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Drama / Crime (Elite 8) - #1 The Godfather Part I vs #2 The Godfather Part II

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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,835 Swaye's Wigwam
    #1 The Godfather Part I
    Tequilla said:

    I is the original and the GOAT ... here's why

    1) The opening sequence around Connie's wedding that lasted in the 20-30 minute range is EASILY the best opening of a movie in history ... compare the opening from GF1 vs GF2 ... it's not even close

    2) "Making an offer that he can't refuse" ... yep, that's pretty much the greatest

    3) Family dynamics and Sonny Corleone ...

    4) The transformation of Michael Corleone

    5) Brando vs DeNiro ... both truly epic performances

    There are parts of both movies that drag a bit ... in I it's the Michael being exiled to Sicily component and in II it's the government hearing part

    I'd pick II over any other movie in this bracket ... but on the whole, when I see I on I stop everything and watch ... when I see II I may stop and watch. I is as close to as perfect of a movie as has ever been made and it has to be considered that the foundation from I makes II what it is.

    Full agree. There are more parts in II that drag for me. If I'm flipping channels and find both movies playing, I'll settle in and watch the first every time.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,372
    #2 The Godfather Part II
    chuck said:

    Tequilla said:

    I is the original and the GOAT ... here's why

    1) The opening sequence around Connie's wedding that lasted in the 20-30 minute range is EASILY the best opening of a movie in history ... compare the opening from GF1 vs GF2 ... it's not even close

    2) "Making an offer that he can't refuse" ... yep, that's pretty much the greatest

    3) Family dynamics and Sonny Corleone ...

    4) The transformation of Michael Corleone

    5) Brando vs DeNiro ... both truly epic performances

    There are parts of both movies that drag a bit ... in I it's the Michael being exiled to Sicily component and in II it's the government hearing part

    I'd pick II over any other movie in this bracket ... but on the whole, when I see I on I stop everything and watch ... when I see II I may stop and watch. I is as close to as perfect of a movie as has ever been made and it has to be considered that the foundation from I makes II what it is.

    Full agree. There are more parts in II that drag for me. If I'm flipping channels and find both movies playing, I'll settle in and watch the first every time.
    I agree, but to add some powder to the idea that I is the GOAT, the Sicily component is money. I fucking loved it. Mike getting back to his roots is what would portend his rise to the head of the family. Plus the girl, plus the set-up for Fabrizio ... you forget he got away until in II when they slide in the scene where Michael has him tracked down all those years later.

    The only part that dragged on for me was the Senate committee hearings ... that got a little tedious, and having Tom act as counsel there was a bit unrealistic. Not horrible, but definitely if I were to omit anything from either I or II it would be the hearings.

    OTOH, II has that whole part set in Cuba, which is fantastic ... of course.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,257
    #1 The Godfather Part I
    For as great as DeNiro was in II ... Brando was that much better in I
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,257
    #1 The Godfather Part I
    dnc said:

    Michael has his own fucking brother swim with the fishes in the Godfather II.

    That was the most gangster move in the whole damn series.

    Doesn't hurt that Fredo was a fucking dreckfest.

    Given Fredo’s actions, who wouldn’t have made him swim with the fishes?
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