Tl;DR piece on Joe Rogan from The Atlantic

GrundleStiltzkin said:

YellowSnow said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

I felt like I learned less about Rogan than I did about the worldview of self-loathing males.

I kind of have a love-hate attitude towards Joe. On the one hand, I think he's a UFC, meathead, douche canoe. But then he gets a lot a great guests on his pod and I like his style of hosting.

I had that preconception too and then started listening to selected pods recently. It's good shit.

That writer's handwringing over Joe was beta as fuck.

creepycoug said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

yyyeeeeeesshhh, "I couldn't get an interview or even a comment from this guy so I tried to live like him" this is some vox level reporting.

I think this tells you most of what you need to know about the author.

[The bedrock issue, though, is Rogan’s courting of a middle-bro audience that the cultural elite hold in particular contempt—guys who get barbed-wire tattoos and fill their fridge with Monster energy drinks and preordered their tickets to see Hobbs & Shaw. Joe loves these guys, and his affection has none of the condescension and ironic distance many people fall back on in order to get comfortable with them. He shares their passions and enthusiasms at a moment when the public dialogue has branded them childish or problematic or a slippery slope to Trumpism. Like many of these men, Joe grumbles a lot about “political correctness.” He knows that he is privileged by virtue of his gender and his skin color, but in his heart he is sick of being reminded about it. Like lots of other white men in America, he is grappling with a growing sense that the term white man has become an epithet. And like lots of other men in America, not just the white ones, he’s reckoning out loud with a fear that the word masculinity has become, by definition, toxic.]

I, too, have contempt for men who get barbed wire tatoos, and energy drinks are fs. Do I need to apologize?

UW_Doog_Bot said:

creepycoug said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

yyyeeeeeesshhh, "I couldn't get an interview or even a comment from this guy so I tried to live like him" this is some vox level reporting.

I think this tells you most of what you need to know about the author.

[The bedrock issue, though, is Rogan’s courting of a middle-bro audience that the cultural elite hold in particular contempt—guys who get barbed-wire tattoos and fill their fridge with Monster energy drinks and preordered their tickets to see Hobbs & Shaw. Joe loves these guys, and his affection has none of the condescension and ironic distance many people fall back on in order to get comfortable with them. He shares their passions and enthusiasms at a moment when the public dialogue has branded them childish or problematic or a slippery slope to Trumpism. Like many of these men, Joe grumbles a lot about “political correctness.” He knows that he is privileged by virtue of his gender and his skin color, but in his heart he is sick of being reminded about it. Like lots of other white men in America, he is grappling with a growing sense that the term white man has become an epithet. And like lots of other men in America, not just the white ones, he’s reckoning out loud with a fear that the word masculinity has become, by definition, toxic.]

I, too, have contempt for men who get barbed wire tatoos, and energy drinks are fs. Do I need to apologize?

It's more the fact that this is the stereotype the author needs to fall back on to justify his feelings about Joe Rogan.

I'd expect he'd use the same stereotype to describe HH were he to visit.