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The scuttlebutt re: Haden, Sark and Orgeron

DerekJohnson
DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,309 Founders Club
Yes, this is a "what I'm hearing", but it comes from a dependable person I know in LA.

Petersen interviewed at USC and would have taken the job if offered. Pat Haden, already under fire from fans and knowing how much Ed Orgeron was loved by the fan base, declined to offer Petersen and hired Sark largely on the belief that Sark would be able to retain Orgeron and make everyone happy. But that part of it blew up in his face when Orgeron stormed out and quit.

How different might our world be right now had Pat Haden hired Petersen and we were still stuck with Corky?
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  • SweatpantsGeneral
    SweatpantsGeneral Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,154 Founders Club
    I may have joined the trio of fuckos in the gasoline filled hot tub
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    I'm still not convinced that Sark would have been retained by Woodward
  • I don't deal with hypotheticals.

    Sark is gone, Peterman is in, that is all that matters and I couldn't care less how it got there.

    THIS! Who gives a fuck how we got here. Sometimes you need a little luck in sports and this was our break that we got.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,267
    That was my worst possible scenario.....add in Wilcox going to UO though as DC. We would have lost all our best assistants and kept our worst ones.

    Yes, this is a "what I'm hearing", but it comes from a dependable person I know in LA.

    Petersen interviewed at USC and would have taken the job if offered. Pat Haden, already under fire from fans and knowing how much Ed Orgeron was loved by the fan base, declined to offer Petersen and hired Sark largely on the belief that Sark would be able to retain Orgeron and make everyone happy. But that part of it blew up in his face when Orgeron stormed out and quit.

    How different might our world be right now had Pat Haden hired Petersen and we were still stuck with Corky?

  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,674 Swaye's Wigwam
    We would have avoided the Kremlin situation we now find ourselves in and Sark would have set the recruiting world on fire. Peter Sirmon told Kim so while Kim was shining his shoes.

    Instead we have a non Kim fan friendly regime in place that recruits appropriate #s of linemen can't overstock the WR position with guys who pan out at about a 1/4 clip long athletes with great hips.
  • fivehundredmileDAWG
    fivehundredmileDAWG Member Posts: 1,212
    If true Haden is a dumb cunt
  • kh83
    kh83 Member Posts: 596
    In the above scenario, it seems plausible that Sark bolts for a pro job (looking at you, Cleveland) and we get our choice of Deruyter, Wilcox, Nussmeier etc. Fucking A, how lucky did we really get?
  • DawgDaze71
    DawgDaze71 Member Posts: 708
    Very lucky

    None of those coaches have the experience of Petersen
    kh83 said:

    In the above scenario, it seems plausible that Sark bolts for a pro job (looking at you, Cleveland) and we get our choice of Deruyter, Wilcox, Nussmeier etc. Fucking A, how lucky did we really get?

  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Is this the same guy that told you Mora to UW was a done deal?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Orgeron was an absolute dreckfest as a head coach at Ole Miss. Like really fucking bad.

    How fucking stupid are these USC fans to think that Orgeron had anything to do with their mini-revival (which was just a typical dead coach bounce) and should be the HC?

    True.

    OTOH, maybe they're just pissed they hired Sark.

  • DugtheDoog
    DugtheDoog Member Posts: 3,180
    For some reason, I just don't see Petermen going to SC in the first place. He knows who he is and what he wants. He knows he's not a good fit personally at SC and could be picky. I do believe it was a mutual balking. Though I still think he'd kill it down there, but unless Haden planned catering to his demands I just can't see it being a good cultural fit.
  • Is this the same guy that told you Mora to UW was a done deal?

    Derek's silence in this thread speaks volumes. The gloves were taken off.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Is this the same guy that told you Mora to UW was a done deal?

    Derek's silence in this thread speaks volumes. The gloves were taken off.
    Derek wants to roll?
  • Tequilla said:

    Is this the same guy that told you Mora to UW was a done deal?

    Derek's silence in this thread speaks volumes. The gloves were taken off.
    Derek wants to roll?
    I'm hearing from a reliable source that also said Mora is going to UW is a done deal and that Haden was going to hire Petermen that Derek wants to get down in a pissing match.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    For some reason, I just don't see Petermen going to SC in the first place. He knows who he is and what he wants. He knows he's not a good fit personally at SC and could be picky. I do believe it was a mutual balking. Though I still think he'd kill it down there, but unless Haden planned catering to his demands I just can't see it being a good cultural fit.

    Why wouldn't Petersen be a good fit at SC?
  • LevelPar
    LevelPar Member Posts: 447

    Yes, this is a "what I'm hearing", but it comes from a dependable person I know in LA.

    Petersen interviewed at USC and would have taken the job if offered. Pat Haden, already under fire from fans and knowing how much Ed Orgeron was loved by the fan base, declined to offer Petersen and hired Sark largely on the belief that Sark would be able to retain Orgeron and make everyone happy. But that part of it blew up in his face when Orgeron stormed out and quit.

    How different might our world be right now had Pat Haden hired Petersen and we were still stuck with Corky?


    According to my source in Boise, Petersen would not take the SC job. Same source who made initial contact with Petersen regarding the Husky job.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133

    Yes, this is a "what I'm hearing", but it comes from a dependable person I know in LA.

    Petersen interviewed at USC and would have taken the job if offered. Pat Haden, already under fire from fans and knowing how much Ed Orgeron was loved by the fan base, declined to offer Petersen and hired Sark largely on the belief that Sark would be able to retain Orgeron and make everyone happy. But that part of it blew up in his face when Orgeron stormed out and quit.

    How different might our world be right now had Pat Haden hired Petersen and we were still stuck with Corky? </blockquo

    I heard Petersen didn't Interview well in terms of his dedication to the long run. But i think i read that

    wtf? I thought Pete didn't see himself coaching in 10 years and that rubbed Haden the wrong way. USC would take Pete over Sark in a heartbeat in the short run. Watch Sark go 12-1 in 3 years and bolt to the Raiders. Haden and his pink glasses are going to get canned soon anyway so what does it matter. Question is, who is Haden ' s successor? Prolly won't be long.

  • DeepPurple
    DeepPurple Member Posts: 201
    I'm sure Pete would have been great at USC, if they had offered him, just like I'm sure Don James would have been great at Colorado, if they had offered him the year before we did (but they hired somebody else instead after interviewing James...).

    To me... the story just sounds like somebody at USC trying to claim "we could have hat Pete if we had really wanted him".

    Sark is their problem now.
  • Tailgater
    Tailgater Member Posts: 1,389
    LevelPar said:


    According to my source in Boise, Petersen would not take the SC job. Same source who made initial contact with Petersen regarding the Husky job.

    What you have from your source is the same understanding I've heard here in Boise from those claiming to have inside information on what occurred between Petersen and Haden. Petersen did not "interview at SC", but met with Haden here in Boise on the Sunday before Sark's announced resignation from UW on the following Monday or Tuesday. Haden's visit in Boise was very short and rumor has it that Petersen was never offered the SC job, but agreed to listen to Haden as he had to others in the past.

    All during the week between the Haden-Petersen meeting and Coach Pete accepting the UW job, there was a story out of L.A. tossed around here in Boise that claimed Haden was disappointed in Petersen's lack of enthusiasm for what SC's expectations for a new head coach (in the mold of Pete Carroll?) would be. Sources claiming to be close to what actually happened from Petersen's side called out the L.A. story as bullshit. The story here is that Petersen didn't solicit the interview, but agreed to a meeting if Haden stopped in Boise on his way to Seattle and their tet-a-tet never got close to a job offer.

  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303
    edited February 2014
    called out the L.A. story as bullshit

    Sounds true to me, always a bunch of feces emanating from LA

    In the end, who cares ...we get CP, they get In-Out-Burger-Boy
  • chrisvashon
    chrisvashon Member Posts: 627

    Is this the same guy that told you Mora to UW was a done deal?

    You never point out when he's right.

  • 90sHuskyFan
    90sHuskyFan Member Posts: 215


    In the end, who cares ...we get CP, they get In-Out-Burger-Boy

    I'm all for bashing Sark but if we're going to bash In-n-Out Burger I'm out!!!