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The Trouble With "Renewables"

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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,627 Founders Club
    YellowSnow said:

    Maff and physics are hard for greens.

    This is my major problem with most "environmentalists". There's very little past the emotional pandering rhetoric. Once you actually want to have a discussion around any of the policy details or how to actually execute a "greener" energy policy they've got very little to bring to the table. It's all just pie in the sky demands with no path to reality. The "Green New Deal" is laughably the best thing the majority has to advocate for.
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  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,224 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2019
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Maff and physics are hard for greens.

    This is my major problem with most "environmentalists". There's very little past the emotional pandering rhetoric. Once you actually want to have a discussion around any of the policy details or how to actually execute a "greener" energy policy they've got very little to bring to the table. It's all just pie in the sky demands with no path to reality. The "Green New Deal" is laughably the best thing the majority has to advocate for.
    I agree with you. Al Gore was a classic name caller and accuser of those who didn't play along with his dire predictions and demands for change. There was no constructive discussion, it was a belief we were all going to die in a decade or you were the enemy. Gore was a huge proponent of Ethanol. He put it right up there with wind and solar as a cure for the supposedly sick environment. Hundreds of billions of dollars wasted and a increase in the carbon footprint associated with production and transportation increases and here we are.

    I am all for alternative energy sources and making this place better (have you been to Los Angeles lately? The air pollution has come back with a vengeance) but threatening to put people in jail if they disagree with your dire predictions and methods for decreasing our footprint is ridiculous.

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,018 Founders Club
    CuntWaffle said:

    The New Green Deal solves all of this guys. It's even endorsed by Hondo.

    Kind of. You know as a starting point for a SERIOUS discussion. Just a guideline really


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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    The most efficient solar power generation remains hydro.
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,868 Standard Supporter
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    The most efficient solar power generation remains hydro.

    Salmon killer!
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,627 Founders Club
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    The most efficient solar power generation remains hydro.

    Sure, but it has an upper limit to how much we can install even IF you ignore all of the other environmental factors. Not every state is as abundant with rivers as Washington is.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    The most efficient solar power generation remains hydro.

    Sure, but it has an upper limit to how much we can install even IF you ignore all of the other environmental factors. Not every state is as abundant with rivers as Washington is.
    Every energy type has it's drawbacks and waste. With electric cars you have the batteries to dispose of. With Wind and Solar you have the huge land tracts that are needed and huge downtime. With LNG you have the delivery issues.

    And then you have the grand daddy of them all with Nuclear waste and potential meltdown due to earthquake or human error.

    There's no clean energy. It's simply the lesser of the evils.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,757 Standard Supporter
    salemcoog said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    The most efficient solar power generation remains hydro.

    Sure, but it has an upper limit to how much we can install even IF you ignore all of the other environmental factors. Not every state is as abundant with rivers as Washington is.
    Every energy type has it's drawbacks and waste. With electric cars you have the batteries to dispose of. With Wind and Solar you have the huge land tracts that are needed and huge downtime. With LNG you have the delivery issues.

    And then you have the grand daddy of them all with Nuclear waste and potential meltdown due to earthquake or human error.

    There's no clean energy. It's simply the lesser of the evils.
    How much do all those black super heated solar panels add to global warming. They get damn hot.

    Bird and insect murder another minus for wind and solar.
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