Washington Huskies Fall Camp 2019 Recap Open Thread
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Hop on over to Wardensville and become an 'eer. You can burn couches for no fucking reason.Swaye said:
If Haener becomes the starter I am burning every piece of UW gear I own, taking a huge shit on my diploma, and becoming a fan of loser ass Virginia Tech.Gwad said:
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Bowman is good and a worthy starter at SAM. Neither Manu nor Clark will end up starting.godawgst said:
John Clark, Manu and Bowman are 3 of 6 starters if season started today on D.DoogCourics said:LPT said it feels like Gregory is trying to give Manu every chance to earn the job.
Pro tip Bob: he won’t. Move on.
They also said 3rd team OLB combo Latu and ZTF were the best looking pair of the day. 270 and 260 and both flashing.
The defense rests on why this team isn't NC caliber.
Bob Gregory is having to start a guy who last year who as a junior could not even get in a two man rotation (BBK/Tevis) and spell one of them once conference play started.
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Dude clark is actually serviceable. Manu barely sniffs the fucking fieldGreenRiverGatorz said:
Bowman is good and a worthy starter at SAM. Neither Manu nor Clark will end up starting.godawgst said:
John Clark, Manu and Bowman are 3 of 6 starters if season started today on D.DoogCourics said:LPT said it feels like Gregory is trying to give Manu every chance to earn the job.
Pro tip Bob: he won’t. Move on.
They also said 3rd team OLB combo Latu and ZTF were the best looking pair of the day. 270 and 260 and both flashing.
The defense rests on why this team isn't NC caliber.
Bob Gregory is having to start a guy who last year who as a junior could not even get in a two man rotation (BBK/Tevis) and spell one of them once conference play started.
Glad recruiting doesn't matter. -
Because Petersen has this dumb ass philosophy and belief that his teams are always better off if he can get the absolute most out of his Senior class. This goes back to his time at Boise State where OF COURSE he needed his best players to be his Seniors because he wasn't recruiting elite talent that could come in and beat out his Seniors as Freshman. So no fucking shit his best teams at Boise were teams that were heavily veteran and had great Senior classes. Well this ain't fucking Boise anymore you retard. We don't need to bank on the off chances of Kyler Manu having some surprisingly good Senior season for this defense to be elite. All we need to do is put the elite talent on the fucking field and coach them up. It looks like Jackson Sirmon is next in line in the depth behind Manu right now and I fully expect him to be the starter if not by week 1, by week 2 for sure.dirtysouwfdawg said:
Based on what we’ve seen in the past I don’t know if I buy this one but I’ll play along.StrongArmCobra said:
Love the early camp overreactions every year. Matt James was gonna be our starter at RG too until Jaxson Kirkland took that job later in Fall camp. Clark and Manu are not starters. They are being given first team reps because of Seniority. That's it. Doubtful they perform well enough to remain on the first team by the end of camp. It might not be a bad thing Bowman will still be a starter. He's made some flashy plays here and there in his career. If he can become more consistent at doing that he could be good. We'll see.godawgst said:
John Clark, Manu and Bowman are 3 of 6 starters if season started today on D.DoogCourics said:LPT said it feels like Gregory is trying to give Manu every chance to earn the job.
Pro tip Bob: he won’t. Move on.
They also said 3rd team OLB combo Latu and ZTF were the best looking pair of the day. 270 and 260 and both flashing.
The defense rests on why this team isn't NC caliber.
Bob Gregory is having to start a guy who last year who as a junior could not even get in a two man rotation (BBK/Tevis) and spell one of them once conference play started.
Glad recruiting doesn't matter.
How long does peterman play fuck fuck seniority games before the actual starter gets the majority of the first team reps?
Assuming we’re waiting for their replacements to be identified but IF they already know whose going to surpass them, why wait?
Clark and Manu are starters until they find better replacements. Shouldn’t almost anyone be better...
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Doogman:
- Shoulder pads for the first time.
- Haener and Eason split 1st and 2nd team reps.
- Eason pressed early, was missing his reads, took a sack and threw the ball away, and then it seemed to click and he was lights out.
- Eason and Chico McClatcher combined on the "Play of the Day" streaking down the sidelines on the far side of the field. The ball dropped right into McClatcher's waiting arms and he raced the rest of the way for a pretty 42-yard touchdown pass as Dominique Hampton and Alex Cook looked on helplessly.
- Eason also hit Hunter Bryant down the middle for what likely would have been a touchdown had they not blown the play dead.
- Haener had three interceptions on the day with two coming from Elijah Molden and another coming at the hands of Myles Bryant in the endzone which halted a pretty 80 yard drive.
- Haener and the rest of the quarterbacks struggled a bit with high or off-the-mark snaps from all of the centers, but most of them came from Matteo Mele. Henry Roberts and Mele each got lots of snaps with the second unit while Roberts also got a series with the first team and had a failed snap for a fumble.
- Cam Davis looked smooth running the ball and he he lowered his shoulder on one play to burst through a tackle attempt by two linebackers.
- Richard Newton was probably the most-impressive of the group, bouncing a run outside and getting down the field for what would have been about a 20-yard gain.
- Sean McGrew was bottled up most of the day on his runs, but in the final 11v11 session he made the defense pay for over-pursuing, spinning out of a tackle attempt and reversing his field and running down the field for a big gain before they blew things dead.
- Terrell Bynum and Marquis Spiker each making big grabs with Bynum's coming on a third-down pass from Haener where he was able to haul in a long pass inside the five yard line with a defensive back all over him. Spiker drew a penalty on Trent McDuffie on a long pass and then later stepped up to make a big grab on an in-breaking route.
- Elijah Molden was the best player of the day with two picks -- one from Dylan Morris and one from Haener -- while Bryant added his in the endzone and walk-on Nick Juran added his second interception of camp, making a finger-tip grab on a pass from Morris to Puka Nacua who had the ball go right through his hands.
- MJ Tafisi and Jackson Sirmon each made stellar plays against the run, filling a gap and allowing their teammates to bottle up one of the tailbacks. Tafisi really plays with a forward-lean and Sirmon is just super-instinctive.
- Josh Calvert, Daniel Heimuli and Alphonzo Tuputala also were in and running around. Calvert had some nice coverage in 7v7 and 11v11 work, blanketing some running backs and even re-routing a couple of receivers on plays.
- Bob Gregory said after practice that he can definitely see the athleticism and instincts from the freshman linebackers, but he can also see their frustration at times because they aren't making the plays they were able to make in high school, so it is just motivation for them to figure things out a little bit more, like what the offense is doing on a certain play or out of a certain formation, and then being able to recognize that and be where they're supposed to be.
- In the kicking competition, Peyton Henry hit his only contested attempt, coming from 37 yards while Tim Horn's attempt from the same spot was blocked.
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Caple:
On a roster loaded with young but unproven d-line talent, the Huskies might need more than just veteran leadership from Clark and Bronson. Both have played regularly with the first- or second-team line during camp practices as Malloe cycles personnel through the two interior positions in search of the most effective combinations.
Bronson, Malloe said, provides “energy, for sure. Speed. Technique is getting better. And he plays all of them — he plays from the zero (technique) all the way out to the five. So he can play different positions, and (however) we can use him to hopefully create a mismatch, I think we’re going to try to do that."
Clark, Malloe said, is “really, really sound in his technique. Very smart in terms of the package, so he can line people up, as well as himself. And then very knowledgeable about the game. Even though he hasn’t had live snaps, for all the film-watching he’s been doing, it’s kind of paying off for him.” Clark also feels healthy for the first time since his knee injury. “Last year, I used to have pain daily,” he said. “Every rep, I didn’t know if I’d step wrong or something like that. It’s hard to play when you’re thinking about that. I feel fine now. I feel good.”
Said Malloe: “He’s actually teaching the freshmen in the room. They’re staying late. If he wasn’t interviewing, he would be out there with the freshmen right now trying to run some drills.”
Here are a few more things to know about Washington’s third practice of camp:
- Sunday was a Jacob Eason kind of day. He put forth the highlight of practice with a perfectly thrown 42-yard touchdown pass to Chico McClatcher up the right sideline against the No. 2 defense, and also threw a dart up the seam to tight end Hunter Bryant, who caught it out in front of his body with Elijah Molden in tight coverage. Eason was nearly intercepted later in practice when cornerback Dominique Hampton read one of his throws, jumped the route and just barely missed snagging the ball, but Eason looked sharp otherwise.
- Jake Haener seemed to take a bit of a step back. He threw three interceptions including a pick that Myles Bryant secured in the end zone during Haener’s final series with the No. 1 offense at the end of practice. Molden intercepted him earlier, on the first snap of the final team period, stepping in front of a pass intended for Aaron Fuller.
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Eason got his reads down
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We'll see Calvert on the field this year.DoogCourics said:- Josh Calvert, Daniel Heimuli and Alphonzo Tuputala also were in and running around. Calvert had some nice coverage in 7v7 and 11v11 work, blanketing some running backs and even re-routing a couple of receivers on plays.
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Probably the best gif placement ever. Top 10 for sure. "Loser ass VaTech" coupled with Beamer celebrating a 0 to 0 tie against shit ass Wake Forest is damn near gif placement perfection. Bravo Zulu.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said: -
Criminally underchinned. Most people here are too stoopid to make the subtle connect.GrundleStiltzkin said: -
And to think I was a 13-seed. Thanks @Gladstone!Swaye said:
Probably the best gif placement ever. Top 10 for sure. "Loser ass VaTech" coupled with Beamer celebrating a 0 to 0 tie against shit ass Wake Forest is damn near gif placement perfection. Bravo Zulu.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said: -
coach Clark. Has a nice ring to it.
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Lake:
“I guess in a best case scenario you’d always love to do that (redshirt freshman), but sometimes a freshman is the best player and he’s going to play. Some guys come in here wired the right way way and they’re already physically ready to go. Like a Taylor Rapp, and I’m glad we played Taylor Rapp because we got 3 years out of him.”
“He has picked up where he left off in spring. He knows the defense and knows the calls.”
On if he is surprised on Cam’s quick ascension:
“No. He came to our Redland’s camp and it was a magical 2 hours. Will Harris taught him some things and techniques, and 5 minutes later he’s doing it exactly like it was taught.”
This is incredible. During the recruiting process Lake raves about Cam Williams, and Cam says he has been told he’s coming in to take Rapp’s role. And by the end of spring the coaches can’t stop raving about him, and by the 3rd fall practice he is locked in as a starting safety and has essentially pushed McKinney aside. Looks like Lake only expects 3 years out of him if things go right. -
DoogCourics said:
Lake:
“I guess in a best case scenario you’d always love to do that (redshirt freshman), but sometimes a freshman is the best player and he’s going to play. Some guys come in here wired the right way way and they’re already physically ready to go. Like a Taylor Rapp, and I’m glad we played Taylor Rapp because we got 3 years out of him.”
This is incredible. During the recruiting process Lake raves about Cam Williams, and Cam says he has been told he’s coming in to take Rapp’s role. And by the end of spring the coaches can’t stop raving about him, and by the 3rd fall practice he is locked in as a starting safety and has essentially pushed McKinney aside. Looks like Lake only expects 3 years out of him if things go right.
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CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
And to think I was a 13-seed. Thanks @Gladstone!Swaye said:
Probably the best gif placement ever. Top 10 for sure. "Loser ass VaTech" coupled with Beamer celebrating a 0 to 0 tie against shit ass Wake Forest is damn near gif placement perfection. Bravo Zulu.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
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Yeah, but I bet we'll lead the nation in fewest penalties for too many men on the field.whatshouldicareabout said:
I'm worried about our new defensive scheme if we only play 6 players on D.godawgst said:
John Clark, Manu and Bowman are 3 of 6 starters if season started today on D.DoogCourics said:LPT said it feels like Gregory is trying to give Manu every chance to earn the job.
Pro tip Bob: he won’t. Move on.
They also said 3rd team OLB combo Latu and ZTF were the best looking pair of the day. 270 and 260 and both flashing.
The defense rests on why this team isn't NC caliber.
Bob Gregory is having to start a guy who last year who as a junior could not even get in a two man rotation (BBK/Tevis) and spell one of them once conference play started.
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Its.DoogCourics said:Lake:
“I guess in a best case scenario you’d always love to do that (redshirt freshman), but sometimes a freshman is the best player and he’s going to play. Some guys come in here wired the right way way and they’re already physically ready to go. Like a Taylor Rapp, and I’m glad we played Taylor Rapp because we got 3 years out of him.”
“He has picked up where he left off in spring. He knows the defense and knows the calls.”
On if he is surprised on Cam’s quick ascension:
“No. He came to our Redland’s camp and it was a magical 2 hours. Will Harris taught him some things and techniques, and 5 minutes later he’s doing it exactly like it was taught.”
This is incredible. During the recruiting process Lake raves about Cam Williams, and Cam says he has been told he’s coming in to take Rapp’s role. And by the end of spring the coaches can’t stop raving about him, and by the 3rd fall practice he is locked in as a starting safety and has essentially pushed McKinney aside. Looks like Lake only expects 3 years out of him if things go right.
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alopeciadawg said:
Its.DoogCourics said:Lake:
“I guess in a best case scenario you’d always love to do that (redshirt freshman), but sometimes a freshman is the best player and he’s going to play. Some guys come in here wired the right way way and they’re already physically ready to go. Like a Taylor Rapp, and I’m glad we played Taylor Rapp because we got 3 years out of him.”
“He has picked up where he left off in spring. He knows the defense and knows the calls.”
On if he is surprised on Cam’s quick ascension:
“No. He came to our Redland’s camp and it was a magical 2 hours. Will Harris taught him some things and techniques, and 5 minutes later he’s doing it exactly like it was taught.”
This is incredible. During the recruiting process Lake raves about Cam Williams, and Cam says he has been told he’s coming in to take Rapp’s role. And by the end of spring the coaches can’t stop raving about him, and by the 3rd fall practice he is locked in as a starting safety and has essentially pushed McKinney aside. Looks like Lake only expects 3 years out of him if things go right.
So.
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Send a massagednc said:alopeciadawg said:
Its.DoogCourics said:Lake:
“I guess in a best case scenario you’d always love to do that (redshirt freshman), but sometimes a freshman is the best player and he’s going to play. Some guys come in here wired the right way way and they’re already physically ready to go. Like a Taylor Rapp, and I’m glad we played Taylor Rapp because we got 3 years out of him.”
“He has picked up where he left off in spring. He knows the defense and knows the calls.”
On if he is surprised on Cam’s quick ascension:
“No. He came to our Redland’s camp and it was a magical 2 hours. Will Harris taught him some things and techniques, and 5 minutes later he’s doing it exactly like it was taught.”
This is incredible. During the recruiting process Lake raves about Cam Williams, and Cam says he has been told he’s coming in to take Rapp’s role. And by the end of spring the coaches can’t stop raving about him, and by the 3rd fall practice he is locked in as a starting safety and has essentially pushed McKinney aside. Looks like Lake only expects 3 years out of him if things go right.
So.
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Ooooohhh suck it so hard Oregon.DoogCourics said:Lake:
“I guess in a best case scenario you’d always love to do that (redshirt freshman), but sometimes a freshman is the best player and he’s going to play. Some guys come in here wired the right way way and they’re already physically ready to go. Like a Taylor Rapp, and I’m glad we played Taylor Rapp because we got 3 years out of him.”
“He has picked up where he left off in spring. He knows the defense and knows the calls.”
On if he is surprised on Cam’s quick ascension:
“No. He came to our Redland’s camp and it was a magical 2 hours. Will Harris taught him some things and techniques, and 5 minutes later he’s doing it exactly like it was taught.”
This is incredible. During the recruiting process Lake raves about Cam Williams, and Cam says he has been told he’s coming in to take Rapp’s role. And by the end of spring the coaches can’t stop raving about him, and by the 3rd fall practice he is locked in as a starting safety and has essentially pushed McKinney aside. Looks like Lake only expects 3 years out of him if things go right.
"Williams isn't a big loss because we got Criddell and he's better than him anyways"
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I hate myself for letting this suck me in. Cam Williams replacement is Jamal Hill.StrongArmCobra said:
Ooooohhh suck it so hard Oregon.DoogCourics said:Lake:
“I guess in a best case scenario you’d always love to do that (redshirt freshman), but sometimes a freshman is the best player and he’s going to play. Some guys come in here wired the right way way and they’re already physically ready to go. Like a Taylor Rapp, and I’m glad we played Taylor Rapp because we got 3 years out of him.”
“He has picked up where he left off in spring. He knows the defense and knows the calls.”
On if he is surprised on Cam’s quick ascension:
“No. He came to our Redland’s camp and it was a magical 2 hours. Will Harris taught him some things and techniques, and 5 minutes later he’s doing it exactly like it was taught.”
This is incredible. During the recruiting process Lake raves about Cam Williams, and Cam says he has been told he’s coming in to take Rapp’s role. And by the end of spring the coaches can’t stop raving about him, and by the 3rd fall practice he is locked in as a starting safety and has essentially pushed McKinney aside. Looks like Lake only expects 3 years out of him if things go right.
"Williams isn't a big loss because we got Criddell and he's better than him anyways" -
Who? Oh yeah the kid with the worst high school film for a safety I've ever seen that Georgia didn't want.lawsandl said:
I hate myself for letting this suck me in. Cam Williams replacement is Jamal Hill.StrongArmCobra said:
Ooooohhh suck it so hard Oregon.DoogCourics said:Lake:
“I guess in a best case scenario you’d always love to do that (redshirt freshman), but sometimes a freshman is the best player and he’s going to play. Some guys come in here wired the right way way and they’re already physically ready to go. Like a Taylor Rapp, and I’m glad we played Taylor Rapp because we got 3 years out of him.”
“He has picked up where he left off in spring. He knows the defense and knows the calls.”
On if he is surprised on Cam’s quick ascension:
“No. He came to our Redland’s camp and it was a magical 2 hours. Will Harris taught him some things and techniques, and 5 minutes later he’s doing it exactly like it was taught.”
This is incredible. During the recruiting process Lake raves about Cam Williams, and Cam says he has been told he’s coming in to take Rapp’s role. And by the end of spring the coaches can’t stop raving about him, and by the 3rd fall practice he is locked in as a starting safety and has essentially pushed McKinney aside. Looks like Lake only expects 3 years out of him if things go right.
"Williams isn't a big loss because we got Criddell and he's better than him anyways" -
The girl that used to host Sportscenter.StrongArmCobra said:
Who? Oh yeah the kid with the worst high school film for a safety I've ever seen and Georgia didn't want.lawsandl said:
I hate myself for letting this suck me in. Cam Williams replacement is Jamal Hill.StrongArmCobra said:
Ooooohhh suck it so hard Oregon.DoogCourics said:Lake:
“I guess in a best case scenario you’d always love to do that (redshirt freshman), but sometimes a freshman is the best player and he’s going to play. Some guys come in here wired the right way way and they’re already physically ready to go. Like a Taylor Rapp, and I’m glad we played Taylor Rapp because we got 3 years out of him.”
“He has picked up where he left off in spring. He knows the defense and knows the calls.”
On if he is surprised on Cam’s quick ascension:
“No. He came to our Redland’s camp and it was a magical 2 hours. Will Harris taught him some things and techniques, and 5 minutes later he’s doing it exactly like it was taught.”
This is incredible. During the recruiting process Lake raves about Cam Williams, and Cam says he has been told he’s coming in to take Rapp’s role. And by the end of spring the coaches can’t stop raving about him, and by the 3rd fall practice he is locked in as a starting safety and has essentially pushed McKinney aside. Looks like Lake only expects 3 years out of him if things go right.
"Williams isn't a big loss because we got Criddell and he's better than him anyways" -
I got you.StrongArmCobra said:
Who? Oh yeah the kid with the worst high school film for a safety I've ever seen and Georgia didn't want.lawsandl said:
I hate myself for letting this suck me in. Cam Williams replacement is Jamal Hill.StrongArmCobra said:
Ooooohhh suck it so hard Oregon.DoogCourics said:Lake:
“I guess in a best case scenario you’d always love to do that (redshirt freshman), but sometimes a freshman is the best player and he’s going to play. Some guys come in here wired the right way way and they’re already physically ready to go. Like a Taylor Rapp, and I’m glad we played Taylor Rapp because we got 3 years out of him.”
“He has picked up where he left off in spring. He knows the defense and knows the calls.”
On if he is surprised on Cam’s quick ascension:
“No. He came to our Redland’s camp and it was a magical 2 hours. Will Harris taught him some things and techniques, and 5 minutes later he’s doing it exactly like it was taught.”
This is incredible. During the recruiting process Lake raves about Cam Williams, and Cam says he has been told he’s coming in to take Rapp’s role. And by the end of spring the coaches can’t stop raving about him, and by the 3rd fall practice he is locked in as a starting safety and has essentially pushed McKinney aside. Looks like Lake only expects 3 years out of him if things go right.
"Williams isn't a big loss because we got Criddell and he's better than him anyways"
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We’ll see.StrongArmCobra said:
Who? Oh yeah the kid with the worst high school film for a safety I've ever seen that Georgia didn't want.lawsandl said:
I hate myself for letting this suck me in. Cam Williams replacement is Jamal Hill.StrongArmCobra said:
Ooooohhh suck it so hard Oregon.DoogCourics said:Lake:
“I guess in a best case scenario you’d always love to do that (redshirt freshman), but sometimes a freshman is the best player and he’s going to play. Some guys come in here wired the right way way and they’re already physically ready to go. Like a Taylor Rapp, and I’m glad we played Taylor Rapp because we got 3 years out of him.”
“He has picked up where he left off in spring. He knows the defense and knows the calls.”
On if he is surprised on Cam’s quick ascension:
“No. He came to our Redland’s camp and it was a magical 2 hours. Will Harris taught him some things and techniques, and 5 minutes later he’s doing it exactly like it was taught.”
This is incredible. During the recruiting process Lake raves about Cam Williams, and Cam says he has been told he’s coming in to take Rapp’s role. And by the end of spring the coaches can’t stop raving about him, and by the 3rd fall practice he is locked in as a starting safety and has essentially pushed McKinney aside. Looks like Lake only expects 3 years out of him if things go right.
"Williams isn't a big loss because we got Criddell and he's better than him anyways" -
We sure will. Every year you have a DB your dumbass coaches over hype as a star Freshman who fails to live up to the hype. First it was Graham. Then it was Holland. Now it's Hill. Can Oregon at least put one DB on the 1st team All-Conference team before hyping up their mediocre DB's?lawsandl said:
We’ll see.StrongArmCobra said:
Who? Oh yeah the kid with the worst high school film for a safety I've ever seen that Georgia didn't want.lawsandl said:
I hate myself for letting this suck me in. Cam Williams replacement is Jamal Hill.StrongArmCobra said:
Ooooohhh suck it so hard Oregon.DoogCourics said:Lake:
“I guess in a best case scenario you’d always love to do that (redshirt freshman), but sometimes a freshman is the best player and he’s going to play. Some guys come in here wired the right way way and they’re already physically ready to go. Like a Taylor Rapp, and I’m glad we played Taylor Rapp because we got 3 years out of him.”
“He has picked up where he left off in spring. He knows the defense and knows the calls.”
On if he is surprised on Cam’s quick ascension:
“No. He came to our Redland’s camp and it was a magical 2 hours. Will Harris taught him some things and techniques, and 5 minutes later he’s doing it exactly like it was taught.”
This is incredible. During the recruiting process Lake raves about Cam Williams, and Cam says he has been told he’s coming in to take Rapp’s role. And by the end of spring the coaches can’t stop raving about him, and by the 3rd fall practice he is locked in as a starting safety and has essentially pushed McKinney aside. Looks like Lake only expects 3 years out of him if things go right.
"Williams isn't a big loss because we got Criddell and he's better than him anyways" -
How did Holland underperform? Nobody thought any of those dbs would be 1st team all conference. That being said, the kids that look like they see the field the most in the 2019 class are Hill and Pittman. Does that detract from Williams? No. Does that lessen the blow of losing him? Yes.StrongArmCobra said:
We sure will. Every year you have a DB your dumbass coaches over hype as a star Freshman who fails to live up to the hype. First it was Graham. Then it was Holland. Now it's Hill. Can Oregon at least put one DB on the 1st team All-Conference team before hyping up their mediocre DB's?lawsandl said:
We’ll see.StrongArmCobra said:
Who? Oh yeah the kid with the worst high school film for a safety I've ever seen that Georgia didn't want.lawsandl said:
I hate myself for letting this suck me in. Cam Williams replacement is Jamal Hill.StrongArmCobra said:
Ooooohhh suck it so hard Oregon.DoogCourics said:Lake:
“I guess in a best case scenario you’d always love to do that (redshirt freshman), but sometimes a freshman is the best player and he’s going to play. Some guys come in here wired the right way way and they’re already physically ready to go. Like a Taylor Rapp, and I’m glad we played Taylor Rapp because we got 3 years out of him.”
“He has picked up where he left off in spring. He knows the defense and knows the calls.”
On if he is surprised on Cam’s quick ascension:
“No. He came to our Redland’s camp and it was a magical 2 hours. Will Harris taught him some things and techniques, and 5 minutes later he’s doing it exactly like it was taught.”
This is incredible. During the recruiting process Lake raves about Cam Williams, and Cam says he has been told he’s coming in to take Rapp’s role. And by the end of spring the coaches can’t stop raving about him, and by the 3rd fall practice he is locked in as a starting safety and has essentially pushed McKinney aside. Looks like Lake only expects 3 years out of him if things go right.
"Williams isn't a big loss because we got Criddell and he's better than him anyways"
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I didn't see Holland do much. Taylor Rapp was defensive Freshman of the year. He was deserving of early hype, not any of Oregon's Freshman DB's. And Hill is not an instinctual play maker on the ball like Williams is. He showed none of that in high school. Like I said, your dumb ass coaches have hyped up guys before who turned out to be JAGs. They can't be trusted this time either. There's a difference between being good and being the tallest midget. Jimmy Lake is the best in the business so when a true Freshman starts for us in the secondary we can feel pretty confident he's going to be really good. You can't.lawsandl said:
How did Holland underperform? Nobody thought any of those dbs would be 1st team all conference. That being said, the kids that look like they see the field the most in the 2019 class are Hill and Pittman. Does that detract from Williams? No. Does that lessen the blow of losing him? Yes.StrongArmCobra said:
We sure will. Every year you have a DB your dumbass coaches over hype as a star Freshman who fails to live up to the hype. First it was Graham. Then it was Holland. Now it's Hill. Can Oregon at least put one DB on the 1st team All-Conference team before hyping up their mediocre DB's?lawsandl said:
We’ll see.StrongArmCobra said:
Who? Oh yeah the kid with the worst high school film for a safety I've ever seen that Georgia didn't want.lawsandl said:
I hate myself for letting this suck me in. Cam Williams replacement is Jamal Hill.StrongArmCobra said:
Ooooohhh suck it so hard Oregon.DoogCourics said:Lake:
“I guess in a best case scenario you’d always love to do that (redshirt freshman), but sometimes a freshman is the best player and he’s going to play. Some guys come in here wired the right way way and they’re already physically ready to go. Like a Taylor Rapp, and I’m glad we played Taylor Rapp because we got 3 years out of him.”
“He has picked up where he left off in spring. He knows the defense and knows the calls.”
On if he is surprised on Cam’s quick ascension:
“No. He came to our Redland’s camp and it was a magical 2 hours. Will Harris taught him some things and techniques, and 5 minutes later he’s doing it exactly like it was taught.”
This is incredible. During the recruiting process Lake raves about Cam Williams, and Cam says he has been told he’s coming in to take Rapp’s role. And by the end of spring the coaches can’t stop raving about him, and by the 3rd fall practice he is locked in as a starting safety and has essentially pushed McKinney aside. Looks like Lake only expects 3 years out of him if things go right.
"Williams isn't a big loss because we got Criddell and he's better than him anyways" -
This is my last post on this. I am not here to derail the thread. You’re being obtuse with the Holland comments. He played up to the hype. Also, you can’t determine shit about him from his film. There is all kinds of examples where kids don’t show a trait in high school that’s there when they show up. These are 3 to 7 minute clips hand selected by the recruit. Hill is working himself up the depth chart and making plays. At this point, which is way early, he is not a bust and most likely a future starter and potentially more.StrongArmCobra said:
I didn't see Holland do much. Taylor Rapp was defensive Freshman of the year. He was deserving of early hype, not any of Oregon's Freshman DB's. And Hill is not an instinctual play maker on the ball like Williams is. He showed none of that in high school. Like I said, your dumb ass coaches have hyped up guys before who turned out to be JAGs. They can't be trusted this time either. There's a difference between being good and being the tallest midget. Jimmy Lake is the best in the business so when a true Freshman starts for us in the secondary we can feel pretty confident he's going to be really good. You can't.lawsandl said:
How did Holland underperform? Nobody thought any of those dbs would be 1st team all conference. That being said, the kids that look like they see the field the most in the 2019 class are Hill and Pittman. Does that detract from Williams? No. Does that lessen the blow of losing him? Yes.StrongArmCobra said:
We sure will. Every year you have a DB your dumbass coaches over hype as a star Freshman who fails to live up to the hype. First it was Graham. Then it was Holland. Now it's Hill. Can Oregon at least put one DB on the 1st team All-Conference team before hyping up their mediocre DB's?lawsandl said:
We’ll see.StrongArmCobra said:
Who? Oh yeah the kid with the worst high school film for a safety I've ever seen that Georgia didn't want.lawsandl said:
I hate myself for letting this suck me in. Cam Williams replacement is Jamal Hill.StrongArmCobra said:
Ooooohhh suck it so hard Oregon.DoogCourics said:Lake:
“I guess in a best case scenario you’d always love to do that (redshirt freshman), but sometimes a freshman is the best player and he’s going to play. Some guys come in here wired the right way way and they’re already physically ready to go. Like a Taylor Rapp, and I’m glad we played Taylor Rapp because we got 3 years out of him.”
“He has picked up where he left off in spring. He knows the defense and knows the calls.”
On if he is surprised on Cam’s quick ascension:
“No. He came to our Redland’s camp and it was a magical 2 hours. Will Harris taught him some things and techniques, and 5 minutes later he’s doing it exactly like it was taught.”
This is incredible. During the recruiting process Lake raves about Cam Williams, and Cam says he has been told he’s coming in to take Rapp’s role. And by the end of spring the coaches can’t stop raving about him, and by the 3rd fall practice he is locked in as a starting safety and has essentially pushed McKinney aside. Looks like Lake only expects 3 years out of him if things go right.
"Williams isn't a big loss because we got Criddell and he's better than him anyways"
I am sure Cam is a stud. It’s actually a good sign about evaluation for the ducks. They identified Cam well before anyone.
