Left-Wing Journalists Celebrate David Koch’s Death on Twitter

I'm surprised you're? Surprised.

’m libertarian leaning – like Glenn Reynolds at Instapundit. However, at some point common sense needs to kick in and neither Glenn or I support open borders. The Koch brothers treat/ed libertarianism as a religion and that includes open borders. The official libertarian religion is that there should be no welfare and thus anyone coming to the US will provide value in services. You might eventually sell me on that (but probably not) but that’s not how it works now and never will. You need to make decisions based on reality not on believing in unicorn farts. The US is currently a welfare magnet to the third world and only Trump was running on that issue. Not one dem, then and not one dem ever, is going to deal with that reality. When you are in the same arena as AOC, you might consider getting out of the intellectual sewer.

Then they were never Trumpers. They didn’t like the tone. As I’ve said, I don’t believe in asymmetrical warfare. The Koch’s again completely ignored the actual facts on the ground with any republican being called a nazi white supremacist. They preferred the maverick – mitten’s approach of taking the high road and losing. Losing is for losers.

WestlinnDuck said:

’m libertarian leaning – like Glenn Reynolds at Instapundit. However, at some point common sense needs to kick in and neither Glenn or I support open borders. The Koch brothers treat/ed libertarianism as a religion and that includes open borders. The official libertarian religion is that there should be no welfare and thus anyone coming to the US will provide value in services. You might eventually sell me on that (but probably not) but that’s not how it works now and never will. You need to make decisions based on reality not on believing in unicorn farts. The US is currently a welfare magnet to the third world and only Trump was running on that issue. Not one dem, then and not one dem ever, is going to deal with that reality. When you are in the same arena as AOC, you might consider getting out of the intellectual sewer.

Then they were never Trumpers. They didn’t like the tone. As I’ve said, I don’t believe in asymmetrical warfare. The Koch’s again completely ignored the actual facts on the ground with any republican being called a nazi white supremacist. They preferred the maverick – mitten’s approach of taking the high road and losing. Losing is for losers.

What % of the total welfare state is attributable to third world immigration into the US.

You'll find a friend in me on the welfare state issue. What else should we do to deal with that problem? Do you mind it that much less when it happens to be someone who by accident of history was born here?

I'm all for doing something about the bloated welfare state, but it should be an effort to minimize it across the board; all users.

As for people who come here, make it simple: ten years, no welfare. You have to be here for 10 years and working and current on your taxes before you can apply for anything. Like 20 better? I'm good with that. 20 years. Very few exceptions, like total (proven through a rigorous process) disability, etc. Otherwise, the answer is no.

Why focus on only one part of the welfare state problem? Makes little sense to me. People on welfare are a drag to society, be they citizens or otherwise.

Well hell has frozen over. I agree with you on both of your last posts

PurpleThrobber said:

The radical leftist Progressives celebrated when Barbara Bush croaked, for god's sake.

The radical leftist Progressive have no decency or shame.

{time for H and CD to whine weigh in}

Weigh in about . . .?

I'm happy to dramatically cut citizen welfare including crony capitalism. Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway gets over $700 million a year in federal tax credits for wind and solar farms. The topic however was Koch"s and the dems open border policy combined with a massive I'll governed welfare state.

dhdawg said:

DJDuck said:

However the Koch’s were Nevertrumpers that wouldn’t support a candidate that supported Trump. David Koch was a Republican Elite that supported unbridled immigration to provide low paid workers for the US.

https://freebeacon.com/issues/left-wing-journalists-celebrate-david-kochs-death-on-twitter/

Boohoo. So sorry the billionaire who spent his entire life buying politicians to enrich himself was disrespected on Twitter.

Libtards, never lacking in class.

Your point however was off my point. I redirected. You seemed bent by that.

But Anarcho-Totalitarianism lives on.

Blu82 said:

dhdawg said:

DJDuck said:

However the Koch’s were Nevertrumpers that wouldn’t support a candidate that supported Trump. David Koch was a Republican Elite that supported unbridled immigration to provide low paid workers for the US.

https://freebeacon.com/issues/left-wing-journalists-celebrate-david-kochs-death-on-twitter/

Boohoo. So sorry the billionaire who spent his entire life buying politicians to enrich himself was disrespected on Twitter.

Libtards, never lacking in class.

Yes, now imagine when they are in charge of your healthcare.

oregonblitzkrieg said:

creepycoug said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

Ts & Ps to his family, but looking at this objectively, it's good for the United States that he's gone.

Hardly. He and his family are good business people. Good business people create value. The Kochs created value. They took a public company private in a deal I worked on. That company had great assets and a historical brand and did nothing but lose money and was destined for the scrap heap. The Kochs bought it, admittedly on the cheap, and made it profitable and viable. Most people at the company were able to keep on working.

I'm struggling to see why the US is better off.

The Kochs are big money corrupters in politics, like Soros. They support open borders and pay off politicians to support that shit too. So they can screw off. Open borders doesn't add value to America, it makes America a less successful, more divisive place and is a recipe for revolution.

I hold on to hope that you will one day abandon that monolithic and misguided point of view.

Every single group, team or institutional is made better by competition. New blood, thin the herd, all that. It's for the better. If there's no work they're not coming here. Not in unreasonable amounts anyway.

Blu82 said:

dhdawg said:

DJDuck said:

However the Koch’s were Nevertrumpers that wouldn’t support a candidate that supported Trump. David Koch was a Republican Elite that supported unbridled immigration to provide low paid workers for the US.

https://freebeacon.com/issues/left-wing-journalists-celebrate-david-kochs-death-on-twitter/

Boohoo. So sorry the billionaire who spent his entire life buying politicians to enrich himself was disrespected on Twitter.

Libtards, never lacking in class.

Oh yeah, and the tug is full of right wingers displaying class...holy Christ.