If you want to understand why Global Warming is a religion...

HoustonHusky said:

StrongArmCobra said:

HoustonHusky said:

StrongArmCobra said:

HoustonHusky said:

StrongArmCobra said:

HoustonHusky said:

StrongArmCobra said:

PurpleThrobber said:

StrongArmCobra said:

MikeDamone said:

StrongArmCobra said:

MikeDamone said:

I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal people. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow. 7 billion people need to eat.

I’ll never forget the “people are going to starve to death” scare of 1973.

So technology and people won’t adapt? We will just run in place flapping our arms?

Are we at peak oil yet? That would have solved everything.

Let’s assume we? Solve climate change. Whew! Dodged a bullet. You’ll be dead within 81 years. What do you think earth will be like in 1000 years? 10000? 1000000?

We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.

Ax the people in New Orleans who live below sea level, too....because, well, gravity.

Or maybe the folks in Central/Eastern WA who get smoked out every summer because the timber companies are no longer allowed to properly manage the forest - so nature does it the old fashioned way by burning the shit growth.

This shit has gone on eons.

It hasn't been man made for eons and it hasn't changed at such an accelerated rate before minus massive volcanic eruptions or asteroid impacts. That's the major difference. Natural climate change is fine and happen very slowly over millions of years. Man made climate change is not. We have the technology to move on from burning fossil fuels for energy. But there are trillions of dollars at stake that very powerful people are not willing to give up and will do anything to prevent us from moving away from.

I heard the car companies have the technology to make cars run on water but they are keeping it from everybody because Big Oil paid them off.

I think I read it on Wikipedia...

That would be a lot more plausible than denying that more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere causes global warming.

In isolation sure. But in isolation it’s also raises temperatures a meaningless amount in the quantities we are talking about...you realize it’s measured in ppm levels, right? Even the climate modelers understand this which is why they have to add all these crazy amplifying/magnifying phenomenon that they think might maybe occur with increased CO2 levels to get global warming (which why the models have been horrible at predicting temps...)

But you also think converting water into water can somehow power a car so we know thermodynamics is not your thing...you should stick to you big back theories and leave the trophy for giving threads aids around here to HondoFS.

Yeah no, you're wrong and uneducated. One degree of temperature change to the average global temperature is a massive difference in temperature that has big implications. Simply the polar ice caps melting is a huge deal and it doesn't take a big numeric temperature change for that to happen because obviously it's already happening. Those ice caps cool the planet by reflecting more solar radiation back out to space. With less of them, it causes a multiplier effect to the warming.

I didn't say the car runs on water AND emits water. One invention is a car that runs on hydrogen and emits water. Another is a car that runs on water and emits water vapor. Both have already been invented and suppressed by the government. Inventions like this have been erased and ignored on purpose. Again, trillions of dollars at stake.

Where again did I say a degree increase? I said a meaningless amount. And the Arctic ice is shrinking and Antarctic ice is growing...minor details though.

I’m the “uneducated” one, yet you broadcast your intelligence by saying that converting liquid water to water vapor somehow makes more sense than converting water to water...you can’t make this shite up, thermodynamics be damned...

HondoFS has to be smiling that you showed up...

The Antarctic ice is shrinking and breaking apart. How the fuck do you not know this? There are massive cracks forming in it and a chunk twice the size of Rhode island broke off of it two years ago.

You keep saying thermodynamics as if you know what the fuck you're talking about. Are you a scientist? I'm not. The point is the car could run on fucking water instead of gas. It had a water fuel cell. It split the water into pure oxygen and pure hydrogen and used both to power a combustion engine with the hydrogen being the combustible element and the oxygen being an oxidizer to make the internal combustion more powerful and the emission was water vapor. That's all I know. No car manufacturers have tried to replicate it since.

Antarctic ice coverage has been growing since satellites have been around to observe it back in 1979. Hit all-time records in 2014, had a pull-back, and is growing again. Simple, easy to measure fact. You can scream about land ice thickness (which has also been growing there despite HondoFS claims otherwise), but overall coverage for the reflection of solar energy has been growing.

Yes, I am...or at least was before I moved on to other things although I still get dragged back into it every now and again. Even have patents on greet technology. No shite you aren't...what you are claiming on water somehow powering vehicles is the lunatic fantasy of perpetual motion which breaks all kind of thermodynamic realities. I'd try to explain it to you but I'm guessing that would go over like a lead brick...

Or, you could say its on par with a lot of the nutjob claims over the last 50 years on climate...

Jesus Christ it's not fucking growing. I don't know what fake news your reading but it's not growing and it's not fucking hard to find that out:

https://youtu.be/4AagG92VQt0

Again, you're not capable of explaining fucking anything and you're certainly no scientist and never have been if you don't even know that increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere warms the planet. That's basic science 101 shit. Fucking fraud.

StrongArmCobra said:

Dude61 said:

https://twitter.com/iceagereentry/status/1148781441272012800

The current solar minimum is driving the cooling trend that started 8-10,000 years ago. It's the sun that drives climate not humans. If you only know temps post-1880 you have no glacial cycle bearing.

SAC is correct, Stanley Meyer did develop a motor that ran on water from his garden hose, and died from poisoning.

https://youtu.be/GFIlXaABU54

You fucking retard. Changing the composition of the atmosphere changes the climate. Solar radiation COMBINED with the composition of the atmosphere of a planet is what determines the climate of the planet. The suns solar output only changes over thousands and millions of years. Over a short period of time, it is relatively constant. Any significant change to the climate in a matter of a century and half due to burning fossil fuel has nothing to do with the sun.

Yes, you can't find right-wing misinformation fucking anywhere. The republican party is the pro-fossil fuel party with the fossil fuel industry lining their pockets. It's pure corruption at its finest. How dumb can you be?

You can help by walking everywhere. I'll still be in my diesel pick up rolling coal on hipster environmental walkers at every opportunity.

StrongArmCobra said:

Sledog said:

StrongArmCobra said:

Dude61 said:

https://twitter.com/iceagereentry/status/1148781441272012800

The current solar minimum is driving the cooling trend that started 8-10,000 years ago. It's the sun that drives climate not humans. If you only know temps post-1880 you have no glacial cycle bearing.

SAC is correct, Stanley Meyer did develop a motor that ran on water from his garden hose, and died from poisoning.

https://youtu.be/GFIlXaABU54

You fucking retard. Changing the composition of the atmosphere changes the climate. Solar radiation COMBINED with the composition of the atmosphere of a planet is what determines the climate of the planet. The suns solar output only changes over thousands and millions of years. Over a short period of time, it is relatively constant. Any significant change to the climate in a matter of a century and half due to burning fossil fuel has nothing to do with the sun.

Yes, you can't find right-wing misinformation fucking anywhere. The republican party is the pro-fossil fuel party with the fossil fuel industry lining their pockets. It's pure corruption at its finest. How dumb can you be?

You can help by walking everywhere. I'll still be in my diesel pick up rolling coal on hipster environmental walkers at every opportunity.

That's fine. You can be a fucktard. Nobody is coming to take your truck away. Have at it. But when it comes to voting on climate change policies that could make a big difference or voting for presidents, don't be a fucktard. If you have kids, they and their kids have to live on this planet too when your ass is dead and gone so we need to try to stop fucking it up.

My kids drive V8's. God have us oil to use and keeps giving us more. I suggest you hold your breath you produce carbon dioxide and you're killing the planet!

StrongArmCobra said:

Sledog said:

StrongArmCobra said:

Sledog said:

StrongArmCobra said:

Dude61 said:

https://twitter.com/iceagereentry/status/1148781441272012800

The current solar minimum is driving the cooling trend that started 8-10,000 years ago. It's the sun that drives climate not humans. If you only know temps post-1880 you have no glacial cycle bearing.

SAC is correct, Stanley Meyer did develop a motor that ran on water from his garden hose, and died from poisoning.

https://youtu.be/GFIlXaABU54

You fucking retard. Changing the composition of the atmosphere changes the climate. Solar radiation COMBINED with the composition of the atmosphere of a planet is what determines the climate of the planet. The suns solar output only changes over thousands and millions of years. Over a short period of time, it is relatively constant. Any significant change to the climate in a matter of a century and half due to burning fossil fuel has nothing to do with the sun.

Yes, you can't find right-wing misinformation fucking anywhere. The republican party is the pro-fossil fuel party with the fossil fuel industry lining their pockets. It's pure corruption at its finest. How dumb can you be?

You can help by walking everywhere. I'll still be in my diesel pick up rolling coal on hipster environmental walkers at every opportunity.

That's fine. You can be a fucktard. Nobody is coming to take your truck away. Have at it. But when it comes to voting on climate change policies that could make a big difference or voting for presidents, don't be a fucktard. If you have kids, they and their kids have to live on this planet too when your ass is dead and gone so we need to try to stop fucking it up.

My kids drive V8's. God have us oil to use and keeps giving us more. I suggest you hold your breath you produce carbon dioxide and you're killing the planet!

Talking to tards like you is like talking to a brick wall. Yeah buddy, you're a REAL American bad ass because you ignore science and do what you want. Your kids are tards too. I'm sure God also created scientists and people way smarter than you to try to guide humanity in the right direction.

Chicken little all you want. So what are you going to do if there is a volcanic eruption next week that spews more crap into the air than man has since his creation?

What are you going to do put a catalytic converter on a volcano?

It's out of our hands. We do what we can within reason and our air is pretty damn clean as well as our water. Call China and India let me know what they tell you. Right now the USA ain't the problem.

Sea ice is different than Antarctic shelf ice. It's telling you that ice breaking off of Antarctica and floating in the ocean is increasing. The ice breaks off and then melts and so the sea ice cycles up and down, each time with the sea level continuing to steadily rise as the old sea ice melts and is replaced by new sea ice. Like I said, a piece of Antarctica twice the size of Rhode Island broke off back in 2017.

Again, you can't explain shit because you don't know shit. A man who allegedly invented a car that runs on water came running and screaming out of a restaurant saying "they poisoned me!" and then dropped dead soon after. If you don't think that's suspicious of foul play at all something is wrong with you. People that are scam artists who pretend they invented something major don't get mysteriously murdered.

StrongArmCobra said:

MikeDamone said:

StrongArmCobra said:

MikeDamone said:

I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal people. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow. 7 billion people need to eat.

I’ll never forget the “people are going to starve to death” scare of 1973.

So technology and people won’t adapt? We will just run in place flapping our arms?

Are we at peak oil yet? That would have solved everything.

Let’s assume we? Solve climate change. Whew! Dodged a bullet. You’ll be dead within 81 years. What do you think earth will be like in 1000 years? 10000? 1000000?

We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.

Just because whatever the fuck happened in 1973 or Y2K in 2000 or whatever else were bullshit doesn't mean global warming is. The science is simple and easy to understand. Anybody who chooses not to believe the facts doesn't want to believe it because it scares them.

I have family in Houston who live on the water. Let me let you in on a lip

Sledog said:

StrongArmCobra said:

RaceBannon said:

StrongArmCobra said:

PurpleThrobber said:

StrongArmCobra said:

MikeDamone said:

StrongArmCobra said:

MikeDamone said:

I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal people. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow. 7 billion people need to eat.

I’ll never forget the “people are going to starve to death” scare of 1973.

So technology and people won’t adapt? We will just run in place flapping our arms?

Are we at peak oil yet? That would have solved everything.

Let’s assume we? Solve climate change. Whew! Dodged a bullet. You’ll be dead within 81 years. What do you think earth will be like in 1000 years? 10000? 1000000?

We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.

Ax the people in New Orleans who live below sea level, too....because, well, gravity.

Or maybe the folks in Central/Eastern WA who get smoked out every summer because the timber companies are no longer allowed to properly manage the forest - so nature does it the old fashioned way by burning the shit growth.

This shit has gone on eons.

It hasn't been man made for eons and it hasn't changed at such an accelerated rate before minus massive volcanic eruptions or asteroid impacts. That's the major difference. Natural climate change is fine. Man made climate change is not. We have the technology to move on from burning fossil fuels for energy. But there are trillions of dollars at stake that very powerful people are not willing to give up and will do anything to prevent us from moving away from.

We don't have the technology

It doesn't exist

Yes it fucking does. Research Stanley Meyer. He invented a car that runs on water back in the 90's. He died after eating at a restaurant and running out of the restaurant screaming "they poisoned me". Every major invention that threatens the fossil fuel industry is suppressed by the government.

The Clintons poisoned him!

Jeezus.....Stanley Meyer was a fraud. A cheap hustler who was ordered by a judge to repay his investors due to his false claims. His patents have all expired. Anyone can take his ideas and run with them. Now why do you think no one has?

I find it funny that Strongarmcobra is on here telling everyone they are stupid and ignorant and here he is believing some made up bullshit by a two bit hustler.

HoustonHusky said:

2001400ex said:

HoustonHusky said:

StrongArmCobra said:

HoustonHusky said:

StrongArmCobra said:

HoustonHusky said:

StrongArmCobra said:

HoustonHusky said:

StrongArmCobra said:

PurpleThrobber said:

StrongArmCobra said:

MikeDamone said:

StrongArmCobra said:

MikeDamone said:

I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal people. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow. 7 billion people need to eat.

I’ll never forget the “people are going to starve to death” scare of 1973.

So technology and people won’t adapt? We will just run in place flapping our arms?

Are we at peak oil yet? That would have solved everything.

Let’s assume we? Solve climate change. Whew! Dodged a bullet. You’ll be dead within 81 years. What do you think earth will be like in 1000 years? 10000? 1000000?

We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.

Ax the people in New Orleans who live below sea level, too....because, well, gravity.

Or maybe the folks in Central/Eastern WA who get smoked out every summer because the timber companies are no longer allowed to properly manage the forest - so nature does it the old fashioned way by burning the shit growth.

This shit has gone on eons.

It hasn't been man made for eons and it hasn't changed at such an accelerated rate before minus massive volcanic eruptions or asteroid impacts. That's the major difference. Natural climate change is fine and happen very slowly over millions of years. Man made climate change is not. We have the technology to move on from burning fossil fuels for energy. But there are trillions of dollars at stake that very powerful people are not willing to give up and will do anything to prevent us from moving away from.

I heard the car companies have the technology to make cars run on water but they are keeping it from everybody because Big Oil paid them off.

I think I read it on Wikipedia...

That would be a lot more plausible than denying that more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere causes global warming.

In isolation sure. But in isolation it’s also raises temperatures a meaningless amount in the quantities we are talking about...you realize it’s measured in ppm levels, right? Even the climate modelers understand this which is why they have to add all these crazy amplifying/magnifying phenomenon that they think might maybe occur with increased CO2 levels to get global warming (which why the models have been horrible at predicting temps...)

But you also think converting water into water can somehow power a car so we know thermodynamics is not your thing...you should stick to you big back theories and leave the trophy for giving threads aids around here to HondoFS.

Yeah no, you're wrong and uneducated. One degree of temperature change to the average global temperature is a massive difference in temperature that has big implications. Simply the polar ice caps melting is a huge deal and it doesn't take a big numeric temperature change for that to happen because obviously it's already happening. Those ice caps cool the planet by reflecting more solar radiation back out to space. With less of them, it causes a multiplier effect to the warming.

I didn't say the car runs on water AND emits water. One invention is a car that runs on hydrogen and emits water. Another is a car that runs on water and emits water vapor. Both have already been invented and suppressed by the government. Inventions like this have been erased and ignored on purpose. Again, trillions of dollars at stake.

Where again did I say a degree increase? I said a meaningless amount. And the Arctic ice is shrinking and Antarctic ice is growing...minor details though.

I’m the “uneducated” one, yet you broadcast your intelligence by saying that converting liquid water to water vapor somehow makes more sense than converting water to water...you can’t make this shite up, thermodynamics be damned...

HondoFS has to be smiling that you showed up...

The Antarctic ice is shrinking and breaking apart. How the fuck do you not know this? There are massive cracks forming in it and a chunk twice the size of Rhode island broke off of it two years ago.

You keep saying thermodynamics as if you know what the fuck you're talking about. Are you a scientist? I'm not. The point is the car could run on fucking water instead of gas. It had a water fuel cell. It split the water into pure oxygen and pure hydrogen and used both to power a combustion engine with the hydrogen being the combustible element and the oxygen being an oxidizer to make the internal combustion more powerful and the emission was water vapor. That's all I know. No car manufacturers have tried to replicate it since.

Antarctic ice coverage has been growing since satellites have been around to observe it back in 1979. Hit all-time records in 2014, had a pull-back, and is growing again. Simple, easy to measure fact. You can scream about land ice thickness (which has also been growing there despite HondoFS claims otherwise), but overall coverage for the reflection of solar energy has been growing.

Yes, I am...or at least was before I moved on to other things although I still get dragged back into it every now and again. Even have patents on greet technology. No shite you aren't...what you are claiming on water somehow powering vehicles is the lunatic fantasy of perpetual motion which breaks all kind of thermodynamic realities. I'd try to explain it to you but I'm guessing that would go over like a lead brick...

Or, you could say its on par with a lot of the nutjob claims over the last 50 years on climate...

Antarctic "Sea ice" is growing idiot. Not total ice in Antarctica. And it's very obvious why it's growing if your pee sized brain will sit and think about it for a minute.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses

Go fuck yourself.

Lol you fucking IDIOT!!

This is the first sentence of your article:

"A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers."

So snow that has accumulated over thousands of years is compacting on itself and making new ice deep underneath it at a faster rate than the surface ice is melting. BUT, it states right fucking there for your dumb ass to read: "increased losses from it's thinning glaciers".

We haven't had THOUSANDS OF YEARS of man made global warming. You would expect snow accumulation over ten thousand years to be massive and the subsequent deep ice creation beneath it to still be more than the surface ice that is melting.

But that's fucking irrelevant. You know why? Because the melting of the ice is INCREASING and will intercept the amount of deep ice created by the compacting snow. It's just a matter of time. That's not at all proof that global warming isn't happening. It confirms it. Eat shit.

Gwad said:

RaceBannon said:

Gwad said:

RaceBannon said:

Gwad said:

RaceBannon said:

Gwad said:

RaceBannon said:

Gwad said:

RaceBannon said:

Those 1830 weather stations were awesome

Race doesnt think temperature recording technology existed in 1830. I guess dementia has set in since he can't remember his child hood.

I clearly said that those 1830 weather stations were awesome

How many do you suppose there were world wide? In America? In the Antarctic?

Weather stations sucked 50 years ago

We have tree rings and ice cores though!

Your complete certain over that which can never be certain is pretty religious if you ask me. The need to demonize the "others" who don't share your belief.

Classic case IMO

What do you think recording air temperature is some kind of black magic? Its mercury dawg.

JFC

Dumb as a rock

Yes we have the ability to record temperature for all of the 6,000 years the earth has been around

Its faith

Dude we are talking about recording the temperature since the 1850s. Its pretty ez in 1850.... I thought you knew.

What was the temp when Adam and Eve left the garden?

Seems like a dementia question. I'm going to redirect your confusion to


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ef3a9nL_KI

My confusion?

The earth is billions of years old with a record of constant change.

99% unrecorded

To say a month is the hottest ever is about as fucking stupid as you can get.

What happened to logic in this country? Do you all think with your pussy now?

Its a religion. No doubt about it. Burn me at the stake as an apostate you fucking Spanish Inquisitor.

We are talking about temperature data from 1850 to now bro. The hottest ever since we started recording. Look at the charts and graphs dawg.

There wasn't much data of weather stations outside of North America available prior to the 1940's,so there's that.