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Jake Shipley, 3* 2020 DE, Indio (Shadow Hills), CA (OFFERED 4/16/19)

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  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    animate said:

    How about development?

    Croots know what schools are pushing out draft picks.

    Over the very recent recruiting cycles are we hearing this consistently from our targets ... and from industry people.

    It's paying off because croots know that a uw offer really means and represents something.


    You do realize Oregon is set up to have a big NFL draft class, right?

    As much as you shit on player development at Oregon, two players on the edge were just drafted into the NFL. Also, if you didn’t see big leaps in development by Carlberg, Baker and Faoliu, we just aren’t going to agree on the topic.

    Big Joe can develop and has a history of it.
    What do you mean by big? Be specific. How many 1st round picks? 2nd round?

    We've been hearing about Oregon's NFL draft prospects for years but they haven't had a 1st or second round draft pick since 2016.

    When they went 0-fer in 2017 there were some very specific predictions made by a certain Duck fan regarding Royce Freeman and Darren Carrington. Those didn't turn out too well.
    Royce was drafted and Darren was a graduate transfer to Utah and a character risk after being kicked out.

    I don’t know of any Duck fans thinking the last three classes had any sort of NFL talent.
    I was told Jalen Jelks was going to be a 1st rounder.
    Not by me...had he gotten a 1st round grade he would’ve gone.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,576
    "One scout on hand said to me that UW "dodged a bullet" as far as Shipley is concerned. This scout felt he was probably topped out physically and his frame wasn't what you're looking for in an edge player. Honestly, I liked Shipley and thought he'd be a solid pickup, but for people who really dive into this stuff, the feeling is that Shipley isn't as much of a miss as some might think. Take it for what it's worth."
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    "One scout on hand said to me that UW "dodged a bullet" as far as Shipley is concerned. This scout felt he was probably topped out physically and his frame wasn't what you're looking for in an edge player. Honestly, I liked Shipley and thought he'd be a solid pickup, but for people who really dive into this stuff, the feeling is that Shipley isn't as much of a miss as some might think. Take it for what it's worth."


    I am curious how Oregon sees him frame wise.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    "One scout on hand said to me that UW "dodged a bullet" as far as Shipley is concerned. This scout felt he was probably topped out physically and his frame wasn't what you're looking for in an edge player. Honestly, I liked Shipley and thought he'd be a solid pickup, but for people who really dive into this stuff, the feeling is that Shipley isn't as much of a miss as some might think. Take it for what it's worth."

    Eklund?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    lawsandl said:

    "One scout on hand said to me that UW "dodged a bullet" as far as Shipley is concerned. This scout felt he was probably topped out physically and his frame wasn't what you're looking for in an edge player. Honestly, I liked Shipley and thought he'd be a solid pickup, but for people who really dive into this stuff, the feeling is that Shipley isn't as much of a miss as some might think. Take it for what it's worth."


    I am curious how Oregon sees him frame wise.

  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    animate said:

    How about development?

    Croots know what schools are pushing out draft picks.

    Over the very recent recruiting cycles are we hearing this consistently from our targets ... and from industry people.

    It's paying off because croots know that a uw offer really means and represents something.


    You do realize Oregon is set up to have a big NFL draft class, right?

    As much as you shit on player development at Oregon, two players on the edge were just drafted into the NFL. Also, if you didn’t see big leaps in development by Carlberg, Baker and Faoliu, we just aren’t going to agree on the topic.

    Big Joe can develop and has a history of it.
    What do you mean by big? Be specific. How many 1st round picks? 2nd round?

    We've been hearing about Oregon's NFL draft prospects for years but they haven't had a 1st or second round draft pick since 2016.

    When they went 0-fer in 2017 there were some very specific predictions made by a certain Duck fan regarding Royce Freeman and Darren Carrington. Those didn't turn out too well.
    Royce was drafted and Darren was a graduate transfer to Utah and a character risk after being kicked out.

    I don’t know of any Duck fans thinking the last three classes had any sort of NFL talent.
    I was told Jalen Jelks was going to be a 1st rounder.
    Not by me...had he gotten a 1st round grade he would’ve gone.
    He was getting first round hype FOR deciding to stay his Senior season by NFL scouts. Then what happened? #OregonDevelopment
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    animate said:

    How about development?

    Croots know what schools are pushing out draft picks.

    Over the very recent recruiting cycles are we hearing this consistently from our targets ... and from industry people.

    It's paying off because croots know that a uw offer really means and represents something.


    You do realize Oregon is set up to have a big NFL draft class, right?

    As much as you shit on player development at Oregon, two players on the edge were just drafted into the NFL. Also, if you didn’t see big leaps in development by Carlberg, Baker and Faoliu, we just aren’t going to agree on the topic.

    Big Joe can develop and has a history of it.
    What do you mean by big? Be specific. How many 1st round picks? 2nd round?

    We've been hearing about Oregon's NFL draft prospects for years but they haven't had a 1st or second round draft pick since 2016.

    When they went 0-fer in 2017 there were some very specific predictions made by a certain Duck fan regarding Royce Freeman and Darren Carrington. Those didn't turn out too well.
    Royce was drafted and Darren was a graduate transfer to Utah and a character risk after being kicked out.

    I don’t know of any Duck fans thinking the last three classes had any sort of NFL talent.
    I was told Jalen Jelks was going to be a 1st rounder.
    Not by me...had he gotten a 1st round grade he would’ve gone.
    https://247sports.com/college/oregon/Article/Oregon-defender-Jalen-Jelks-earning-first-round-projections-for-2019-NFL-Draft-117615849/"

    More damning than the headline, the article says he was projected as a second day pick if he had come out early.

    Oops.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    animate said:

    How about development?

    Croots know what schools are pushing out draft picks.

    Over the very recent recruiting cycles are we hearing this consistently from our targets ... and from industry people.

    It's paying off because croots know that a uw offer really means and represents something.


    You do realize Oregon is set up to have a big NFL draft class, right?

    As much as you shit on player development at Oregon, two players on the edge were just drafted into the NFL. Also, if you didn’t see big leaps in development by Carlberg, Baker and Faoliu, we just aren’t going to agree on the topic.

    Big Joe can develop and has a history of it.
    What do you mean by big? Be specific. How many 1st round picks? 2nd round?

    We've been hearing about Oregon's NFL draft prospects for years but they haven't had a 1st or second round draft pick since 2016.

    When they went 0-fer in 2017 there were some very specific predictions made by a certain Duck fan regarding Royce Freeman and Darren Carrington. Those didn't turn out too well.
    Royce was drafted and Darren was a graduate transfer to Utah and a character risk after being kicked out.

    I don’t know of any Duck fans thinking the last three classes had any sort of NFL talent.
    So no specific predictions, bummer.

    We were told Royce was going to be a first round pick not third.
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    animate said:

    How about development?

    Croots know what schools are pushing out draft picks.

    Over the very recent recruiting cycles are we hearing this consistently from our targets ... and from industry people.

    It's paying off because croots know that a uw offer really means and represents something.


    You do realize Oregon is set up to have a big NFL draft class, right?

    As much as you shit on player development at Oregon, two players on the edge were just drafted into the NFL. Also, if you didn’t see big leaps in development by Carlberg, Baker and Faoliu, we just aren’t going to agree on the topic.

    Big Joe can develop and has a history of it.
    What do you mean by big? Be specific. How many 1st round picks? 2nd round?

    We've been hearing about Oregon's NFL draft prospects for years but they haven't had a 1st or second round draft pick since 2016.

    When they went 0-fer in 2017 there were some very specific predictions made by a certain Duck fan regarding Royce Freeman and Darren Carrington. Those didn't turn out too well.
    Royce was drafted and Darren was a graduate transfer to Utah and a character risk after being kicked out.

    I don’t know of any Duck fans thinking the last three classes had any sort of NFL talent.
    I was told Jalen Jelks was going to be a 1st rounder.
    Not by me...had he gotten a 1st round grade he would’ve gone.
    https://247sports.com/college/oregon/Article/Oregon-defender-Jalen-Jelks-earning-first-round-projections-for-2019-NFL-Draft-117615849/"

    More damning than the headline, the article says he was projected as a second day pick if he had come out early.

    Oops.
    I maintained going into his senior year that he was a tweener even in college. The dude can’t put on weight. His testing numbers were something he already knew.

    I also can’t see Throck as better than a 3rd rounder. I see Lemieux as a better prospect.

    There are 8 players making the draft boards and I expect a couple more to play themselves into a draft spot. I also would say 2 of those 8 go undrafted.