...you need to change your name to RGDS.
Really God Damn Stupid
This is all so completely fucktarded but it shows Trump’s personality in a nutshell. He was uninformed and not up to date on the details of a storm and made a mistake when discussing it. Then instead of admitting he made a mistake and just moving on he doubled down by lying his ass off and threatens to fire the people who pointed out he was wrong.
That said he knows his base well because he knows mouth breathers like yourself will lie to the end of time to run cover for him no matter how fucktarded the lie.
Holy shite...HondoFSJr... -
Nope. I said he was speaking off of info that was a day old. Which he was as the dates of the maps show.GDS said:
Nah you’re the only one in this thread that lied and claimed the storm was projected to hit Florida/Georgia when he made the Bama statement. Keep on lying liar.HoustonHusky said:
Huh? I’m quoting you moron...GDS said:
Again here you are just lying your ass off...true believer in the Trumptarded religion of stupidity. When Trump claimed he had new information that Alabama was going to get hit the storm was projected to stay well off the coast of Florida/Georgia.HoustonHusky said:
This is your “lie”? A hurricane the size of Georgia was suppose to hit Florida/Georgia and you think it is a “lie” to say “Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be.” Have you ever been in the storm bands of a hurricane?GDS said:
He did lie. This is what he said on Sunday at 12:30HoustonHusky said:Keep ignoring the top note:
Note: The cone contains the probably path of the storm center but does not show the size of the storm. Hazardous conditions can occur outside of the cone.
At its peak the storm was the size of Georgia.
And I love the backtracking...'Trump lied...it never was going to impact Alabama' or wherever to now it 'he was quoting a forecast 24 hours old instead of 12 hours old'
God Damn Stupid...
"And, I will say, the states -- and it may get a little piece of a great place: It's called Alabama. And Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be. This just came up, unfortunately. It's the size of -- the storm that we're talking about. So, for Alabama, just please be careful also," he says.
of course he was just trying to cover up for his earlier fuck up as it's seemingly easier for him to lie to cover up for a fuck up rather then just admit he was using forecasts that were 3-4 days old.
Holy shite...you need to change your name to RGDS.
Really God Damn Stupid
This is all so completely fucktarded but it shows Trump’s personality in a nutshell. He was uninformed and not up to date on the details of a storm and made a mistake when discussing it. Then instead of admitting he made a mistake and just moving on he doubled down by lying his ass off and threatens to fire the people who pointed out he was wrong.
That said he knows his base well because he knows mouth breathers like yourself will lie to the end of time to run cover for him no matter how fucktarded the lie.
Holy shite...HondoFSJr...
Big difference between that and “thinking you know more than the meteorologists” or whatever nutjob Orange-Man-Bad conspiracy you HondoBros are working off of today...
God Damn Stupid... -
Either Trump was lying or he is incompetent for not using current data. Sounds like you prefer the incompetent excuse.HoustonHusky said:
Nope. I said he was speaking off of info that was a day old. Which he was as the dates of the maps show.GDS said:
Nah you’re the only one in this thread that lied and claimed the storm was projected to hit Florida/Georgia when he made the Bama statement. Keep on lying liar.HoustonHusky said:
Huh? I’m quoting you moron...GDS said:
Again here you are just lying your ass off...true believer in the Trumptarded religion of stupidity. When Trump claimed he had new information that Alabama was going to get hit the storm was projected to stay well off the coast of Florida/Georgia.HoustonHusky said:
This is your “lie”? A hurricane the size of Georgia was suppose to hit Florida/Georgia and you think it is a “lie” to say “Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be.” Have you ever been in the storm bands of a hurricane?GDS said:
He did lie. This is what he said on Sunday at 12:30HoustonHusky said:Keep ignoring the top note:
Note: The cone contains the probably path of the storm center but does not show the size of the storm. Hazardous conditions can occur outside of the cone.
At its peak the storm was the size of Georgia.
And I love the backtracking...'Trump lied...it never was going to impact Alabama' or wherever to now it 'he was quoting a forecast 24 hours old instead of 12 hours old'
God Damn Stupid...
"And, I will say, the states -- and it may get a little piece of a great place: It's called Alabama. And Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be. This just came up, unfortunately. It's the size of -- the storm that we're talking about. So, for Alabama, just please be careful also," he says.
of course he was just trying to cover up for his earlier fuck up as it's seemingly easier for him to lie to cover up for a fuck up rather then just admit he was using forecasts that were 3-4 days old.
Holy shite...you need to change your name to RGDS.
Really God Damn Stupid
This is all so completely fucktarded but it shows Trump’s personality in a nutshell. He was uninformed and not up to date on the details of a storm and made a mistake when discussing it. Then instead of admitting he made a mistake and just moving on he doubled down by lying his ass off and threatens to fire the people who pointed out he was wrong.
That said he knows his base well because he knows mouth breathers like yourself will lie to the end of time to run cover for him no matter how fucktarded the lie.
Holy shite...HondoFSJr...
Big difference between that and “thinking you know more than the meteorologists” or whatever nutjob Orange-Man-Bad conspiracy you HondoBros are working off of today...
God Damn Stupid...
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Yes, its incompetence for using 12 hour old data. Millions of people died. Billions of dollars were lost. The economy almost crashed. Children died. Florida almost fell off of the mainland. Anything I miss?
And if its incompetence to use 12 hour old data to warn people to be careful (and if he really just said "Alabama could be in for really strong winds" or whatever GodDamnStupid said its even more inane on the Orange-Man-Bad morons around here...), what is it when fucktards like you and the Democratic Presidential nominees keep lying about fake Russia conspiracies that have been proven false and all the other shite they keep spewing? Oh...that's right...you like your double standards...
HondoFS...his link to reality appears to have died with Hillary's Presidential aspirations... -
From the dude who chanted about Benghazi and stand down order and shit for years. Ok!HoustonHusky said:Yes, its incompetence for using 12 hour old data. Millions of people died. Billions of dollars were lost. The economy almost crashed. Children died. Florida almost fell off of the mainland. Anything I miss?
And if its incompetence to use 12 hour old data to warn people to be careful (and if he really just said "Alabama could be in for really strong winds" or whatever GodDamnStupid said its even more inane on the Orange-Man-Bad morons around here...), what is it when fucktards like you and the Democratic Presidential nominees keep lying about fake Russia conspiracies that have been proven false and all the other shite they keep spewing? Oh...that's right...you like your double standards...
HondoFS...his link to reality appears to have died with Hillary's Presidential aspirations...
BTW. It's true that Trump's kid met with Russia and lied about it. It's true that people in his campaign met with Russia. It's true Russians bought a property of Trump's. It's True Trump was trying to build in Russia well into his campaign and lied about it.
There's other shit but you get the point. If Trump doesn't want Russian conspiracy theories out there, he shouldn't be meeting with Russia and lying about it. -
The time and effort expended on less than a 100 mile guess is unreal.
Meanwhile Rome burns.
Jesus. We? are fucked.
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And it's true that you still lie regarding the details of the Trump Tower meeting.2001400ex said:
From the dude who chanted about Benghazi and stand down order and shit for years. Ok!HoustonHusky said:Yes, its incompetence for using 12 hour old data. Millions of people died. Billions of dollars were lost. The economy almost crashed. Children died. Florida almost fell off of the mainland. Anything I miss?
And if its incompetence to use 12 hour old data to warn people to be careful (and if he really just said "Alabama could be in for really strong winds" or whatever GodDamnStupid said its even more inane on the Orange-Man-Bad morons around here...), what is it when fucktards like you and the Democratic Presidential nominees keep lying about fake Russia conspiracies that have been proven false and all the other shite they keep spewing? Oh...that's right...you like your double standards...
HondoFS...his link to reality appears to have died with Hillary's Presidential aspirations...
BTW. It's true that Trump's kid met with Russia and lied about it. It's true that people in his campaign met with Russia. It's true Russians bought a property of Trump's. It's True Trump was trying to build in Russia well into his campaign and lied about it.
There's other shit but you get the point. If Trump doesn't want Russian conspiracy theories out there, he shouldn't be meeting with Russia and lying about it.
And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.
What is true is that Hillary and the DNC paid a foreign national to get dirt on Trump from Russians with ties to Putin in order impact the election and you don't give a fuck about that. In fact you lie about it and claim none of that information was used to impact the election. -
Again...why do you continue to lie and claim it was 12 hours old when it was 4-5 days old? Trump could have ended this immediately if he just admitted he made a mistake but he decided to lie and claim he had some brand new information that just came out that showed Alabama was going to get hit. He repeatedly chooses to lie to cover his mistakes and then threatens to fire people who point out his mistake. While this example is as fucktarded as it gets, its his personality in a nutshell.HoustonHusky said:Yes, its incompetence for using 12 hour old data. Millions of people died. Billions of dollars were lost. The economy almost crashed. Children died. Florida almost fell off of the mainland. Anything I miss?
And if its incompetence to use 12 hour old data to warn people to be careful (and if he really just said "Alabama could be in for really strong winds" or whatever GodDamnStupid said its even more inane on the Orange-Man-Bad morons around here...), what is it when fucktards like you and the Democratic Presidential nominees keep lying about fake Russia conspiracies that have been proven false and all the other shite they keep spewing? Oh...that's right...you like your double standards...
HondoFS...his link to reality appears to have died with Hillary's Presidential aspirations...
