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Independence Day!

Sledog
Sledog Member Posts: 37,651 Standard Supporter
edited July 2019 in Tug Tavern
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,881
    Happy 4th, Mall Cop.

    Best holiday of the year! Weather, food, no tree, no presents.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,651 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Happy 4th, Mall Cop.

    Best holiday of the year! Weather, food, no tree, no presents.

    Happy Independence day, Pretend Lawyer!
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,227 Founders Club
  • HustlinOwl
    HustlinOwl Member Posts: 953
    If you're anti-gun you don't get to celebrate the 4th? That's a new level of stupid.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,651 Standard Supporter

    If you're anti-gun you don't get to celebrate the 4th? That's a new level of stupid.

    Read for comprehension.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,881
    Speaking of fractured history, Daddy’s speech was a hoot.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,881

    HHusky said:

    Speaking of fractured history, Daddy’s speech was a hoot.

    Imagine listening to it
    Our seizing the airports during the battle of Fort McHenry is something you don’t get many opportunities to hear about.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club
    My fireworks today were made in China. Seems fitting since they invented them.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club
    Sledog said:


    Well, in 1775 , Sled, all long guns were "military grade". If we follow you're logic then regular citizen patriots should be allowed to own M-60's, grenade launchers, etc, etc.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    Sledog said:


    Well, in 1775 , Sled, all long guns were "military grade". If we follow you're logic then regular citizen patriots should be allowed to own M-60's, grenade launchers, etc, etc.
    Yes please.
    Nut jerb!!


  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    Sledog said:


    Well, in 1775 , Sled, all long guns were "military grade". If we follow you're logic then regular citizen patriots should be allowed to own M-60's, grenade launchers, etc, etc.
    Yes please.
    Nut jerb!!


    I am trying to keep the eye of the government firmly fixed on @PurpleBaze and off of me. He cannot be trusted, you know.




  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,299 Founders Club
    The gubmint is too preoccupied with the Messicans crossing the border to worry about an old towel-head like me.
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,299 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    The gubmint is too preoccupied with the Messicans crossing the border to worry about an old towel-head like me.

    You should start being more careful with your Tinder presence though. I found you easily.


    LOL! Yes, I really LOL'ed.

  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    The gubmint is too preoccupied with the Messicans crossing the border to worry about an old towel-head like me.

    You should start being more careful with your Tinder presence though. I found you easily.


    LOL! Yes, I really LOL'ed.

    #metoo
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,299 Founders Club
    And for the record, you fuckers, I didn't blow anything up yesterday.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,011

    Sledog said:


    Well, in 1775 , Sled, all long guns were "military grade". If we follow you're logic then regular citizen patriots should be allowed to own M-60's, grenade launchers, etc, etc.
    You're presuming *we* already don't....

  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,299 Founders Club
    @Swaye I just matched with her. We already set up a date for tomorrow. I wouldn't be surprised if we have explosive chemistry.


  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,651 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:


    Well, in 1775 , Sled, all long guns were "military grade". If we follow you're logic then regular citizen patriots should be allowed to own M-60's, grenade launchers, etc, etc.
    About a quarter million do own such things. There have been two crimes committed with legal machine guns since the inception of there registration and government control. Both were domestic violence IIRC.

    That is indeed what the founders meant in that the people should be armed similarly. Funny how people think there freedom of speech is protected on here but by your standard it's only protected when spoken in public or produced by pen or single plate printing press.

    The bill of rights says what it says and means what it says. It is not a living breathing document. Most of those signing it were carrying guns and always had arms at hand.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,651 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:


    Well, in 1775 , Sled, all long guns were "military grade". If we follow you're logic then regular citizen patriots should be allowed to own M-60's, grenade launchers, etc, etc.
    About a quarter million do own such things. There have been two crimes committed with legal machine guns since the inception of there registration and government control. Both were domestic violence IIRC.

    That is indeed what the founders meant in that the people should be armed similarly. Funny how people think there freedom of speech is protected on here but by your standard it's only protected when spoken in public or produced by pen or single plate printing press.

    The bill of rights says what it says and means what it says. It is not a living breathing document. Most of those signing it were carrying guns and always had arms at hand.
    A good read about the signing-

    https://newsmaven.io/americanminute/american-history/independence-day-why-is-it-so-important-4--1lEhbQUWxEfbZc74OLA/
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:


    Well, in 1775 , Sled, all long guns were "military grade". If we follow you're logic then regular citizen patriots should be allowed to own M-60's, grenade launchers, etc, etc.
    About a quarter million do own such things. There have been two crimes committed with legal machine guns since the inception of there registration and government control. Both were domestic violence IIRC.

    That is indeed what the founders meant in that the people should be armed similarly. Funny how people think there freedom of speech is protected on here but by your standard it's only protected when spoken in public or produced by pen or single plate printing press.

    The bill of rights says what it says and means what it says. It is not a living breathing document. Most of those signing it were carrying guns and always had arms at hand.
    Sled, none of us can say with certainty what the founder meant on guns. If they had specific intentions they would have been far more explicit, but instead they left it pretty vague- i.e., "well regulated" and "shall not be infringed" are kind of contradictory are they not? Firearm technology was basically unchanged in the 100 years before Lexington Green (e.g., "brown bess" was adopted in the late 1600's). It's impossible for us to sit here 228 years later after the Bill of Rights became law and guess how they would have felt about guns in 2019. And whether you like it or not, it is a "living, breathing" document, be it by Constitutional Amendment, or by the fact that the courts have evolved over time in how the interpret the darned thing. Maybe this is why they wanted an independent judiciary in the first place.

    All that being said, I don't care about your guns and am not looking to grab them.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,651 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:


    Well, in 1775 , Sled, all long guns were "military grade". If we follow you're logic then regular citizen patriots should be allowed to own M-60's, grenade launchers, etc, etc.
    About a quarter million do own such things. There have been two crimes committed with legal machine guns since the inception of there registration and government control. Both were domestic violence IIRC.

    That is indeed what the founders meant in that the people should be armed similarly. Funny how people think there freedom of speech is protected on here but by your standard it's only protected when spoken in public or produced by pen or single plate printing press.

    The bill of rights says what it says and means what it says. It is not a living breathing document. Most of those signing it were carrying guns and always had arms at hand.
    Sled, none of us can say with certainty what the founder meant on guns. If they had specific intentions they would have been far more explicit, but instead they left it pretty vague- i.e., "well regulated" and "shall not be infringed" are kind of contradictory are they not? Firearm technology was basically unchanged in the 100 years before Lexington Green (e.g., "brown bess" was adopted in the late 1600's). It's impossible for us to sit here 228 years later after the Bill of Rights became law and guess how they would have felt about guns in 2019. And whether you like it or not, it is a "living, breathing" document, be it by Constitutional Amendment, or by the fact that the courts have evolved over time in how the interpret the darned thing. Maybe this is why they wanted an independent judiciary in the first place.

    All that being said, I don't care about your guns and am not looking to grab them.
    I get ya. Law abiding gun owners aren't the problem and the inanimate object is not the problem. The problem is and always will be people. One needs to be able to deal with evil people and evil governments!
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:


    Well, in 1775 , Sled, all long guns were "military grade". If we follow you're logic then regular citizen patriots should be allowed to own M-60's, grenade launchers, etc, etc.
    About a quarter million do own such things. There have been two crimes committed with legal machine guns since the inception of there registration and government control. Both were domestic violence IIRC.

    That is indeed what the founders meant in that the people should be armed similarly. Funny how people think there freedom of speech is protected on here but by your standard it's only protected when spoken in public or produced by pen or single plate printing press.

    The bill of rights says what it says and means what it says. It is not a living breathing document. Most of those signing it were carrying guns and always had arms at hand.
    Sled, none of us can say with certainty what the founder meant on guns. If they had specific intentions they would have been far more explicit, but instead they left it pretty vague- i.e., "well regulated" and "shall not be infringed" are kind of contradictory are they not? Firearm technology was basically unchanged in the 100 years before Lexington Green (e.g., "brown bess" was adopted in the late 1600's). It's impossible for us to sit here 228 years later after the Bill of Rights became law and guess how they would have felt about guns in 2019. And whether you like it or not, it is a "living, breathing" document, be it by Constitutional Amendment, or by the fact that the courts have evolved over time in how the interpret the darned thing. Maybe this is why they wanted an independent judiciary in the first place.

    All that being said, I don't care about your guns and am not looking to grab them.
    I get ya. Law abiding gun owners aren't the problem and the inanimate object is not the problem. The problem is and always will be people. One needs to be able to deal with evil people and evil governments!
    Yes, for the most part "law abiding" gun owners aren't the problem. It's criminals and gun owners who were law abiding until they weren't. We aren't banning hand guns in the country - which are most of the gun deaths - so the gun control debate is just a waste and time and energy.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,651 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:


    Well, in 1775 , Sled, all long guns were "military grade". If we follow you're logic then regular citizen patriots should be allowed to own M-60's, grenade launchers, etc, etc.
    About a quarter million do own such things. There have been two crimes committed with legal machine guns since the inception of there registration and government control. Both were domestic violence IIRC.

    That is indeed what the founders meant in that the people should be armed similarly. Funny how people think there freedom of speech is protected on here but by your standard it's only protected when spoken in public or produced by pen or single plate printing press.

    The bill of rights says what it says and means what it says. It is not a living breathing document. Most of those signing it were carrying guns and always had arms at hand.
    Sled, none of us can say with certainty what the founder meant on guns. If they had specific intentions they would have been far more explicit, but instead they left it pretty vague- i.e., "well regulated" and "shall not be infringed" are kind of contradictory are they not? Firearm technology was basically unchanged in the 100 years before Lexington Green (e.g., "brown bess" was adopted in the late 1600's). It's impossible for us to sit here 228 years later after the Bill of Rights became law and guess how they would have felt about guns in 2019. And whether you like it or not, it is a "living, breathing" document, be it by Constitutional Amendment, or by the fact that the courts have evolved over time in how the interpret the darned thing. Maybe this is why they wanted an independent judiciary in the first place.

    All that being said, I don't care about your guns and am not looking to grab them.
    I get ya. Law abiding gun owners aren't the problem and the inanimate object is not the problem. The problem is and always will be people. One needs to be able to deal with evil people and evil governments!
    Yes, for the most part "law abiding" gun owners aren't the problem. It's criminals and gun owners who were law abiding until they weren't. We aren't banning hand guns in the country - which are most of the gun deaths - so the gun control debate is just a waste and time and energy.
    Mental health is the real issue. No one wants to tackle that one.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:


    Well, in 1775 , Sled, all long guns were "military grade". If we follow you're logic then regular citizen patriots should be allowed to own M-60's, grenade launchers, etc, etc.
    About a quarter million do own such things. There have been two crimes committed with legal machine guns since the inception of there registration and government control. Both were domestic violence IIRC.

    That is indeed what the founders meant in that the people should be armed similarly. Funny how people think there freedom of speech is protected on here but by your standard it's only protected when spoken in public or produced by pen or single plate printing press.

    The bill of rights says what it says and means what it says. It is not a living breathing document. Most of those signing it were carrying guns and always had arms at hand.
    Sled, none of us can say with certainty what the founder meant on guns. If they had specific intentions they would have been far more explicit, but instead they left it pretty vague- i.e., "well regulated" and "shall not be infringed" are kind of contradictory are they not? Firearm technology was basically unchanged in the 100 years before Lexington Green (e.g., "brown bess" was adopted in the late 1600's). It's impossible for us to sit here 228 years later after the Bill of Rights became law and guess how they would have felt about guns in 2019. And whether you like it or not, it is a "living, breathing" document, be it by Constitutional Amendment, or by the fact that the courts have evolved over time in how the interpret the darned thing. Maybe this is why they wanted an independent judiciary in the first place.

    All that being said, I don't care about your guns and am not looking to grab them.
    I get ya. Law abiding gun owners aren't the problem and the inanimate object is not the problem. The problem is and always will be people. One needs to be able to deal with evil people and evil governments!
    Yes, for the most part "law abiding" gun owners aren't the problem. It's criminals and gun owners who were law abiding until they weren't. We aren't banning hand guns in the country - which are most of the gun deaths - so the gun control debate is just a waste and time and energy.
    Mental health is the real issue. No one wants to tackle that one.
    There's definitely a profile for mass shooters.