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Jake Shipley, 3* 2020 DE, Indio (Shadow Hills), CA (OFFERED 4/16/19)

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  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    animate said:

    How about development?

    Croots know what schools are pushing out draft picks.

    Over the very recent recruiting cycles are we hearing this consistently from our targets ... and from industry people.

    It's paying off because croots know that a uw offer really means and represents something.


    You do realize Oregon is set up to have a big NFL draft class, right?

    As much as you shit on player development at Oregon, two players on the edge were just drafted into the NFL. Also, if you didn’t see big leaps in development by Carlberg, Baker and Faoliu, we just aren’t going to agree on the topic.

    Big Joe can develop and has a history of it.
    What do you mean by big? Be specific. How many 1st round picks? 2nd round?

    We've been hearing about Oregon's NFL draft prospects for years but they haven't had a 1st or second round draft pick since 2016.

    When they went 0-fer in 2017 there were some very specific predictions made by a certain Duck fan regarding Royce Freeman and Darren Carrington. Those didn't turn out too well.
    Royce was drafted and Darren was a graduate transfer to Utah and a character risk after being kicked out.

    I don’t know of any Duck fans thinking the last three classes had any sort of NFL talent.
    I was told Jalen Jelks was going to be a 1st rounder.
    Not by me...had he gotten a 1st round grade he would’ve gone.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,506
    "One scout on hand said to me that UW "dodged a bullet" as far as Shipley is concerned. This scout felt he was probably topped out physically and his frame wasn't what you're looking for in an edge player. Honestly, I liked Shipley and thought he'd be a solid pickup, but for people who really dive into this stuff, the feeling is that Shipley isn't as much of a miss as some might think. Take it for what it's worth."
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    "One scout on hand said to me that UW "dodged a bullet" as far as Shipley is concerned. This scout felt he was probably topped out physically and his frame wasn't what you're looking for in an edge player. Honestly, I liked Shipley and thought he'd be a solid pickup, but for people who really dive into this stuff, the feeling is that Shipley isn't as much of a miss as some might think. Take it for what it's worth."


    I am curious how Oregon sees him frame wise.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    "One scout on hand said to me that UW "dodged a bullet" as far as Shipley is concerned. This scout felt he was probably topped out physically and his frame wasn't what you're looking for in an edge player. Honestly, I liked Shipley and thought he'd be a solid pickup, but for people who really dive into this stuff, the feeling is that Shipley isn't as much of a miss as some might think. Take it for what it's worth."

    Eklund?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    lawsandl said:

    "One scout on hand said to me that UW "dodged a bullet" as far as Shipley is concerned. This scout felt he was probably topped out physically and his frame wasn't what you're looking for in an edge player. Honestly, I liked Shipley and thought he'd be a solid pickup, but for people who really dive into this stuff, the feeling is that Shipley isn't as much of a miss as some might think. Take it for what it's worth."


    I am curious how Oregon sees him frame wise.

  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    animate said:

    How about development?

    Croots know what schools are pushing out draft picks.

    Over the very recent recruiting cycles are we hearing this consistently from our targets ... and from industry people.

    It's paying off because croots know that a uw offer really means and represents something.


    You do realize Oregon is set up to have a big NFL draft class, right?

    As much as you shit on player development at Oregon, two players on the edge were just drafted into the NFL. Also, if you didn’t see big leaps in development by Carlberg, Baker and Faoliu, we just aren’t going to agree on the topic.

    Big Joe can develop and has a history of it.
    What do you mean by big? Be specific. How many 1st round picks? 2nd round?

    We've been hearing about Oregon's NFL draft prospects for years but they haven't had a 1st or second round draft pick since 2016.

    When they went 0-fer in 2017 there were some very specific predictions made by a certain Duck fan regarding Royce Freeman and Darren Carrington. Those didn't turn out too well.
    Royce was drafted and Darren was a graduate transfer to Utah and a character risk after being kicked out.

    I don’t know of any Duck fans thinking the last three classes had any sort of NFL talent.
    I was told Jalen Jelks was going to be a 1st rounder.
    Not by me...had he gotten a 1st round grade he would’ve gone.
    He was getting first round hype FOR deciding to stay his Senior season by NFL scouts. Then what happened? #OregonDevelopment
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    animate said:

    How about development?

    Croots know what schools are pushing out draft picks.

    Over the very recent recruiting cycles are we hearing this consistently from our targets ... and from industry people.

    It's paying off because croots know that a uw offer really means and represents something.


    You do realize Oregon is set up to have a big NFL draft class, right?

    As much as you shit on player development at Oregon, two players on the edge were just drafted into the NFL. Also, if you didn’t see big leaps in development by Carlberg, Baker and Faoliu, we just aren’t going to agree on the topic.

    Big Joe can develop and has a history of it.
    What do you mean by big? Be specific. How many 1st round picks? 2nd round?

    We've been hearing about Oregon's NFL draft prospects for years but they haven't had a 1st or second round draft pick since 2016.

    When they went 0-fer in 2017 there were some very specific predictions made by a certain Duck fan regarding Royce Freeman and Darren Carrington. Those didn't turn out too well.
    Royce was drafted and Darren was a graduate transfer to Utah and a character risk after being kicked out.

    I don’t know of any Duck fans thinking the last three classes had any sort of NFL talent.
    I was told Jalen Jelks was going to be a 1st rounder.
    Not by me...had he gotten a 1st round grade he would’ve gone.
    https://247sports.com/college/oregon/Article/Oregon-defender-Jalen-Jelks-earning-first-round-projections-for-2019-NFL-Draft-117615849/"

    More damning than the headline, the article says he was projected as a second day pick if he had come out early.

    Oops.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    animate said:

    How about development?

    Croots know what schools are pushing out draft picks.

    Over the very recent recruiting cycles are we hearing this consistently from our targets ... and from industry people.

    It's paying off because croots know that a uw offer really means and represents something.


    You do realize Oregon is set up to have a big NFL draft class, right?

    As much as you shit on player development at Oregon, two players on the edge were just drafted into the NFL. Also, if you didn’t see big leaps in development by Carlberg, Baker and Faoliu, we just aren’t going to agree on the topic.

    Big Joe can develop and has a history of it.
    What do you mean by big? Be specific. How many 1st round picks? 2nd round?

    We've been hearing about Oregon's NFL draft prospects for years but they haven't had a 1st or second round draft pick since 2016.

    When they went 0-fer in 2017 there were some very specific predictions made by a certain Duck fan regarding Royce Freeman and Darren Carrington. Those didn't turn out too well.
    Royce was drafted and Darren was a graduate transfer to Utah and a character risk after being kicked out.

    I don’t know of any Duck fans thinking the last three classes had any sort of NFL talent.
    So no specific predictions, bummer.

    We were told Royce was going to be a first round pick not third.
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    animate said:

    How about development?

    Croots know what schools are pushing out draft picks.

    Over the very recent recruiting cycles are we hearing this consistently from our targets ... and from industry people.

    It's paying off because croots know that a uw offer really means and represents something.


    You do realize Oregon is set up to have a big NFL draft class, right?

    As much as you shit on player development at Oregon, two players on the edge were just drafted into the NFL. Also, if you didn’t see big leaps in development by Carlberg, Baker and Faoliu, we just aren’t going to agree on the topic.

    Big Joe can develop and has a history of it.
    What do you mean by big? Be specific. How many 1st round picks? 2nd round?

    We've been hearing about Oregon's NFL draft prospects for years but they haven't had a 1st or second round draft pick since 2016.

    When they went 0-fer in 2017 there were some very specific predictions made by a certain Duck fan regarding Royce Freeman and Darren Carrington. Those didn't turn out too well.
    Royce was drafted and Darren was a graduate transfer to Utah and a character risk after being kicked out.

    I don’t know of any Duck fans thinking the last three classes had any sort of NFL talent.
    I was told Jalen Jelks was going to be a 1st rounder.
    Not by me...had he gotten a 1st round grade he would’ve gone.
    https://247sports.com/college/oregon/Article/Oregon-defender-Jalen-Jelks-earning-first-round-projections-for-2019-NFL-Draft-117615849/"

    More damning than the headline, the article says he was projected as a second day pick if he had come out early.

    Oops.
    I maintained going into his senior year that he was a tweener even in college. The dude can’t put on weight. His testing numbers were something he already knew.

    I also can’t see Throck as better than a 3rd rounder. I see Lemieux as a better prospect.

    There are 8 players making the draft boards and I expect a couple more to play themselves into a draft spot. I also would say 2 of those 8 go undrafted.



  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,679 Founders Club
    I for one think Mario needs as much tim as he wants to get HIS guys in there
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    lawsandl said:

    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    animate said:

    How about development?

    Croots know what schools are pushing out draft picks.

    Over the very recent recruiting cycles are we hearing this consistently from our targets ... and from industry people.

    It's paying off because croots know that a uw offer really means and represents something.


    You do realize Oregon is set up to have a big NFL draft class, right?

    As much as you shit on player development at Oregon, two players on the edge were just drafted into the NFL. Also, if you didn’t see big leaps in development by Carlberg, Baker and Faoliu, we just aren’t going to agree on the topic.

    Big Joe can develop and has a history of it.
    What do you mean by big? Be specific. How many 1st round picks? 2nd round?

    We've been hearing about Oregon's NFL draft prospects for years but they haven't had a 1st or second round draft pick since 2016.

    When they went 0-fer in 2017 there were some very specific predictions made by a certain Duck fan regarding Royce Freeman and Darren Carrington. Those didn't turn out too well.
    Royce was drafted and Darren was a graduate transfer to Utah and a character risk after being kicked out.

    I don’t know of any Duck fans thinking the last three classes had any sort of NFL talent.
    I was told Jalen Jelks was going to be a 1st rounder.
    Not by me...had he gotten a 1st round grade he would’ve gone.
    https://247sports.com/college/oregon/Article/Oregon-defender-Jalen-Jelks-earning-first-round-projections-for-2019-NFL-Draft-117615849/"

    More damning than the headline, the article says he was projected as a second day pick if he had come out early.

    Oops.
    I maintained going into his senior year that he was a tweener even in college. The dude can’t put on weight. His testing numbers were something he already knew.

    I also can’t see Throck as better than a 3rd rounder. I see Lemieux as a better prospect.

    There are 8 players making the draft boards and I expect a couple more to play themselves into a draft spot. I also would say 2 of those 8 go undrafted.



    So 8 + a couple - 2 = 8 ducks drafted?

    Third round pretty conservative on Throckmorton. Lemieux in 2nd round? Herbert 1st? Anyone else?
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    lawsandl said:

    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    animate said:

    How about development?

    Croots know what schools are pushing out draft picks.

    Over the very recent recruiting cycles are we hearing this consistently from our targets ... and from industry people.

    It's paying off because croots know that a uw offer really means and represents something.


    You do realize Oregon is set up to have a big NFL draft class, right?

    As much as you shit on player development at Oregon, two players on the edge were just drafted into the NFL. Also, if you didn’t see big leaps in development by Carlberg, Baker and Faoliu, we just aren’t going to agree on the topic.

    Big Joe can develop and has a history of it.
    What do you mean by big? Be specific. How many 1st round picks? 2nd round?

    We've been hearing about Oregon's NFL draft prospects for years but they haven't had a 1st or second round draft pick since 2016.

    When they went 0-fer in 2017 there were some very specific predictions made by a certain Duck fan regarding Royce Freeman and Darren Carrington. Those didn't turn out too well.
    Royce was drafted and Darren was a graduate transfer to Utah and a character risk after being kicked out.

    I don’t know of any Duck fans thinking the last three classes had any sort of NFL talent.
    I was told Jalen Jelks was going to be a 1st rounder.
    Not by me...had he gotten a 1st round grade he would’ve gone.
    https://247sports.com/college/oregon/Article/Oregon-defender-Jalen-Jelks-earning-first-round-projections-for-2019-NFL-Draft-117615849/"

    More damning than the headline, the article says he was projected as a second day pick if he had come out early.

    Oops.
    I maintained going into his senior year that he was a tweener even in college. The dude can’t put on weight. His testing numbers were something he already knew.

    I also can’t see Throck as better than a 3rd rounder. I see Lemieux as a better prospect.

    There are 8 players making the draft boards and I expect a couple more to play themselves into a draft spot. I also would say 2 of those 8 go undrafted.



    So 8 + a couple - 2 = 8 ducks drafted?

    Third round pretty conservative on Throckmorton. Lemieux in 2nd round? Herbert 1st? Anyone else?
    No, I have no specifics on anyone. Just that is will be a good NFL class.
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    chuck said:

    lawsandl said:

    whuggy said:

    lawsandl said:

    A depth chart is pretty easy to figure out. There is definitely early playing time available in 2020.

    Quality recruits don't worry about depth charts.
    You have to be kidding. Outside of the program’s prestige and location, it’s the biggest draw for a program.
    Right. I think that's why the true blue blood programs have so much trouble recruiting...they have too much 4 and 5* talent on their rosters.

    Oh wait...
    Outside of PROGRAM PRESTIGE...

    Also, If Alabama and Clemson are fighting for a recruit in say Southern Florida, position need will be a big factor.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,152
    Let the judgement of 17 year olds by grown ass adults continue

    This forum seriously needs to be behind a paywall.
  • rustysavage
    rustysavage Member Posts: 942
    dnc said:


    The hell is that guy?
  • Ice_Holmvik
    Ice_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912

    Broflock

    Chincredibly under appreciated post.
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    "One scout on hand said to me that UW "dodged a bullet" as far as Shipley is concerned. This scout felt he was probably topped out physically and his frame wasn't what you're looking for in an edge player. Honestly, I liked Shipley and thought he'd be a solid pickup, but for people who really dive into this stuff, the feeling is that Shipley isn't as much of a miss as some might think. Take it for what it's worth."

    Glad to see this thread bump. The kid’s frame is definitely not topped out. I like this kid’s attitude.
  • rustysavage
    rustysavage Member Posts: 942

    dnc said:


    The hell is that guy?
    Some kid probably smashing your daughter
    No kids. I'm sure he could make do with your son though.
  • GaryFromTeenMom
    GaryFromTeenMom Member Posts: 1,370
    He is definitely a power top. The hoop earring gave it away.
  • bigcc
    bigcc Member Posts: 900
    edited August 2019
    dnc said:


    Very strong gta 5 yoga instructor vibes
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    dtd said:

    Why the fuck are there 11 pages on this JAG?

    He is not jag, he pretty decent player that has commitable offer from uw
  • Penace
    Penace Member Posts: 496
    This guy fucking sucks