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to what level of freaking out for us?TTJ said:Hunter is hurt, my dudes.
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Everyone is thinking too much. Every practice from the last week of spring to everything this fall has involved Haener throwing the ball to the defense. Peterman hates turnovers...no way he’s choosing that.RealRhino said:I think at some point soon we are just going to have to admit to ourselves that Eason is not as good as we hoped he would be. Holds the ball too long, doesn’t seem to have a natural feel for the defense. Reminds me of Josh Allen, where if you just put a highlight reel of his 15 best throws they would be better than anyone in the country, but if you put the whole tape on you see the flaws.
But the threat of the deep ball might be enough. Playoff talk is crazy, though. Maybe if Tedford were still “consulting “
He’s just hiding the fact it’s Eason until the games start to remove pressure from Eason and keep Haener involved/happy.
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Member like two days ago when I was bitching about our starting receivers and saying Aaron Fuller is still a JAG and not nearly good enough to be our #1 receiver if we want to beat anybody good...Um yeah so, fuck off. Chico is the only Senior WR I like because he's explosive and tough. The rest are fucking soft JAGs. I can't watch this shit again. Just rip off the band-aid and start Osborne and Nacua on the outside. At least we know those two aren't fucking pussies, will block motherfuckers for the RB's and slot guys, and have the talent and upside to be really good with more experience.
I called Rich Newton becoming the #2 RB at some point this season. That's looking good right now. He and Salvon look the part. Thunder and lightening if you will.
Offensively we just need to run the fuck out of the ball, throw to the tight ends and slot receivers for easy, high percentage completions, and take shots off of play action down the field to the young receivers with fucking speed and talent. I think we might see some more 2-back sets and triple option type stuff. If we can fake the inside hand off to Newton and defenses bite on it and then pitch out to Salvon who is scary on the outside it could be very effective. The only way this could actually be a close QB competition is if a triple option element to the offense is going to be a significant part of the offense and Haener's mobility advantage over Eason is keeping him in the race. Other than that, it's not even close between the two in terms of passing ability.
I told you guys Myles Rice is gonna do something this season. The light has turned on for him and he'll be back next season too.
Latu is a man amongst boys in his class. Member when I said he's gonna grow into a D-lineman at UW that can play all over the line? I compared him to Leonard Williams back then. I'll take it a step further now. Two years from now he's gonna look like JJ Watt. -
I think it's time to admit our starting receivers fucking suck because they're not talented enough to get open against our secondary and most of them are soft. QB's hold onto the ball when nobody is fucking open. It's good news Eason would rather take a sack than throw an interception. If Browning held onto the ball and now Eason is holding onto the ball, it's because of the fucking receivers. Fuller, Baccellia, and Pounds need to take a seat. Ty Jones needs to be used as a situational target in the red zone and on third and long when we just need to throw it up to somebody. Osborne and Nacua need to be the starters on the outside with Bynum mixed in for deep routes. Hunter, Chico, and Lowe in the slot. We can build something off of those guys that could be competitive in a Rose Bowl at the end of the season. But they need experience and confidence and that only comes with significant playing time on Saturdays.RealRhino said:I think at some point soon we are just going to have to admit to ourselves that Eason is not as good as we hoped he would be. Holds the ball too long, doesn’t seem to have a natural feel for the defense. Reminds me of Josh Allen, where if you just put a highlight reel of his 15 best throws they would be better than anyone in the country, but if you put the whole tape on you see the flaws.
But the threat of the deep ball might be enough. Playoff talk is crazy, though. Maybe if Tedford were still “consulting “ -
my evaluation of Fuller, Baccellia, and Pounds is that all of them have pretty good hands (or at least they did, for the most part before camp reports this year) but all of them aren't fast enough, physical enough, or tall enough against good secondaries to make a difference. All 3 of them rely on absolutely perfect passes or a breakdown in coverage. When coverage is good or the throw isn't an absolute bulls eye then our passing game is nullified. For example, the catch by Hunter Bryant in the Rose Bowl was an example of a non-bullseye throw that was good enough coupled with a guy being physical enough to keep his position.Ballz said:
I think it's time to admit our starting receivers fucking suck because they're not talented enough to get open against our secondary and most of them are soft. QB's hold onto the ball when nobody is fucking open. It's good news Eason would rather take a sack than throw an interception. If Browning held onto the ball and now Eason is holding onto the ball, it's because of the fucking receivers. Fuller, Baccellia, and Pounds need to take a seat. Ty Jones needs to be used as a situational target in the red zone and on third and long when we just need to throw it up to somebody. Osborne and Nacua need to be the starters on the outside with Bynum mixed in for deep routes. Hunter, Chico, and Lowe in the slot. We can build something off of those guys that could be competitive in a Rose Bowl at the end of the season. But they need experience and confidence and that only comes with significant playing time on Saturdays.RealRhino said:I think at some point soon we are just going to have to admit to ourselves that Eason is not as good as we hoped he would be. Holds the ball too long, doesn’t seem to have a natural feel for the defense. Reminds me of Josh Allen, where if you just put a highlight reel of his 15 best throws they would be better than anyone in the country, but if you put the whole tape on you see the flaws.
But the threat of the deep ball might be enough. Playoff talk is crazy, though. Maybe if Tedford were still “consulting “
I feel the WR position is very well set up for success going forward, but unfortunately this year may be the year when either the young WRs aren't quite ready for prime time or Pete's loyalty to older guys means we don't quite have the passing game we really need. We'll see. -
Give our receivers some more tim.
Remember, they've suffered under 18+ years of brownsocks.
They've had to:
- play football in a phonebooth
- learned to double back and not stretch field
- watch out for their quarterback running backwards in a squiggly line only to take a 35 yard sack or they are looking for the weak out of bounds pass that they have to protect from being intercepted
In other words "PTSD" - it takes tim to recover. -
I totally agree on the top 15 throws thing. I've thought about that for a while. His highlights from Georgia are incredible. (Remembering Browning's highlights from 16, every spectacular TD was underthrown.) But his stats overall that year were unimpressive. Hopefully Pete can minimize the shit. And if he can perform at the end of the game, then it's a win. Brett Favre did a lot of stupid shit too but when it came to the end of the game, he usually killed it.RealRhino said:I think at some point soon we are just going to have to admit to ourselves that Eason is not as good as we hoped he would be. Holds the ball too long, doesn’t seem to have a natural feel for the defense. Reminds me of Josh Allen, where if you just put a highlight reel of his 15 best throws they would be better than anyone in the country, but if you put the whole tape on you see the flaws.
But the threat of the deep ball might be enough. Playoff talk is crazy, though. Maybe if Tedford were still “consulting “
Totally agree on tedford too. Wish we could get another offensive consultant in. Hell I'd even take Sark in that role. Just someone else to watch film and provide feedback from the booth on the offense. He can even pick his nose from the booth if he helps us win. -
Ballz said:
I think it's time to admit our starting receivers fucking suck because they're not talented enough to get open against our secondary and most of them are soft. QB's hold onto the ball when nobody is fucking open. It's good news Eason would rather take a sack than throw an interception. If Browning held onto the ball and now Eason is holding onto the ball, it's because of the fucking receivers. Fuller, Baccellia, and Pounds need to take a seat. Ty Jones needs to be used as a situational target in the red zone and on third and long when we just need to throw it up to somebody. Osborne and Nacua need to be the starters on the outside with Bynum mixed in for deep routes. Hunter, Chico, and Lowe in the slot. We can build something off of those guys that could be competitive in a Rose Bowl at the end of the season. But they need experience and confidence and that only comes with significant playing time on Saturdays.RealRhino said:I think at some point soon we are just going to have to admit to ourselves that Eason is not as good as we hoped he would be. Holds the ball too long, doesn’t seem to have a natural feel for the defense. Reminds me of Josh Allen, where if you just put a highlight reel of his 15 best throws they would be better than anyone in the country, but if you put the whole tape on you see the flaws.
But the threat of the deep ball might be enough. Playoff talk is crazy, though. Maybe if Tedford were still “consulting “ -
That's a lot of conclusion from zero game action so far.RealRhino said:I think at some point soon we are just going to have to admit to ourselves that Eason is not as good as we hoped he would be. Holds the ball too long, doesn’t seem to have a natural feel for the defense. Reminds me of Josh Allen, where if you just put a highlight reel of his 15 best throws they would be better than anyone in the country, but if you put the whole tape on you see the flaws.
But the threat of the deep ball might be enough. Playoff talk is crazy, though. Maybe if Tedford were still “consulting “ -
2001400ex said:
I totally agree on the top 15 throws thing. I've thought about that for a while. His highlights from Georgia are incredible. (Remembering Browning's highlights from 16, every spectacular TD was underthrown.) But his stats overall that year were unimpressive. Hopefully Pete can minimize the shit. And if he can perform at the end of the game, then it's a win. Brett Favre did a lot of stupid shit too but when it came to the end of the game, he usually killed it.RealRhino said:I think at some point soon we are just going to have to admit to ourselves that Eason is not as good as we hoped he would be. Holds the ball too long, doesn’t seem to have a natural feel for the defense. Reminds me of Josh Allen, where if you just put a highlight reel of his 15 best throws they would be better than anyone in the country, but if you put the whole tape on you see the flaws.
But the threat of the deep ball might be enough. Playoff talk is crazy, though. Maybe if Tedford were still “consulting “
Totally agree on tedford too. Wish we could get another offensive consultant in. Hell I'd even take Sark in that role. Just someone else to watch film and provide feedback from the booth on the offense. He can even pick his nose from the booth if he helps us win.
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Shit man the season really is already over for y'all
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At least we don't have to start a true Freshman at QB...Pitchfork51 said:Shit man the season really is already over for y'all
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Not everybody hated NewtonFirePete said:@Dennis_DeYoung and @CokeGreaterThanPepsi hated newton. Now I think he will be all conference
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If Browning can do it anyone canBallz said:
At least we don't have to start a true Freshman at QB...Pitchfork51 said:Shit man the season really is already over for y'all
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Nagta was a little gimpy after a big hit seemed fineDawgWagonDan said:Hunter was suited up but on sideline; looked to be fine.
Eason looked solid and will be the starter. Haener threw some nice balls too but also threw a couple terrible balls. He's a turnover waiting to happen. Sirmon to Chin was the combo of the day....
Puka looked explosive and is going to be a playmaker.
The overall size increase of the OL & DL is apparent. Some serious girthy mfers!
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This sounds like I’m making excuses but Eason holds the ball because the majority of the time nothing is there. The WRs can’t get any seperation against our DBs because he’s playing with the majority of the time Fuller, Pounds, and the Oprea Singer. Dom, Kyler, Keith, and Elijah took their souls yesterday lol.
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DL depth is becoming a bigger concern with the Clark injury coupled with the dismissal of Mosiah. I think Tui and Bandes will have to play this year.
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If you’re referring to LIPO suction for over weight women, then yes, greatest things ever.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Just when I was starting to like you, you go and say something dumb. LIPO is one of the greatest things ever!dirtysouwfdawg said:
Too early...RealRhino said:I think at some point soon we are just going to have to admit to ourselves that Eason is not as good as we hoped he would be. Holds the ball too long, doesn’t seem to have a natural feel for the defense. Reminds me of Josh Allen, where if you just put a highlight reel of his 15 best throws they would be better than anyone in the country, but if you put the whole tape on you see the flaws.
But the threat of the deep ball might be enough. Playoff talk is crazy, though. Maybe if Tedford were still “consulting “
I hate LIPO, it’s one of those cliche terms that makes me want to cut people.
But LIPO.
Can I buy your love with a Costco size tub of nacho cheese? -
I take back what I said and love you now more than ever.dirtysouwfdawg said:
If you’re referring to LIPO suction for over weight women, then yes, greatest things ever.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Just when I was starting to like you, you go and say something dumb. LIPO is one of the greatest things ever!dirtysouwfdawg said:
Too early...RealRhino said:I think at some point soon we are just going to have to admit to ourselves that Eason is not as good as we hoped he would be. Holds the ball too long, doesn’t seem to have a natural feel for the defense. Reminds me of Josh Allen, where if you just put a highlight reel of his 15 best throws they would be better than anyone in the country, but if you put the whole tape on you see the flaws.
But the threat of the deep ball might be enough. Playoff talk is crazy, though. Maybe if Tedford were still “consulting “
I hate LIPO, it’s one of those cliche terms that makes me want to cut people.
But LIPO.
Can I buy your love with a Costco size tub of nacho cheese? -
Looked exactly like that at spring game. DB's (didn't matter who it was of top 10) had no concern wr they were lined up against on other side could get open.backthepack said:This sounds like I’m making excuses but Eason holds the ball because the majority of the time nothing is there. The WRs can’t get any seperation against our DBs because he’s playing with the majority of the time Fuller, Pounds, and the Oprea Singer. Dom, Kyler, Keith, and Elijah took their souls yesterday lol.
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RPO's out of a two back set with a zone read + swing behind is the closest you'll see to a triple option. Or go 11 personnel with Chico in the slot in trips running a bubble along with the inside zone read. Those are essentially triple option plays but utilizing space and minimizing hits on the QB.Ballz said:Member like two days ago when I was bitching about our starting receivers and saying Aaron Fuller is still a JAG and not nearly good enough to be our #1 receiver if we want to beat anybody good...Um yeah so, fuck off. Chico is the only Senior WR I like because he's explosive and tough. The rest are fucking soft JAGs. I can't watch this shit again. Just rip off the band-aid and start Osborne and Nacua on the outside. At least we know those two aren't fucking pussies, will block motherfuckers for the RB's and slot guys, and have the talent and upside to be really good with more experience.
I called Rich Newton becoming the #2 RB at some point this season. That's looking good right now. He and Salvon look the part. Thunder and lightening if you will.
Offensively we just need to run the fuck out of the ball, throw to the tight ends and slot receivers for easy, high percentage completions, and take shots off of play action down the field to the young receivers with fucking speed and talent. I think we might see some more 2-back sets and triple option type stuff. If we can fake the inside hand off to Newton and defenses bite on it and then pitch out to Salvon who is scary on the outside it could be very effective. The only way this could actually be a close QB competition is if a triple option element to the offense is going to be a significant part of the offense and Haener's mobility advantage over Eason is keeping him in the race. Other than that, it's not even close between the two in terms of passing ability.
I told you guys Myles Rice is gonna do something this season. The light has turned on for him and he'll be back next season too.
Latu is a man amongst boys in his class. Member when I said he's gonna grow into a D-lineman at UW that can play all over the line? I compared him to Leonard Williams back then. I'll take it a step further now. Two years from now he's gonna look like JJ Watt.
We did a lot of that stuff last year but with Fuller and Baccellia as the slot guy. Chico, Trey Lowe, and even Salvon are all way better options for that. Get those guys the ball in space with a chance to make a guy miss.
RPO's actually make a ton of sense numbers wise. It will get to the point, especially in the NFL, where every run play is an RPO; there's really no reason not to. EXCEPT, in college football when you have an absolute horse like Myles Gaskin. If your guy is that good you get him the ball even when the numbers dictate you pass, especially when your quarterback is Jake Browning.
My guess is a lot of the time (Rose Bowl is a great example,) the playcall was to get Gaskin the ball, but the play was built as an RPO because, again, hypothetically no downside. Instead of letting MMFG do his thing, Browning was over-eager to pull it out and throw the bubble/quick hitch/whatever because the numbers dictated it or he's just a hero-ball douchebag.
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FUCKING THIS. RPOs RPOs RPOs. Eason will be able to hit them consistently.ExtraChrisB said:
RPO's out of a two back set with a zone read + swing behind is the closest you'll see to a triple option. Or go 11 personnel with Chico in the slot in trips running a bubble along with the inside zone read. Those are essentially triple option plays but utilizing space and minimizing hits on the QB.Ballz said:Member like two days ago when I was bitching about our starting receivers and saying Aaron Fuller is still a JAG and not nearly good enough to be our #1 receiver if we want to beat anybody good...Um yeah so, fuck off. Chico is the only Senior WR I like because he's explosive and tough. The rest are fucking soft JAGs. I can't watch this shit again. Just rip off the band-aid and start Osborne and Nacua on the outside. At least we know those two aren't fucking pussies, will block motherfuckers for the RB's and slot guys, and have the talent and upside to be really good with more experience.
I called Rich Newton becoming the #2 RB at some point this season. That's looking good right now. He and Salvon look the part. Thunder and lightening if you will.
Offensively we just need to run the fuck out of the ball, throw to the tight ends and slot receivers for easy, high percentage completions, and take shots off of play action down the field to the young receivers with fucking speed and talent. I think we might see some more 2-back sets and triple option type stuff. If we can fake the inside hand off to Newton and defenses bite on it and then pitch out to Salvon who is scary on the outside it could be very effective. The only way this could actually be a close QB competition is if a triple option element to the offense is going to be a significant part of the offense and Haener's mobility advantage over Eason is keeping him in the race. Other than that, it's not even close between the two in terms of passing ability.
I told you guys Myles Rice is gonna do something this season. The light has turned on for him and he'll be back next season too.
Latu is a man amongst boys in his class. Member when I said he's gonna grow into a D-lineman at UW that can play all over the line? I compared him to Leonard Williams back then. I'll take it a step further now. Two years from now he's gonna look like JJ Watt.
We did a lot of that stuff last year but with Fuller and Baccellia as the slot guy. Chico, Trey Lowe, and even Salvon are all way better options for that. Get those guys the ball in space with a chance to make a guy miss.
RPO's actually make a ton of sense numbers wise. It will get to the point, especially in the NFL, where every run play is an RPO; there's really no reason not to. EXCEPT, in college football when you have an absolute horse like Myles Gaskin. If your guy is that good you get him the ball even when the numbers dictate you pass, especially when your quarterback is Jake Browning.
My guess is a lot of the time (Rose Bowl is a great example,) the playcall was to get Gaskin the ball, but the play was built as an RPO because, again, hypothetically no downside. Instead of letting MMFG do his thing, Browning was over-eager to pull it out and throw the bubble/quick hitch/whatever because the numbers dictated it or he's just a hero-ball douchebag.
We should have better personnel to execute the same concepts they were using last year, and results will follow.
It fucks with the backers so much it’s easy money. -
Literally everybody was on those WR and Latu trains.Ballz said:Member like two days ago when I was bitching about our starting receivers and saying Aaron Fuller is still a JAG and not nearly good enough to be our #1 receiver if we want to beat anybody good...Um yeah so, fuck off. Chico is the only Senior WR I like because he's explosive and tough. The rest are fucking soft JAGs. I can't watch this shit again. Just rip off the band-aid and start Osborne and Nacua on the outside. At least we know those two aren't fucking pussies, will block motherfuckers for the RB's and slot guys, and have the talent and upside to be really good with more experience.
I called Rich Newton becoming the #2 RB at some point this season. That's looking good right now. He and Salvon look the part. Thunder and lightening if you will.
Offensively we just need to run the fuck out of the ball, throw to the tight ends and slot receivers for easy, high percentage completions, and take shots off of play action down the field to the young receivers with fucking speed and talent. I think we might see some more 2-back sets and triple option type stuff. If we can fake the inside hand off to Newton and defenses bite on it and then pitch out to Salvon who is scary on the outside it could be very effective. The only way this could actually be a close QB competition is if a triple option element to the offense is going to be a significant part of the offense and Haener's mobility advantage over Eason is keeping him in the race. Other than that, it's not even close between the two in terms of passing ability.
I told you guys Myles Rice is gonna do something this season. The light has turned on for him and he'll be back next season too.
Latu is a man amongst boys in his class. Member when I said he's gonna grow into a D-lineman at UW that can play all over the line? I compared him to Leonard Williams back then. I'll take it a step further now. Two years from now he's gonna look like JJ Watt.
Dick isn’t gonna be the #2 and now you are backing off your specific Rice predictions. -
Choate weaps.Emoterman said:Newton looks the part physically. Nice burst, as well.
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Our DBs are alphasgodawgst said:
Looked exactly like that at spring game. DB's (didn't matter who it was of top 10) had no concern wr they were lined up against on other side could get open.backthepack said:This sounds like I’m making excuses but Eason holds the ball because the majority of the time nothing is there. The WRs can’t get any seperation against our DBs because he’s playing with the majority of the time Fuller, Pounds, and the Oprea Singer. Dom, Kyler, Keith, and Elijah took their souls yesterday lol.
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Dick will be #2 before the season is over. I didn't back off of anything. I said Rice is going to be in the 2-deeps and play a lot of reps for us and make some plays. Never said he was going to be all-world. He's good and he'll make some plays. He'll be a backup rotational guy but still an upgrade over guys like Psalm and Tevis.FremontTroll said:
Literally everybody was on those WR and Latu trains.Ballz said:Member like two days ago when I was bitching about our starting receivers and saying Aaron Fuller is still a JAG and not nearly good enough to be our #1 receiver if we want to beat anybody good...Um yeah so, fuck off. Chico is the only Senior WR I like because he's explosive and tough. The rest are fucking soft JAGs. I can't watch this shit again. Just rip off the band-aid and start Osborne and Nacua on the outside. At least we know those two aren't fucking pussies, will block motherfuckers for the RB's and slot guys, and have the talent and upside to be really good with more experience.
I called Rich Newton becoming the #2 RB at some point this season. That's looking good right now. He and Salvon look the part. Thunder and lightening if you will.
Offensively we just need to run the fuck out of the ball, throw to the tight ends and slot receivers for easy, high percentage completions, and take shots off of play action down the field to the young receivers with fucking speed and talent. I think we might see some more 2-back sets and triple option type stuff. If we can fake the inside hand off to Newton and defenses bite on it and then pitch out to Salvon who is scary on the outside it could be very effective. The only way this could actually be a close QB competition is if a triple option element to the offense is going to be a significant part of the offense and Haener's mobility advantage over Eason is keeping him in the race. Other than that, it's not even close between the two in terms of passing ability.
I told you guys Myles Rice is gonna do something this season. The light has turned on for him and he'll be back next season too.
Latu is a man amongst boys in his class. Member when I said he's gonna grow into a D-lineman at UW that can play all over the line? I compared him to Leonard Williams back then. I'll take it a step further now. Two years from now he's gonna look like JJ Watt.
Dick isn’t gonna be the #2 and now you are backing off your specific Rice predictions. -
All I want is for Chin to be good just so I can listen to the TSIO pod afterward. Sounds like there's a chance...
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Ballz said:
Dick will be #2 before the season is over. I didn't back off of anything. I said Rice is going to be in the 2-deeps and play a lot of reps for us and make some plays. Never said he was going to be all-world. He's good and he'll make some plays. He'll be a backup rotational guy but still an upgrade over guys like Psalm and Tevis.FremontTroll said:
Literally everybody was on those WR and Latu trains.Ballz said:Member like two days ago when I was bitching about our starting receivers and saying Aaron Fuller is still a JAG and not nearly good enough to be our #1 receiver if we want to beat anybody good...Um yeah so, fuck off. Chico is the only Senior WR I like because he's explosive and tough. The rest are fucking soft JAGs. I can't watch this shit again. Just rip off the band-aid and start Osborne and Nacua on the outside. At least we know those two aren't fucking pussies, will block motherfuckers for the RB's and slot guys, and have the talent and upside to be really good with more experience.
I called Rich Newton becoming the #2 RB at some point this season. That's looking good right now. He and Salvon look the part. Thunder and lightening if you will.
Offensively we just need to run the fuck out of the ball, throw to the tight ends and slot receivers for easy, high percentage completions, and take shots off of play action down the field to the young receivers with fucking speed and talent. I think we might see some more 2-back sets and triple option type stuff. If we can fake the inside hand off to Newton and defenses bite on it and then pitch out to Salvon who is scary on the outside it could be very effective. The only way this could actually be a close QB competition is if a triple option element to the offense is going to be a significant part of the offense and Haener's mobility advantage over Eason is keeping him in the race. Other than that, it's not even close between the two in terms of passing ability.
I told you guys Myles Rice is gonna do something this season. The light has turned on for him and he'll be back next season too.
Latu is a man amongst boys in his class. Member when I said he's gonna grow into a D-lineman at UW that can play all over the line? I compared him to Leonard Williams back then. I'll take it a step further now. Two years from now he's gonna look like JJ Watt.
Dick isn’t gonna be the #2 and now you are backing off your specific Rice predictions. -
