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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,444 Founders Club
    Is anyone other than @MikeDamone advocating the elimination of government? I mean we paid for it so its not some mythical visitor from space who paid for all this

    America did so America did build it

    If you don't think about half of what the government spends today is bullshit you should vote for the Squad

    Those were actual investments and the duty of the government to protect the citizens.

    Its a stupid argument which is why Obama came up with it

    A lot of people are rugged individuals who built a lot of great things. Not everyone dreams of being a socialist drone

    Go figure
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,695 Founders Club

    Is anyone other than @MikeDamone advocating the elimination of government? I mean we paid for it so its not some mythical visitor from space who paid for all this

    America did so America did build it

    If you don't think about half of what the government spends today is bullshit you should vote for the Squad

    Those were actual investments and the duty of the government to protect the citizens.

    Its a stupid argument which is why Obama came up with it

    A lot of people are rugged individuals who built a lot of great things. Not everyone dreams of being a socialist drone

    Go figure

    I'm all for BIG gubmint spending that actually increases productivity, gives us cool shit, and makes ALL of us wealthier. But @MikeDamone gets hung up on his precious Constitution and lectures me like I'm some dumbfuck.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    Is anyone other than @MikeDamone advocating the elimination of government? I mean we paid for it so its not some mythical visitor from space who paid for all this

    America did so America did build it

    If you don't think about half of what the government spends today is bullshit you should vote for the Squad

    Those were actual investments and the duty of the government to protect the citizens.

    Its a stupid argument which is why Obama came up with it

    A lot of people are rugged individuals who built a lot of great things. Not everyone dreams of being a socialist drone

    Go figure

    I'm all for BIG gubmint spending that actually increases productivity, gives us cool shit, and makes ALL of us wealthier. But @MikeDamone gets hung up on his precious Constitution and lectures me like I'm some dumbfuck.
    And now most of our spending goes to pay for grandma's hip replacement. I realize that's great for grandma, but what does that do for the General Welfare of the country?
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,695 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    Is anyone other than @MikeDamone advocating the elimination of government? I mean we paid for it so its not some mythical visitor from space who paid for all this

    America did so America did build it

    If you don't think about half of what the government spends today is bullshit you should vote for the Squad

    Those were actual investments and the duty of the government to protect the citizens.

    Its a stupid argument which is why Obama came up with it

    A lot of people are rugged individuals who built a lot of great things. Not everyone dreams of being a socialist drone

    Go figure

    I'm all for BIG gubmint spending that actually increases productivity, gives us cool shit, and makes ALL of us wealthier. But @MikeDamone gets hung up on his precious Constitution and lectures me like I'm some dumbfuck.
    And now most of our spending goes to pay for grandma's hip replacement. I realize that's great for grandma, but what does that do for the General Welfare of the country?
    Fuck @RaceBannon and his mobility scooter!! I ain't paying fo' it no mor.


  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    SFGbob said:

    Is anyone other than @MikeDamone advocating the elimination of government? I mean we paid for it so its not some mythical visitor from space who paid for all this

    America did so America did build it

    If you don't think about half of what the government spends today is bullshit you should vote for the Squad

    Those were actual investments and the duty of the government to protect the citizens.

    Its a stupid argument which is why Obama came up with it

    A lot of people are rugged individuals who built a lot of great things. Not everyone dreams of being a socialist drone

    Go figure

    I'm all for BIG gubmint spending that actually increases productivity, gives us cool shit, and makes ALL of us wealthier. But @MikeDamone gets hung up on his precious Constitution and lectures me like I'm some dumbfuck.
    And now most of our spending goes to pay for grandma's hip replacement. I realize that's great for grandma, but what does that do for the General Welfare of the country?
    Fuck @RaceBannon and his mobility scooter!! I ain't paying fo' it no mor.


    It's funny because it's true. Half of our Federal budget goes to pay for retirement and healthcare.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,695 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Is anyone other than @MikeDamone advocating the elimination of government? I mean we paid for it so its not some mythical visitor from space who paid for all this

    America did so America did build it

    If you don't think about half of what the government spends today is bullshit you should vote for the Squad

    Those were actual investments and the duty of the government to protect the citizens.

    Its a stupid argument which is why Obama came up with it

    A lot of people are rugged individuals who built a lot of great things. Not everyone dreams of being a socialist drone

    Go figure

    I'm all for BIG gubmint spending that actually increases productivity, gives us cool shit, and makes ALL of us wealthier. But @MikeDamone gets hung up on his precious Constitution and lectures me like I'm some dumbfuck.
    And now most of our spending goes to pay for grandma's hip replacement. I realize that's great for grandma, but what does that do for the General Welfare of the country?
    Fuck @RaceBannon and his mobility scooter!! I ain't paying fo' it no mor.


    It's funny because it's true. Half of our Federal budget goes to pay for retirement and healthcare.
    It's the great issue of our Tim- i.e., diverting an ever increasing share of our national wealth to keep olds comfy in retirement. And yet we spend all this energy arguing about shit like abortion that doesn't matter in the big scheme of things.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    Wait until the debt crisis hits, then will have people blaming the evil "rich" for not being willing to pay more of their "fair share."

    This isn't sustainable and nobody wants to talk about it.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,444 Founders Club
    As an old I agree with this

    The problem is that SS was sold as your money being invested wisely by the government for your retirement. It wasn't. The entire health care delivery and insurance system is now fucked up from birth to death and nothing on the horizon looks very promising

    We need a re set because I don't see means testing for benefits being politically possible. Rich people are rich because every penny counts and by God they put that money into SS and they want it back even if they use it to light their cigar.

    White against Black, Boomer against Millennial, right against left. Its all a long con. That's something we boomers knew 50 years ago

    And nothing changed

    Hell were spending SS money to keep youngs high and on the couch doing Oxy watching Jerry Springer. Disability.

    The deck is stacked against you. You need the government to help you. You can't build that. Join the DSA and get your piece of the pie!!

    Stop SS now and stop taking money from the payroll workers and in 40 years maybe we have it fixed. Open up full throated competition in health care

    Teach self reliance. The safety net isn't designed for half the country and millions more from other countries

    Its fucking ludicrous as Mike Tyson might say

    And insane and suicide
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    As an old I agree with this

    The problem is that SS was sold as your money being invested wisely by the government for your retirement. It wasn't. The entire health care delivery and insurance system is now fucked up from birth to death and nothing on the horizon looks very promising

    We need a re set because I don't see means testing for benefits being politically possible. Rich people are rich because every penny counts and by God they put that money into SS and they want it back even if they use it to light their cigar.

    White against Black, Boomer against Millennial, right against left. Its all a long con. That's something we boomers knew 50 years ago

    And nothing changed

    Hell were spending SS money to keep youngs high and on the couch doing Oxy watching Jerry Springer. Disability.

    The deck is stacked against you. You need the government to help you. You can't build that. Join the DSA and get your piece of the pie!!

    Stop SS now and stop taking money from the payroll workers and in 40 years maybe we have it fixed. Open up full throated competition in health care

    Teach self reliance. The safety net isn't designed for half the country and millions more from other countries

    Its fucking ludicrous as Mike Tyson might say

    And insane and suicide

    We're going to get a re-set, but I don't think you're going to like it.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    edited July 2019
    You could take the income cap of Social Security with-holdings and bump the retirement age up a little up and kick the can down the road a little longer with Social Security. Medicare is the big dog and what will eventually bankrupt us.

    What's going to happen is that our interest costs on the debt are going to continue to balloon and we're going to end up having to slash our military.

    Look at England. All their money goes the National Health Service.