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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    Already calling it for 2020? I don’t know man...depends who he’s up against. If people get out and vote he’s toast.

    It's almost like you said this all before, back in 2016, before licking your wounds for the following 2.5 years.

    Hope springs eternal.
    What part of lowest turnout since 1994 did you fail to comprehend? If people turn out in more typical numbers, I think he will lose. I don’t know if they will. Probably depends a great deal on who gets the D nomination.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,553 Founders Club

    Look, I won’t interrupt the Trump circle jerk, but if you think he’s more popular than before, wow.

    I actually didn't say that. I said that whether he is or not isn't the determining factor and used Obama as an example

    Dig deeper
    Fine...2016 had the lowest turnout since 94. A lotta people weren’t engaged, assumed Hillary would win, or didn’t like her.

    Say what you want about Trump, but he’s got a LOT of people engaged now. It’s a lot easier to get people to vote against him now that he’s been in the news all day every day for 3+ years than when he was a political outsider.
    My counter is that people are more likely to vote for someone than against. The hate was real starting in 2015 up to the election that he had no shot to win

    You have no reasonable alternative at this point. And @dnc isn't going to give you one

    On the other hand a fair number of folks stayed home instead of voting for Trump in 2016

    This year they vote according to my anecdotal evidence
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    Look, I won’t interrupt the Trump circle jerk, but if you think he’s more popular than before, wow.

    I actually didn't say that. I said that whether he is or not isn't the determining factor and used Obama as an example

    Dig deeper
    Fine...2016 had the lowest turnout since 94. A lotta people weren’t engaged, assumed Hillary would win, or didn’t like her.

    Say what you want about Trump, but he’s got a LOT of people engaged now. It’s a lot easier to get people to vote against him now that he’s been in the news all day every day for 3+ years than when he was a political outsider.
    My counter is that people are more likely to vote for someone than against. The hate was real starting in 2015 up to the election that he had no shot to win

    You have no reasonable alternative at this point. And @dnc isn't going to give you one

    On the other hand a fair number of folks stayed home instead of voting for Trump in 2016

    This year they vote according to my anecdotal evidence
    Which candidate can beat Trump? We can all see the problems with Biden, and these problems aren't getting better between now and the election.

    Warren is so far left that Trump will have a field day making her defend her policies, same with Bernie. So who do you think is going to win the nomination?
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    No clue who gets the nomination. I’m on the Yang Gang for the record. But I recognize he is on the outside looking in still. Trending up though as others are moving down and dropping out, so maybe there’s a chance...
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    No clue who gets the nomination. I’m on the Yang Gang for the record. But I recognize he is on the outside looking in still. Trending up though as others are moving down and dropping out, so maybe there’s a chance...

    Yang has no chance of winning the nomination. You're looking at Biden, Warren, or Bernie. Amy K could win it but she isn't getting the nomination either.

    Unless Biden has a complete public mental meltdown he'll hold onto a enough support to win a split field. He has the black vote which doesn't help him in Iowa or NH but everything in SC.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club

    Look, I won’t interrupt the Trump circle jerk, but if you think he’s more popular than before, wow.

    I actually didn't say that. I said that whether he is or not isn't the determining factor and used Obama as an example

    Dig deeper
    Fine...2016 had the lowest turnout since 94. A lotta people weren’t engaged, assumed Hillary would win, or didn’t like her.

    Say what you want about Trump, but he’s got a LOT of people engaged now. It’s a lot easier to get people to vote against him now that he’s been in the news all day every day for 3+ years than when he was a political outsider.
    I agree with this.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,553 Founders Club
    Trump alienated a lot of the traditional GOP base with his rhetoric but managed to split the Dem base. This is part of low turnout.

    Most of the GOP is solidly on board with his policy work and judge appointments at this point and is also vehemently opposed to the progressives currently threatening to pull ahead in the DNC.

    The Dem base is still split. Progressives won't vote Biden or Hillary(2016) and we've yet to see if moderates will vote full on progressive. Imo they won't.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,553 Founders Club

    Trump alienated a lot of the traditional GOP base with his rhetoric but managed to split the Dem base. This is part of low turnout.

    Most of the GOP is solidly on board with his policy work and judge appointments at this point and is also vehemently opposed to the progressives currently threatening to pull ahead in the DNC.

    The Dem base is still split. Progressives won't vote Biden or Hillary(2016) and we've yet to see if moderates will vote full on progressive. Imo they won't.

    Well I agree with this
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,545 Standard Supporter

    Obstruction doesn't win elections

    You guys complain about a dictator while mocking a president for not doing things by himself

    You're part of the problem

    Be part of the solution

    The people will vote him in again NOT vote in another shit leftist Dem candidate

    Freshened up for the middle.

    Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Trump pulls even greater electoral numbers this time around.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,545 Standard Supporter

    Trump alienated a lot of the traditional GOP base with his rhetoric but managed to split the Dem base. This is part of low turnout.

    Most of the GOP is solidly on board with his policy work and judge appointments at this point and is also vehemently opposed to the progressives currently threatening to pull ahead in the DNC.

    The Dem base is still split. Progressives won't vote Biden or Hillary(2016) and we've yet to see if moderates will vote full on progressive. Imo they won't.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKsxPW6i3pM

    They won't.