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  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Nah she doesn't actually believe this. She's pumping up her generation (and slighting other generations) because it's good for her brand.

    She knows what she's doing.

    I don't think so

    She likes to sound like she knows what she is talking about but she really doesn't.

    Its not good for your brand to be stupid. And she is a true believer which is what makes her a threat. Combine stupidity with religious fervor and history can fill in the blanks

    That's like saying Joe Biden says stupid shit because its good for his brand
    Biden is dumb.

    AOC is probably dumb but not in the way the right is trying to paint her. She's dumb like Trump. Which is still dumb but much more effective dumb.
    To expound, no one is getting behind the dumb thing Biden says and embracing them as truth. His fans right them off as slip ups and faux pas. Biden is the left's version of W (and I still love W). Nobody who loved W believed he was right when he screwed up, we just defended them as slips of the tongue.

    With AOC, it's different. She's saying untrue things that her base actually believes. She's riling them up. And in the process drawing in some who were on the fringe and aren't very discerning.

    It's the Trump script to a t, just the left handed version of it.

    And just like with Trump, the other side attacking and calling it dumb is only going to reinforce to the true believers how right she is.

    She's done a good job coopting his strategy while tweaking the message.
    I invented the Trump analogy 2 years ago but it only goes so far and not as far as you are going here

    At some point it comes down to the message not just the messenger. Trump's message is one of hope and what's good for America.




    Christ.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    Its going to be fun when @dnc hands it to Biden and he isn't a stupid racist all of a sudden


    I don't think they're giving it to Biden but that would be very fun.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,527 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Nah she doesn't actually believe this. She's pumping up her generation (and slighting other generations) because it's good for her brand.

    She knows what she's doing.

    I don't think so

    She likes to sound like she knows what she is talking about but she really doesn't.

    Its not good for your brand to be stupid. And she is a true believer which is what makes her a threat. Combine stupidity with religious fervor and history can fill in the blanks

    That's like saying Joe Biden says stupid shit because its good for his brand
    Biden is dumb.

    AOC is probably dumb but not in the way the right is trying to paint her. She's dumb like Trump. Which is still dumb but much more effective dumb.
    To expound, no one is getting behind the dumb thing Biden says and embracing them as truth. His fans right them off as slip ups and faux pas. Biden is the left's version of W (and I still love W). Nobody who loved W believed he was right when he screwed up, we just defended them as slips of the tongue.

    With AOC, it's different. She's saying untrue things that her base actually believes. She's riling them up. And in the process drawing in some who were on the fringe and aren't very discerning.

    It's the Trump script to a t, just the left handed version of it.

    And just like with Trump, the other side attacking and calling it dumb is only going to reinforce to the true believers how right she is.

    She's done a good job coopting his strategy while tweaking the message.
    I invented the Trump analogy 2 years ago but it only goes so far and not as far as you are going here

    At some point it comes down to the message not just the messenger. Trump's message is one of hope and what's good for America.




    Christ.
    And?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Trump plays to a far broader base than AOC, for the tim being. AOC peoples are far noisier though, pound for pound.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    Trump plays to a far broader base than AOC, for the tim being. AOC peoples are far noisier though, pound for pound.

    AOC is able to appeal to the true believers and the hardcore left. She isn't winning over any moderate or conservative voters.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,527 Founders Club
    The message matters

    If Minnesota goes GOP then the Squad has done their work for Trump. We'll see.

    Trump ended up with a broader base than Hillary which is how he won

    A majority of Americans still like AMERICA in this one

    Maybe someday the globalist socialists will win a national election. I hope they try in 2020

    Trump isn't Trump because he tweets, he's Trump because of what he tweets. So is AOC

    That's the battle ground.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    The message matters

    If Minnesota goes GOP then the Squad has done their work for Trump. We'll see.

    Trump ended up with a broader base than Hillary which is how he won

    A majority of Americans still like AMERICA in this one

    Maybe someday the globalist socialists will win a national election. I hope they try in 2020

    Trump isn't Trump because he tweets, he's Trump because of what he tweets. So is AOC

    That's the battle ground.

    Trumps net approval numbers in Minn are quite a bit worse then Colorado, Nevada and Virginia. He's got better chances elsewhere.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,527 Founders Club
    GDS said:

    The message matters

    If Minnesota goes GOP then the Squad has done their work for Trump. We'll see.

    Trump ended up with a broader base than Hillary which is how he won

    A majority of Americans still like AMERICA in this one

    Maybe someday the globalist socialists will win a national election. I hope they try in 2020

    Trump isn't Trump because he tweets, he's Trump because of what he tweets. So is AOC

    That's the battle ground.

    Trumps net approval numbers in Minn are quite a bit worse then Colorado, Nevada and Virginia. He's got better chances elsewhere.
    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/62119/rural-minnesota-s-democratic-voters-are-shifting-allegiances#latest
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    GDS said:

    The message matters

    If Minnesota goes GOP then the Squad has done their work for Trump. We'll see.

    Trump ended up with a broader base than Hillary which is how he won

    A majority of Americans still like AMERICA in this one

    Maybe someday the globalist socialists will win a national election. I hope they try in 2020

    Trump isn't Trump because he tweets, he's Trump because of what he tweets. So is AOC

    That's the battle ground.

    Trumps net approval numbers in Minn are quite a bit worse then Colorado, Nevada and Virginia. He's got better chances elsewhere.
    While it would be better to have higher approval numbers until the Rats announce their nominee it's really not that important a number.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,178 Standard Supporter
    GDS said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Nah she doesn't actually believe this. She's pumping up her generation (and slighting other generations) because it's good for her brand.

    She knows what she's doing.

    I don't think so

    She likes to sound like she knows what she is talking about but she really doesn't.

    Its not good for your brand to be stupid. And she is a true believer which is what makes her a threat. Combine stupidity with religious fervor and history can fill in the blanks

    That's like saying Joe Biden says stupid shit because its good for his brand
    Biden is dumb.

    AOC is probably dumb but not in the way the right is trying to paint her. She's dumb like Trump. Which is still dumb but much more effective dumb.
    Biden is old and senile. If his handlers didn't tell him what year it is he might not be able to tell you...

    I think you nailed AOC. AOC and Trump are sort of different sides of the same coin.
    Oh, I didn't know Trump was a bartender who only got 15,000 votes from a disinterested and uneducated group of constituents. What was the turnout in her district? Something like 5%? Go back to making fuzzy navels AOC.